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Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 23:24
by ElJefe
I'm sure I saw an interview or something when GSP pretty much admitted that he was fortunate against Hendricks and that he realised he might have been past his prime. Fighters are often the last to accept that their best days are gone, surely better to stay away when you have those doubts.
Also, anyone seen the rumours about McGregor doing coke and banging hookers?

Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 00:18
by Lancenix
ElJefe wrote:I'm sure I saw an interview or something when GSP pretty much admitted that he was fortunate against Hendricks and that he realised he might have been past his prime. Fighters are often the last to accept that their best days are gone, surely better to stay away when you have those doubts.
Also, anyone seen the rumours about McGregor doing coke and banging hookers?

Wouldn't he have failed a drug test?? Banging hookers?? His business.
GSP had a great career. He was right about the PED's in the fight game and he got out on top. One of the best ever I do not see why he would want to come back. Dana has said no chance. I did see that he is good friends with Artur Beterbiev and has been in the gym with him.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 05:31
by Counter-puncher
ElJefe wrote:I'm sure I saw an interview or something when GSP pretty much admitted that he was fortunate against Hendricks and that he realised he might have been past his prime. Fighters are often the last to accept that their best days are gone, surely better to stay away when you have those doubts.
Also, anyone seen the rumours about McGregor doing coke and banging hookers?

*sighs and swoons* Conor is such a role model

Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 07:44
by Impractical Poster
ElJefe wrote:I'm sure I saw an interview or something when GSP pretty much admitted that he was fortunate against Hendricks and that he realised he might have been past his prime. Fighters are often the last to accept that their best days are gone, surely better to stay away when you have those doubts.
Also, anyone seen the rumours about McGregor doing coke and banging hookers?

Sounds like Conor's been hanging with Jon.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 07:48
by lefty
Counter-puncher wrote:ElJefe wrote:I'm sure I saw an interview or something when GSP pretty much admitted that he was fortunate against Hendricks and that he realised he might have been past his prime. Fighters are often the last to accept that their best days are gone, surely better to stay away when you have those doubts.
Also, anyone seen the rumours about McGregor doing coke and banging hookers?

*sighs and swoons* Conor is such a role model

Anyone that thinks that professional combat athletes should be role models is slightly naive or misguided IMO.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 07:49
by danamba7
ElJefe wrote:I'm sure I saw an interview or something when GSP pretty much admitted that he was fortunate against Hendricks and that he realised he might have been past his prime. Fighters are often the last to accept that their best days are gone, surely better to stay away when you have those doubts.
Also, anyone seen the rumours about McGregor doing coke and banging hookers?

Link?
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 07:51
by lefty
Impractical Poster wrote:ElJefe wrote:I'm sure I saw an interview or something when GSP pretty much admitted that he was fortunate against Hendricks and that he realised he might have been past his prime. Fighters are often the last to accept that their best days are gone, surely better to stay away when you have those doubts.
Also, anyone seen the rumours about McGregor doing coke and banging hookers?

Sounds like Conor's been hanging with Jon.
Talking about hanging with Jon- i'll tell you something i'd quite like to see although it's unlikely to happen. I'd like to see Weidman get some training in with Jones in prep for Rockhold. I know that Rockhold and Cormier are helping each other out for prep for the former two which makes complete sense with them being teammates at AKA. I think Weidman suffers to some extent in the same way that McGregor does- they both don't have the best training partners whereas the teams at AKA and Jackson-winklejohn are very strong and you have a lot of very good training partners. Just my take on it though.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 07:54
by danamba7
lefty wrote:Impractical Poster wrote:ElJefe wrote:I'm sure I saw an interview or something when GSP pretty much admitted that he was fortunate against Hendricks and that he realised he might have been past his prime. Fighters are often the last to accept that their best days are gone, surely better to stay away when you have those doubts.
Also, anyone seen the rumours about McGregor doing coke and banging hookers?

Sounds like Conor's been hanging with Jon.
Talking about hanging with Jon- i'll tell you something i'd quite like to see although it's unlikely to happen. I'd like to see Weidman get some training in with Jones in prep for Rockhold. I know that Rockhold and Cormier are helping each other out for prep for the former two which makes complete sense with them being teammates at AKA. I think Weidman suffers to some extent in the same way that McGregor does- they both don't have the best training partners whereas the teams at AKA and Jackson-winklejohn are very strong and you have a lot of very good training partners. Just my take on it though.
Yeah did you see them kind of team up at the unstoppable press conference? Common enemies and all that.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 07:56
by lefty
danamba7 wrote:lefty wrote:Impractical Poster wrote:
Sounds like Conor's been hanging with Jon.
Talking about hanging with Jon- i'll tell you something i'd quite like to see although it's unlikely to happen. I'd like to see Weidman get some training in with Jones in prep for Rockhold. I know that Rockhold and Cormier are helping each other out for prep for the former two which makes complete sense with them being teammates at AKA. I think Weidman suffers to some extent in the same way that McGregor does- they both don't have the best training partners whereas the teams at AKA and Jackson-winklejohn are very strong and you have a lot of very good training partners. Just my take on it though.
Yeah did you see them kind of team up at the unstoppable press conference? Common enemies and all that.
Yeah I saw that. It would be good to see that translate to some training time spent together. Then again, Weidman could go full heel by the end of camp and be out sniffing coke off of hookers tits

Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 07:59
by danamba7
lefty wrote:danamba7 wrote:lefty wrote:
Talking about hanging with Jon- i'll tell you something i'd quite like to see although it's unlikely to happen. I'd like to see Weidman get some training in with Jones in prep for Rockhold. I know that Rockhold and Cormier are helping each other out for prep for the former two which makes complete sense with them being teammates at AKA. I think Weidman suffers to some extent in the same way that McGregor does- they both don't have the best training partners whereas the teams at AKA and Jackson-winklejohn are very strong and you have a lot of very good training partners. Just my take on it though.
Yeah did you see them kind of team up at the unstoppable press conference? Common enemies and all that.
Yeah I saw that. It would be good to see that translate to some training time spent together. Then again, Weidman could go full heel by the end of camp and be out sniffing coke off of hookers tits

Yeah why not. I know I would if I was making hundreds of thousands!
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 08:02
by lefty
danamba7 wrote:lefty wrote:danamba7 wrote:
Yeah did you see them kind of team up at the unstoppable press conference? Common enemies and all that.
Yeah I saw that. It would be good to see that translate to some training time spent together. Then again, Weidman could go full heel by the end of camp and be out sniffing coke off of hookers tits

Yeah why not. I know I would if I was making hundreds of thousands!
Haha true. However it might not make for his best performance in a return against Rockhold though lol. One thing I would say though is that Weidman always looks depressed as hell to me when he's got his kids around him in the embedded shows which is a little sad. He gives off the vibe to some extent that he wishes he didnt have kids. Probably reading too much into that though.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 08:12
by danamba7
lefty wrote:danamba7 wrote:lefty wrote:
Yeah I saw that. It would be good to see that translate to some training time spent together. Then again, Weidman could go full heel by the end of camp and be out sniffing coke off of hookers tits

Yeah why not. I know I would if I was making hundreds of thousands!
Haha true. However it might not make for his best performance in a return against Rockhold though lol. One thing I would say though is that Weidman always looks depressed as hell to me when he's got his kids around him in the embedded shows which is a little sad. He gives off the vibe to some extent that he wishes he didnt have kids. Probably reading too much into that though.
Not as depressed as his lad gets when he leaves! Always starts balling!
Actually really looking forward to this fight even though the 1st fight was pretty one sided in the end. Interesting to see what Weidman can produce now he knows just how could Rockhold is. Surely he'll never attempt a half-hearted wheel kick ever again in his life!
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 10:10
by jujigatame
I don't really get what the UFC is doing with the WW division. Lawler/Thompson seemed like such an obvious fight to make, but they didn't make it. Unless GSP is coming back (which I strongly doubt) I don't know what they're planning on doing with Lawler's next defense.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 10:25
by lefty
jujigatame wrote:I don't really get what the UFC is doing with the WW division. Lawler/Thompson seemed like such an obvious fight to make, but they didn't make it. Unless GSP is coming back (which I strongly doubt) I don't know what they're planning on doing with Lawler's next defense.
Probably a Condit rematch.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 11:42
by ElJefe
Lancenix wrote:ElJefe wrote:I'm sure I saw an interview or something when GSP pretty much admitted that he was fortunate against Hendricks and that he realised he might have been past his prime. Fighters are often the last to accept that their best days are gone, surely better to stay away when you have those doubts.
Also, anyone seen the rumours about McGregor doing coke and banging hookers?

Wouldn't he have failed a drug test?? Banging hookers?? His business.
I'm not sure, probably. The story didn't look believable at all to be honest, just found it funny.
danamba7 wrote:ElJefe wrote:I'm sure I saw an interview or something when GSP pretty much admitted that he was fortunate against Hendricks and that he realised he might have been past his prime. Fighters are often the last to accept that their best days are gone, surely better to stay away when you have those doubts.
Also, anyone seen the rumours about McGregor doing coke and banging hookers?

Link?
I think it was posted on 4chan or one of those websites.
You'd think whoever took it would:
1) get a decent picture, maybe with some coke in it
and 2) sell his story for thousands, rather than put it on an internet message board
Also saw people suggest that it could have been from the pool party that was shown on TUF. As I said, I fully expect it to be complete BS, just made me laugh.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 11:49
by Counter-puncher
lefty wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:ElJefe wrote:I'm sure I saw an interview or something when GSP pretty much admitted that he was fortunate against Hendricks and that he realised he might have been past his prime. Fighters are often the last to accept that their best days are gone, surely better to stay away when you have those doubts.
Also, anyone seen the rumours about McGregor doing coke and banging hookers?

*sighs and swoons* Conor is such a role model

Anyone that thinks that professional combat athletes should be role models is slightly naive or misguided IMO.
indeed
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 11:52
by SNG
I wish I was doing Coke and banging hookers.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 12:04
by Impractical Poster
He was drinking coke and playing snooker.
The press will twist anything.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 12:05
by danamba7
SNG wrote:I wish I was doing Coke and banging hookers.
Tell me about it. I have to settle for dodgy £40 bags which make my gums numb and upset my stomach.
The cokes shite too.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 12:10
by palooka
danamba7 wrote:SNG wrote:I wish I was doing Coke and banging hookers.
Tell me about it. I have to settle for dodgy £40 bags which make my gums numb and upset my stomach.
The cokes shite too.

Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 17 Mar 2016, 08:12
by J
Deadendgeneration wrote:J wrote:Impractical Poster wrote:
I'm not saying he won't fight at WW again, but can you share a link stating that Nate will be fighting Lawler for the title? I've read where they have been thinking about it, but have not seen where it has been made.
Also, Silva fought heavier guys while he was MW champion when he would move up to LHW, than Conor did fighting Nate. Not to mention, successfully. Conor and Nate were basically the same weight when they fought. Conor has fought at the weight he fought at several times already against guys the same weight as Nate. This is not uncharted territory for him. It was technically a WW bout between two LWs.
All this talk about weight, but Conor really hasn't fought a fighter who has outweighed him by any significant margin. On the other hand, he has outweighed many of his FW opponents by pretty significant margins.
come on man, Nate was a much bigger guy, longer taller more reach..it was this not weight that turned the tide in round 2, that and his superior ground game.
as for people cutting weight part of the game dude. get over it.
The weight being 170 not making a difference is the point here. Diaz isn't a WW and Connor was set to fight at LW anyway. There was likely very little difference between their weights in the cage. Sure Diaz is taller/longer than Connor but he had that advantage over most lightweights. He also generally lacks in terms of physical strength compared to most lightweights. Being taller and having a longer reach does not equate to being bigger. Rangier for sure but not bigger. Would you say McGregor is bigger (or at least as big as) than any lightweight champion in UFC history? He's as tall as all except Pettis (wiki) or within an inch of any (Sherdog) and looked taller that RDA when they faced off. On top of that he has at least 2 inches of reach on all of them.
thanks for the reply and taking the time to respond, I think you are right in some respects that Conor does enjoy massive advantages over FW for sure and really his proper weight should be LW right now and he is still big there, however he did look small at the side of Diaz and it was along way to go up whether they weighed the same on fite night or not, I mean as a boxing fan its a bit like GGG going up to Andre ward right now...that's a big ask...is all...and you have to admire the balsl of the man to do so I feel. He just believed in himself a bit too much, who knows perhaps this will be the making of the man...time will tell.
People if they can cut the weight will do it til one day it gets too much and the advantages they had simply end up being the thing that causes them to gas and run out of steam in the ring and most likely defeat...I would say beware fighting at FW these days Mr Mac...LW is where you probably need to be...as for sizes and dimensions we are all very different in our builds, height how we carry weight how we age and how genetically we are able to either remain a similar weight or not...so all I can do is speak as I see it mate

to make too many comparisons on individuals can be a bit flawed as we are all unique.
jah rastafaari

Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 17 Mar 2016, 08:18
by J
Lancenix wrote:Tanzio wrote:Lancenix wrote:
Not even close.
We will see. If I'm right I won't be trumpeting it like a fourth grader for a week though, like you, airhead.
Did they even have 4th grade when you went to school??
mate, bit of a word of advice and this might be a bit hypocrictical as I used to wanna diss/fight everyone on here too years back at the slightest things said about..wait for it Ricky hatton....,
I did and still do love Ricky but role model he aint but then again nor am I...anyway back to my point, you seem to know a bit about MMA but if you constantly are threatening others and putting them down no one will benefit form that knowledge nor listen to your point, its supposed to be fun and sometimes educational to post on here..so maybe think about your communication style might help you to get the most out of posting here rather than getting involved in pointless pissing competitions..
just trying to help but if you would rather tell me to go eff myself then fair enough...up to you!

Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 17 Mar 2016, 08:39
by Deadendgeneration
J wrote:Deadendgeneration wrote:J wrote:
come on man, Nate was a much bigger guy, longer taller more reach..it was this not weight that turned the tide in round 2, that and his superior ground game.
as for people cutting weight part of the game dude. get over it.
The weight being 170 not making a difference is the point here. Diaz isn't a WW and Connor was set to fight at LW anyway. There was likely very little difference between their weights in the cage. Sure Diaz is taller/longer than Connor but he had that advantage over most lightweights. He also generally lacks in terms of physical strength compared to most lightweights. Being taller and having a longer reach does not equate to being bigger. Rangier for sure but not bigger. Would you say McGregor is bigger (or at least as big as) than any lightweight champion in UFC history? He's as tall as all except Pettis (wiki) or within an inch of any (Sherdog) and looked taller that RDA when they faced off. On top of that he has at least 2 inches of reach on all of them.
thanks for the reply and taking the time to respond, I think you are right in some respects that Conor does enjoy massive advantages over FW for sure and really his proper weight should be LW right now and he is still big there, however he did look small at the side of Diaz and it was along way to go up whether they weighed the same on fite night or not, I mean as a boxing fan its a bit like GGG going up to Andre ward right now...that's a big ask...is all...and you have to admire the balsl of the man to do so I feel. He just believed in himself a bit too much, who knows perhaps this will be the making of the man...time will tell.
People if they can cut the weight will do it til one day it gets too much and the advantages they had simply end up being the thing that causes them to gas and run out of steam in the ring and most likely defeat...I would say beware fighting at FW these days Mr Mac...LW is where you probably need to be...as for sizes and dimensions we are all very different in our builds, height how we carry weight how we age and how genetically we are able to either remain a similar weight or not...so all I can do is speak as I see it mate

to make too many comparisons on individuals can be a bit flawed as we are all unique.
jah rastafaari

Very good post. And I don't really disagree with anything you said perhaps apart from the GGG/Ward comparison as they're about 10 pounds apart on fight night. I was going to suggest despite the fact that he holds a middleweight trinket, Canelo/GGG seems a bit more apt. They're pretty similar weight come fight night, Canelo is shorter and holds a big weight advantage over everyone at his current weight. However that doesn't seem a great example as apparently Canelo has a 1/2-1 inch reach advantage. That's very surprising for me as GGG has a miles better jab.
Anyway analogies aside that was a well thought out and mature post.
I'll check the odds in his next fight if it's at FW as I think he gained a bit of bulk for the Diaz fight and the cut back down is going to be very hard on him.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 17 Mar 2016, 12:41
by Impractical Poster
Even at LW, I'd say Conor is on the bigger side of most of the division.
BTW, you all hear that Thiago Alves plans on fighting at 155 now...

IIRC, he was coming into his WW bouts at about 200.
Re: MMA thread?
Posted: 17 Mar 2016, 12:45
by jujigatame
Good lord. I always thought Alves was one of the bigger WWs, but if Gleison Tibau can regularly make 155, I guess Alves can too.