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Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 06 Sep 2020, 09:15
by Coco
I read that this fella did it as a private giggle between mates then someone went and stuck it online to stitch him up!
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 06 Sep 2020, 12:16
by tonyevs
mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 05:00
tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 04:06
As a keen and clearly superb runner for over 30yrs I imagine there is a long list of results you can refer to .. Parkrun being so popular nowadays just about every half decent club or occasion runner has completed the local ones.
My dad does his own. It’s well documented his times in North Yorkshire. He stopped competing when he got to 31. He classes park runners as “joggers”.
Maybe you could point us towards one or two of these well documented times of your dads?
Not that I`m suggesting your dad has maybe exaggerated his running times a little bit ... or even for one minute your telling us anything but the truth; but there are certain people who are not as truthful as you and I, and just being able to verify your dads claim will keep those sceptical readers on here quiet.
Out of interest to get some perspective. The fastest 5k Parkrun time is apparently 13:48 by the then 20 year old British professional triathlete Alex Yee.
The world record for fastest woman to run a Parkrun 5k was the 28 yr old 2018 British 10,000m champion Charlotte Arter with a time of 15:49 .. and demonstrates how fast a runner your dad was to have done a 31 minute 10k when he was in his 40`s ... so whilst anybody who regularly runs 10k would not consider those times to be by `joggers` ... its understandable why you dad would do so.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 06 Sep 2020, 12:38
by mickey1975
He’s done triathlons, even a quadrathon, where two people died so it got banned. 2 miles swimming, 50k race walk, 100 miles bike, marathon.
I’m not going to gain anything lying about his achievements or put his name up on here. He was 47 when he got under 32 minutes.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 06 Sep 2020, 12:42
by mickey1975
Elite line London marathon, elite line great north run, winner of Yorkshire summer league, easingwold half marathon, three A’s champion race walker. International race walker.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 06 Sep 2020, 12:46
by Teddy's Toupee
tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 12:16
mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 05:00
tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 04:06
As a keen and clearly superb runner for over 30yrs I imagine there is a long list of results you can refer to .. Parkrun being so popular nowadays just about every half decent club or occasion runner has completed the local ones.
My dad does his own. It’s well documented his times in North Yorkshire. He stopped competing when he got to 31. He classes park runners as “joggers”.
Maybe you could point us towards one or two of these well documented times of your dads?
Not that I`m suggesting your dad has maybe exaggerated his running times a little bit ... or even for one minute your telling us anything but the truth; but there are certain people who are not as truthful as you and I, and just being able to verify your dads claim will keep those sceptical readers on here quiet.
Out of interest to get some perspective. The fastest 5k Parkrun time is apparently 13:48 by the then 20 year old British professional triathlete Alex Yee.
The world record for fastest woman to run a Parkrun 5k was the 28 yr old 2018 British 10,000m champion Charlotte Arter with a time of 15:49 .. and demonstrates how fast a runner your dad was to have done a 31 minute 10k when he was in his 40`s ... so whilst anybody who regularly runs 10k would not consider those times to be by `joggers` ... its understandable why you dad would do so.
The best of luck with getting any answers to your questions, tonyevs. I'm still waiting for him to tell me when Frank Grant told him Pigg Wilson's sparring story wasn't true.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 06 Sep 2020, 14:44
by mickey1975
Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 12:46
tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 12:16
mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 05:00
My dad does his own. It’s well documented his times in North Yorkshire. He stopped competing when he got to 31. He classes park runners as “joggers”.
Maybe you could point us towards one or two of these well documented times of your dads?
Not that I`m suggesting your dad has maybe exaggerated his running times a little bit ... or even for one minute your telling us anything but the truth; but there are certain people who are not as truthful as you and I, and just being able to verify your dads claim will keep those sceptical readers on here quiet.
Out of interest to get some perspective. The fastest 5k Parkrun time is apparently 13:48 by the then 20 year old British professional triathlete Alex Yee.
The world record for fastest woman to run a Parkrun 5k was the 28 yr old 2018 British 10,000m champion Charlotte Arter with a time of 15:49 .. and demonstrates how fast a runner your dad was to have done a 31 minute 10k when he was in his 40`s ... so whilst anybody who regularly runs 10k would not consider those times to be by `joggers` ... its understandable why you dad would do so.
The best of luck with getting any answers to your questions, tonyevs. I'm still waiting for him to tell me when Frank Grant told him Pigg Wilson's sparring story wasn't true.
Even though I told you about two years ago at Harehills labour club. Club show.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 06 Sep 2020, 16:22
by Teddy's Toupee
mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 14:44
Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 12:46
tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 12:16
Maybe you could point us towards one or two of these well documented times of your dads?
Not that I`m suggesting your dad has maybe exaggerated his running times a little bit ... or even for one minute your telling us anything but the truth; but there are certain people who are not as truthful as you and I, and just being able to verify your dads claim will keep those sceptical readers on here quiet.
Out of interest to get some perspective. The fastest 5k Parkrun time is apparently 13:48 by the then 20 year old British professional triathlete Alex Yee.
The world record for fastest woman to run a Parkrun 5k was the 28 yr old 2018 British 10,000m champion Charlotte Arter with a time of 15:49 .. and demonstrates how fast a runner your dad was to have done a 31 minute 10k when he was in his 40`s ... so whilst anybody who regularly runs 10k would not consider those times to be by `joggers` ... its understandable why you dad would do so.
The best of luck with getting any answers to your questions, tonyevs. I'm still waiting for him to tell me when Frank Grant told him Pigg Wilson's sparring story wasn't true.
Even though I told you about two years ago at Harehills labour club. Club show.
You may have told me where, but not when.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 04:53
by Teddy's Toupee
Cyclops wrote: ↑16 Apr 2020, 17:35
JMac wrote: ↑16 Apr 2020, 17:09
In 2006 at the U-19 world championships in Morocco, Tyson was on the English team. Big John was there with him. I was a R/J. We were there for about 10 days. I spoke with both Fury's a lot during that time. I found them both very nice to talk to. Tyson was pretty quite for the most part. John told me some interesting stories about bare knuckle fights. He said he didn't like pro boxing for himself as there were too many rules. I got a picture of me and him in a boxing pose and one were I'm standing next to Tyson with my arm straight up over my head just reaching Tyson's chin. I'm like 5' 9". John is a big dude too. I've misplaced the pictures and have been looking for them.
See, you've got a proper story that's cool and if true and Tyson fulfils his potential and retires as one of the heavyweight greats, then you're part of history. Kudos.
Currently the tension in this thread comes from some established posters essentially calling Micky, another established posters, a liar. Who knows if he'll be vindicated, or humiliated?
It's terribly exciting.
Mickey1975 claimed in this thread Frank Grant told him the sparring story was false at a show in Leeds, but never said when the show happened. He now says the show was two years ago. If you look at the "John Fury" thread you'll see he still believed the sparring story was true as late as November 2019. Was finding out worth the wait?
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 05:19
by coneye
Does it matter ,
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 05:32
by Teddy's Toupee
coneye wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 05:19
Does it matter ,
No.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 05:50
by coneye
Its what makes some threads interesting ,, when one or two are like dogs with a bone , over things that don't matter
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 06:13
by Teddy's Toupee
coneye wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 05:50
Its what makes some threads interesting ,, when one or two are like dogs with a bone , over things that don't matter
No one expects the moon on a stick, but it would be nice to think most of us post comments in good faith on here.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 06:16
by mickey1975
Frank Grant told me it was untrue. He also told Terry Dooley! What is the problem?
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 07:25
by Wee Tommy
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 06:16
Frank Grant told me it was untrue. He also told Terry Dooley! What is the problem?
Have you two had your ‘spar’ yet? Seems overdue.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 07:33
by mickey1975
Wee Tommy wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 07:25
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 06:16
Frank Grant told me it was untrue. He also told Terry Dooley! What is the problem?
Have you two had your ‘spar’ yet? Seems overdue.
No, got no idea what his problem is with me.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 07:48
by polecateddy
tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 12:16
mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 05:00
tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Sep 2020, 04:06
As a keen and clearly superb runner for over 30yrs I imagine there is a long list of results you can refer to .. Parkrun being so popular nowadays just about every half decent club or occasion runner has completed the local ones.
My dad does his own. It’s well documented his times in North Yorkshire. He stopped competing when he got to 31. He classes park runners as “joggers”.
Maybe you could point us towards one or two of these well documented times of your dads?
Not that I`m suggesting your dad has maybe exaggerated his running times a little bit ... or even for one minute your telling us anything but the truth; but there are certain people who are not as truthful as you and I, and just being able to verify your dads claim will keep those sceptical readers on here quiet.
Out of interest to get some perspective. The fastest 5k Parkrun time is apparently 13:48 by the then 20 year old British professional triathlete Alex Yee.
The world record for fastest woman to run a Parkrun 5k was the 28 yr old 2018 British 10,000m champion Charlotte Arter with a time of 15:49 .. and demonstrates how fast a runner your dad was to have done a 31 minute 10k when he was in his 40`s ... so whilst anybody who regularly runs 10k would not consider those times to be by `joggers` ... its understandable why you dad would do so.
31 minutes is a very respectable time - top club runner standard. The best database for English athletics and road race performances is Power of 10, which I think holds comprehensive records going back to at least 2006;
https://thepowerof10.info/
I’d be quite surprised if Big John could finish in the top ten of the under 55’s in his local Lancaster 3 Bridges 10km race, which is more of a decent organised fun run than a serious club competition. I managed 38 minutes there many years ago. The results from last year;
http://www.lancasterathletics.co.uk/rac ... 8b305036b2
Maybe what he means is that he’s the fittest over 50 person who does boxing training in a gym? It seems quite hard in a way to measure heavyweight fitness, as to be fair in running, swimming and cycling the extra weight is just a handicap.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 07:57
by mickey1975
No, I know exactly what I mean. He’s never been in any gym, boxing or otherwise, he’s international standard race walker and top club runner. I don’t know how many times I can say it!
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 08:02
by mickey1975
And my dad could do 42 walking.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 08:13
by Teddy's Toupee
Wee Tommy wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 07:25
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 06:16
Frank Grant told me it was untrue. He also told Terry Dooley! What is the problem?
Have you two had your ‘spar’ yet? Seems overdue.
According to the latest guidlines I could find sparring is still prohibited. As soon as it isn't mickey1975 can expect a PM from me.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 08:57
by mickey1975
Looking forward to it.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 09:25
by Teddy's Toupee
I'm looking foward to seeing if mickey1975 is the 6'4" 17 stone adonis he claims to be, or the 5'9" red-faced, overweight alcholic Pigg Wilson says he is. I'll take it easier on him if he's the latter.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 09:32
by mickey1975
Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 09:25
I'm looking foward to seeing if mickey1975 is the 6'4" 17 stone adonis he claims to be, or the 5'9" red-faced, overweight alcholic Pigg Wilson says he is. I'll take it easier on him if he's the latter.
No problem. Maybe 19st though,
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 09:41
by Deserter
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 07:57
No, I know exactly what I mean. He’s never been in any gym, boxing or otherwise, he’s international standard race walker and top club runner. I don’t know how many times I can say it!
He's talking about John Fury Mickey, not your dad
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 09:50
by Teddy's Toupee
No problem at all.
Re: Big John Fury called out
Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 09:51
by mickey1975
Deserter wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 09:41
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 07:57
No, I know exactly what I mean. He’s never been in any gym, boxing or otherwise, he’s international standard race walker and top club runner. I don’t know how many times I can say it!
He's talking about John Fury Mickey, not your dad
He’s wearing me out already! Old Rob Harper!