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Re: Napoles & Monzon . . .

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 14:28
by Randyman
bennie wrote:
Randyman wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Granberry . . .

When Napoles fought Monzon, he was at the tail end of a very long career. In addition to that, what people fail to realize concerning Napoles, is that he really was never more than a "blown-up" natural lightweight. I realize that with age, men grow into heavier weight classes, but Napoles ideal weight would have put him at Jr. Welter.

Carlos Monzon was not only a very big middleweight, he was one of the greatest ever, certainly superior to most who have held the title since, save Hagler. He came up at a time when we still had great middleweights (no disrespect to Hopkins, or Pavlik, etc. but they don't really rate as championship quality in comparison to past 160lb. champs.

Monzon was too big, too young, and combined with his own exceptional talent and power, just too much for an aging welterweight, even one as great as Jose Napoles.

Personlly, what I think would be a great fantasy match would be a prime Jose Napoles vs. the Roberto Duran that whipped Leonard in their first fight.

As Duran said, his first fight with Leonard was not his toughest. Duran has always credited some of his earliest opponents as the toughest he ever faced. Many of the boxers Duran claims gave him his toughest fights were names that can be find as KO victims of Napoles. Today there is a great mutual respect between these two great champions.

-Rick Farris
Roberto Duran is my favorite fighter. I have gone over many 'What ifs" with Duran against so many fighters, including Aaron Pryor. For some reason a fight with Napoles never entered my mind. It has all the potential for being a classic. I had to chuckle a little when I read your last sentence. You know Duran has mellowed through the years when you can say with a straight face Duran has mutual respect..... Even the mighty Duran had to age. Man I loved that guy. Even with all his quirks and faults and "No mas".

I agree with you about the middleweights Rick. No disrespect to Hopkins and any other recent middleweight champ but Hagler was the last great champ of that storied division. Leonard beat him (I thought Hagler won) but he didn't do enough as a middleweight to be considered one of the greatest. My opinion.
Duran had a chance to fight Pryor after "No Mas", according to the book Hands of Stone, when Pryor was a light-welter. Duran would have prevailed on power alone (Pryor was hittable with the right hand) but he did the right thing in easing his way back.
Bennie, I remember Alexis Arguello landing the right hands on Pryor. He had no problem landing. Anyone else would have went down. Duran certainly had a better arsenal overall than Pryor. Weight not withstanding. I would love to see the Duran that beat Ray Leonard in Montreal, fight the Aaron Pryor that beat Arguello in their first fight. Because Pryor's career was cut short from drugs, his career is somewhat of an enigma. One wonder's just how good he might have been. Still I think Duran was the more complete fighter. By the way, too bad we never saw Duran vs Arguello.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 17:46
by raylawpc
Anyone notice how dull it gets on this thread when Frank's not around? . . . :wink: Three hours between this post and the last one.

Geez, I wish Connie wouldn't let him out of the house to go to Hollywood, of all places. No telling when he'll be back . . .

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 18:28
by Chuck1052
I liked Alexis Arguello as a fighter, but it is my feeling that he would be made-to-order for Roberto Duran.

In regards to Art Hafey, I also saw him fight Danny "Little Red" Lopez in person at the Forum in Inglewood. As noted before, Hafey took a brutal beating, but kept on fighting to the end and lande a number of telling shots. However, I often wonder why Hafey's corner didn't make a meaningful effort to get the bout stopped sooner.

- Chuck Johnston

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 19:37
by Expug
Randyman wrote:Hey Pug, here's a link to a pretty good webpage on Irish American Boxers. http://www.aoh61.com/boxing.htm

Randy
Thanks alot Randy.
Great reading there.
Its funny that "Irish" Bob Murphys real name was Ed O'Connelly.
Fighters in years past used to change there name to sound Irish.
O.Connelly is as Irish a name as a person could possibly have.
Yet, he changed it to another Irish name.
He must have been one of a kind. :D

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 19:42
by Expug
bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Ingo always left his best fight for the ring, and that included a token warm-up before the fight. He used to chuckle at fighters warming-up furiously and bouncing around in the ring during the introductions. Of course, he could afford to chuckle with a right hand like his.
Ingo broke a lot of hearts - male and female - when he destroyed Patterson. The ladies loved him, of course, but the fighters hated him for swanning around with a stunning girlfriend and barely raising a sweat in training. For generations, fighters had sweated blood in training and lived like monks. They expected to see Patterson win easily. Seven knockdowns later...
There was always one thing about Ingo that I wondered about.
In the Olympics, he was disqualified for not trying in the Gold Medal match against American Ed Sanders.I read that he didnt even get his Silver Medal until thirty years later.
I wonder how much this bothered Ingo.
He went on to big things obviously, but that Olympic result would really bother me.
Does anyone know anything about that fight?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 20:08
by Randyman
Chuck1052 wrote:I liked Alexis Arguello as a fighter, but it is my feeling that he would be made-to-order for Roberto Duran.

In regards to Art Hafey, I also saw him fight Danny "Little Red" Lopez in person at the Forum in Inglewood. As noted before, Hafey took a brutal beating, but kept on fighting to the end and lande a number of telling shots. However, I often wonder why Hafey's corner didn't make a meaningful effort to get the bout stopped sooner.

- Chuck Johnston
I have to agree with you Chuck. Ultimately Duran would have been to much for Arguello but I do think it would have been an interesting fight.

As for Hafey's corner not throwing in the towel, that as they say, is the million dollar question. They couldn't have been surprised. Lopez was on a roll at the time, having stopped his last six opponents. They had to be aware of their guy's limitations. Here's a link to an article/interview of Hafey by Dan Hanley that I found today on Cyberzone. I have no doubt you have already read it but someone else may find it interesting. http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/w0505-hanley.html

Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 20:15
by Randyman
Expug wrote:
Randyman wrote:Hey Pug, here's a link to a pretty good webpage on Irish American Boxers. http://www.aoh61.com/boxing.htm

Randy
Thanks alot Randy.
Great reading there.
Its funny that "Irish" Bob Murphys real name was Ed O'Connelly.
Fighters in years past used to change there name to sound Irish.
O.Connelly is as Irish a name as a person could possibly have.
Yet, he changed it to another Irish name.
He must have been one of a kind. :D
My guess is Murphy rolls off the tongue much easier than O'Connelly. Also, as Irish as O'Connelly is, the name Murphy really evokes the Macho Irish image of a hard fighting, hard drinking, hard living man, but I'm just guessing. Possibly he may not have wanted his mother to know that he was fighting (how's that for macho?). I can see no other reason.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 21:33
by dagosd2000
Randyman wrote:
Expug wrote:
Randyman wrote:Hey Pug, here's a link to a pretty good webpage on Irish American Boxers. http://www.aoh61.com/boxing.htm

Randy
Thanks alot Randy.
Great reading there.
Its funny that "Irish" Bob Murphys real name was Ed O'Connelly.
Fighters in years past used to change there name to sound Irish.
O.Connelly is as Irish a name as a person could possibly have.
Yet, he changed it to another Irish name.
He must have been one of a kind. :D
My guess is Murphy rolls off the tongue much easier than O'Connelly. Also, as Irish as O'Connelly is, the name Murphy really evokes the Macho Irish image of a hard fighting, hard drinking, hard living man, but I'm just guessing. Possibly he may not have wanted his mother to know that he was fighting (how's that for macho?). I can see no other reason.

Randy
If you caught some back stuff of mine,you'll see that when Murphy got out of the Navy he was handled in the amateaurs by George Radovich. George owned the Arizona Cafe in Ocean Beach here in San Diego. George played for the AFC Rams, and between Murphy and guys like Waterfirld,Skeets Quinlan,Crazy Legs Hirsch,Van Brocklin, and Murphy's pro manager Travis Hatfield...well put it this way,Marshall Dillon would have rather handled all the beefs in Dodge City than try to quiet down the Arizona when those aformentioned boys were in there.

Now in that hey day,I was still watching Pinky Lee on television while those jovial fellows were gracing the streets of Tijuana sfter closing down the Arizona Cafe. So my knowlrge of those escapades came from George,Tony Panza(who ran the bowling alley),Ross Miller,Marsh Malcolm,and the usual gang of local terrorists.

Here's what George told me about how Murphy changed his name. Murphy was plannin' on a fightin' career and so it was decided he neede a "nickname". well Murphy chose "Irish".No,he wasn't drunk when he picked that moniker. That was a given. Well the way George told it to me, everyone is tryin' to break all World records for consuming alcohol that evening. Everybody is toasting the next Champion of the World. "Irish" Bob O' Connely. Now i'm not real good when it comes to linguistics,but after 70 or so beers, try saying"Irish" Bob O'Connely without hurting yourself. Around midnight,the way George told it to me, "Irish" shouts out ,"F---k it.I'm changing it to Murphy."

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 21:41
by kikibalt
raylawpc wrote:Anyone notice how dull it gets on this thread when Frank's not around? . . . :wink: Three hours between this post and the last one.

Geez, I wish Connie wouldn't let him out of the house to go to Hollywood, of all places. No telling when he'll be back . . .
Tom,

I went to Hollywood to hang out with, to use your own words, some "old coots".
It was a Golden State Boxing Association luncheon, it was a small group, but we had fun, don't know if you or the rest of the guys remember Paul Andrew, a HW from the !950's and 60's who fought often on T.V. back then, anyway, he was there and I'm going to talk to Don Fraser about getting him in the CBHOF, he fought top fighters in his career, we'll see.....

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 21:47
by dagosd2000
Hey randy

Real qiuck with this repeater. One night Murphy and Hatfield are in the Arizona trying to raze the building,when Radovich tells the two that there's a party on Santa Monica with all kids of free booze and whores. As added incentive,Radovich says it's a Mexican party. Now the boys can fight after f----n'. Or visa versus. Well Santa Monica is the street where the Arizona is on. Murphy and Hatfield leave. They're forgotten. Probably in jail. George is waitng for the bail bondsman's call. Well 2 hours later the phone rings. It's Murphy. Him and Hatfield are drivin' around Santa Monica, CALIFORNIA. They want directions to the party.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 22:00
by kikibalt
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Manuel Ortiz

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 22:25
by dagosd2000
raylawpc wrote:Anyone notice how dull it gets on this thread when Frank's not around? . . . :wink: Three hours between this post and the last one.

Geez, I wish Connie wouldn't let him out of the house to go to Hollywood, of all places. No telling when he'll be back . . .
Gee Tom
I'll just speak for myself.I apologize if I made things dull for you. I'll try harder next time.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 23:41
by Expug
Rog, love the story of how Murphy changed his name.
He had to have been a helluva lot of fun to be around.
Of course you have to be a person who likes his type of humor.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 03:20
by Rick Farris
Expug wrote:
bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Ingo always left his best fight for the ring, and that included a token warm-up before the fight. He used to chuckle at fighters warming-up furiously and bouncing around in the ring during the introductions. Of course, he could afford to chuckle with a right hand like his.
Ingo broke a lot of hearts - male and female - when he destroyed Patterson. The ladies loved him, of course, but the fighters hated him for swanning around with a stunning girlfriend and barely raising a sweat in training. For generations, fighters had sweated blood in training and lived like monks. They expected to see Patterson win easily. Seven knockdowns later...
There was always one thing about Ingo that I wondered about.
In the Olympics, he was disqualified for not trying in the Gold Medal match against American Ed Sanders.I read that he didnt even get his Silver Medal until thirty years later.
I wonder how much this bothered Ingo.
He went on to big things obviously, but that Olympic result would really bother me.
Does anyone know anything about that fight?

Pug . . . Yes, I can tell you about that bout, and also about the late Ed Sanders. My information comes from close to home, as my first mgr./trainer, Johnny Flores, worked with Sanders, who was an L.A. guy. Also, I have info on Sanders Gold Medal bout with Ingo at the 1952 Olympic Games in Helsinki, Finland. You see Ingomar Johannson's DQ came from more than just "not trying". The future heavyweight champ returned to Sweden a disgrace, after literally running out of the ring in his Olympic final bout with Sanders. Ingo, was compeletely intimidated by Sanders, refused to throw a punch, and then bolted from the ring during the match. This can be validated in Floyd Patterson's biography "Victory Over Myself", which was published shortly before Floyd lost the heavyweight title to Sonny Liston.

The U.S.A. had a strong Olympic team in '52, with Patterson winning gold in the middleweight division and Ohio's Davey Moore (future feather champ) taking gold in the bantam division. Of course, Ed Sanders won the gold also. Patterson and Moore, of course, would win world titles as pros (with Moore losing his title and life to Sugar Ramos in a fatal title defense in L.A. in '63). In 1954, after several pro bouts in the Boston area, Sanders, like Moore, would lose his life in the ring. After a bad beating, Sanders lapsed into a coma and died.

It's hard to imagine the man who floored Patterson so many times with his "Toonder & Lightning" right hand, running out of the ring for any reason, especially with Olympic Gold on the line. As a kid, I trained at Johnny Flores Gym in the San Fernanado Valley. On the wall, Joihnny had several dozen pics from his post WW2 era history in L.A. boxing. In one 8x10 B&W photo, Flores is standing beside a scale weighing Sanders at the CYO Gym in L.A. Perhaps Frank remembers Sanders, and can shed more light on the late Olympic Heavyweight Gold Medalist from L.A. (to my knowledge, the only L.A. amateur heavyweight to win Olympic Gold).

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 03:30
by Rick Farris
Chuck1052 wrote:I liked Alexis Arguello as a fighter, but it is my feeling that he would be made-to-order for Roberto Duran.

In regards to Art Hafey, I also saw him fight Danny "Little Red" Lopez in person at the Forum in Inglewood. As noted before, Hafey took a brutal beating, but kept on fighting to the end and lande a number of telling shots. However, I often wonder why Hafey's corner didn't make a meaningful effort to get the bout stopped sooner.

- Chuck Johnston

Chuck, I agree with you 100% about Duran and Arguello. The same holds true for Duran vs. J.C. Chavez. As great a lightweight as Chavez was, his ability to take a punch and straight forward style would have led him to visiting the canvas more than once before Roberto Duran ruined him for good. Duran, for many of his title defenses, did not train properly, although he looked like he had. Guys like the Viruet bros., Lampkin, Fernandez, etc. met a great champ who was only in basicly good condition. Even in Duran's first match with DeJesus, his first pro loss, Duran was outta shape. Same with all who faced a 135lb. Roberto in non-title fights. This would drive Ray Arcel crazy! You know, however, that for a match with Nicaraqua's Arguello, or Mexico's Chavez, Duran would have been ready. Lucky for J.C. Chavez he missed Duran by a few years at 135lbs. My opinion only, of course.

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 03:42
by Rick Farris
Chuck1052 wrote:I liked Alexis Arguello as a fighter, but it is my feeling that he would be made-to-order for Roberto Duran.

In regards to Art Hafey, I also saw him fight Danny "Little Red" Lopez in person at the Forum in Inglewood. As noted before, Hafey took a brutal beating, but kept on fighting to the end and lande a number of telling shots. However, I often wonder why Hafey's corner didn't make a meaningful effort to get the bout stopped sooner.

- Chuck Johnston
Much has been revealed about Hafey's association with Burke Emory. Although I don't believe that Hafey would have stood a chance of ever beating Danny Lopez, or Arguello, or a Chacon, had they fought, in the end, Burke Emory did not act in Art Hafey's best interest. Emory knew of Art's medical condition, and in the best interest of his own financial gain, sold out Art (who'd lost partial vision in one eye after his war with David Sotelo). Hafey wasn't the best featherweight in the world in an era with many exceptional 126l pounders, but he could be a nightmare for any one of them on the right night. He caught Olivares off guard and went home with a KO victory over Ruben. Randy may know that Mel Epstein always liked Burke Emory, and had promoted several of the Canadian heavyweight's pro bouts up in the Pacific North West, but when it was obvious Hafey wasn't going to ever win a title, Emory cashed him out at great risk to the fighter's health. It just makes Emory no better or worse than 99% of men who handle pro boxers. Human beings are expendable when a buck is at stake. I was about a dozen rows from ringside the night Hafey fought Lopez. Randy and Chuck Johnston were in the house, and I'm sure Frank was too. I watched Limon destroy a guy I'd fought, Ruben Corea, in his U.S. debut, and had hoped to see Randy fight, knowing he was Mel's new prospect. Do any of you doubt for a moment that Hafey could have lost more than a bout that night. He's lucky to have left the Forum alive. I know how hard Danny hits from personal experience.

-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 03:50
by bennie
The three quores thing...

Randy, as you will know, Duran fought on the Pryor-Arguello Miami bill so he knew all about Pryor and obviously respected him. I read an interview with Duran recently and he talks about "knocking out" Buchanan if they had met again, as well as Arguello, if their 1978 showdown had transpired. He describes Alexis as too slow for him. Then Pryor is mentioned and Duran says, almost in deep thought, "I would have won a decision."
The difference says it all.
The Hawk was apparently willing to sport weight to Duran in a proposed encounter at Madison Square Garden in 1981, which is why I believe Duran would have proved too powerful. In the event Cooney fought Norton at the Garden instead and Duran came back at light-middle against Nino Gonzalez.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 03:54
by bennie
Rick Farris wrote:
Chuck1052 wrote:I liked Alexis Arguello as a fighter, but it is my feeling that he would be made-to-order for Roberto Duran.

In regards to Art Hafey, I also saw him fight Danny "Little Red" Lopez in person at the Forum in Inglewood. As noted before, Hafey took a brutal beating, but kept on fighting to the end and lande a number of telling shots. However, I often wonder why Hafey's corner didn't make a meaningful effort to get the bout stopped sooner.

- Chuck Johnston

Chuck, I agree with you 100% about Duran and Arguello. The same holds true for Duran vs. J.C. Chavez. As great a lightweight as Chavez was, his ability to take a punch and straight forward style would have led him to visiting the canvas more than once before Roberto Duran ruined him for good. Duran, for many of his title defenses, did not train properly, although he looked like he had. Guys like the Viruet bros., Lampkin, Fernandez, etc. met a great champ who was only in basicly good condition. Even in Duran's first match with DeJesus, his first pro loss, Duran was outta shape. Same with all who faced a 135lb. Roberto in non-title fights. This would drive Ray Arcel crazy! You know, however, that for a match with Nicaraqua's Arguello, or Mexico's Chavez, Duran would have been ready. Lucky for J.C. Chavez he missed Duran by a few years at 135lbs. My opinion only, of course.

-Rick
No doubt about it. Chavez got hit too much. Even in fights where he massacres opponents, those opponents are still catching him way too easily for my liking. Watch the ending to the Castillo fight on youtube, or the Rosario one. Julio had a great chin but, at lightweight, a great chin wouldn't have saved him against Duran.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 03:57
by Rick Farris
bennie wrote:The three quores thing...

Randy, as you will know, Duran fought on the Pryor-Arguello Miami bill so he knew all about Pryor and obviously respected him. I read an interview with Duran recently and he talks about "knocking out" Buchanan if they had met again, as well as Arguello, if their 1978 showdown had transpired. He describes Alexis as too slow for him. Then Pryor is mentioned and Duran says, almost in deep thought, "I would have won a decision."
The difference says it all.
The Hawk was apparently willing to sport weight to Duran in a proposed encounter at Madison Square Garden in 1981, which is why I believe Duran would have proved too powerful. In the event Cooney fought Norton at the Garden instead and Duran came back at light-middle against Nino Gonzalez.
Bennie . . . I think Pryor would have given anybody trouble. He was unorthodox and crazy, not too mention talented. I thought Arguello would level him with that right cross, instead, Pryor didn't even blink when it landed, it was all down hill for Alexis from there.

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 04:00
by bennie
Rick Farris wrote:
bennie wrote:The three quores thing...

Randy, as you will know, Duran fought on the Pryor-Arguello Miami bill so he knew all about Pryor and obviously respected him. I read an interview with Duran recently and he talks about "knocking out" Buchanan if they had met again, as well as Arguello, if their 1978 showdown had transpired. He describes Alexis as too slow for him. Then Pryor is mentioned and Duran says, almost in deep thought, "I would have won a decision."
The difference says it all.
The Hawk was apparently willing to sport weight to Duran in a proposed encounter at Madison Square Garden in 1981, which is why I believe Duran would have proved too powerful. In the event Cooney fought Norton at the Garden instead and Duran came back at light-middle against Nino Gonzalez.
Bennie . . . I think Pryor would have given anybody trouble. He was unorthodox and crazy, not too mention talented.

-Rick
He could fight, for sure. He walked through Cervantes, literally walked through him, and the way he switched tactics and outboxed Arguello was superb.
For me Pryor-Arguello I is the best fight of the 1980s.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 04:03
by Rick Farris
bennie wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
bennie wrote:The three quores thing...

Randy, as you will know, Duran fought on the Pryor-Arguello Miami bill so he knew all about Pryor and obviously respected him. I read an interview with Duran recently and he talks about "knocking out" Buchanan if they had met again, as well as Arguello, if their 1978 showdown had transpired. He describes Alexis as too slow for him. Then Pryor is mentioned and Duran says, almost in deep thought, "I would have won a decision."
The difference says it all.
The Hawk was apparently willing to sport weight to Duran in a proposed encounter at Madison Square Garden in 1981, which is why I believe Duran would have proved too powerful. In the event Cooney fought Norton at the Garden instead and Duran came back at light-middle against Nino Gonzalez.
Bennie . . . I think Pryor would have given anybody trouble. He was unorthodox and crazy, not too mention talented.

-Rick
He could fight, for sure. He walked through Cervantes, literally walked through him, and the way he switched tactics and outboxed Arguello was superb.
For me Pryor-Arguello I is the best fight of the 1980s.
I agree!

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 04:10
by bennie
Pryor was a wild, crazy guy, as you say Rick. His autobiography, "Flight of the Hawk", is well worth a read. When he was sexually abused as a child, his own disjointed family mocked him about it.
He used to sleep rough, even as a champ, he was so used to it. The man fought like he lived - all over the place.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 06:37
by bennie
Randyman wrote:
Chuck1052 wrote:I liked Alexis Arguello as a fighter, but it is my feeling that he would be made-to-order for Roberto Duran.

In regards to Art Hafey, I also saw him fight Danny "Little Red" Lopez in person at the Forum in Inglewood. As noted before, Hafey took a brutal beating, but kept on fighting to the end and lande a number of telling shots. However, I often wonder why Hafey's corner didn't make a meaningful effort to get the bout stopped sooner.

- Chuck Johnston
I have to agree with you Chuck. Ultimately Duran would have been to much for Arguello but I do think it would have been an interesting fight.

As for Hafey's corner not throwing in the towel, that as they say, is the million dollar question. They couldn't have been surprised. Lopez was on a roll at the time, having stopped his last six opponents. They had to be aware of their guy's limitations. Here's a link to an article/interview of Hafey by Dan Hanley that I found today on Cyberzone. I have no doubt you have already read it but someone else may find it interesting. http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/w0505-hanley.html

Randy
Another great interview from Dan Hanley. I see Art cites Moreno, as opposed to Little Red.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 08:19
by kikibalt
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L-to-R
Paul Andrews and Franklin "Rocky" Haynes, Andrew fought and defeated big name fighters in his
career, Haynes does not have an outstanding record, he lost more then he won, but he just kept
right on trucking, I'll will post their records below.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 08:23
by kikibalt
Paul Andrews

Country USA
Global Id 10366
Hometown Buffalo, NY
Birthplace Lafayette, AL, USA
Division Heavyweight
Born 1930-09-12
Height 191cm


Career Record © www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1962-06-12 Zora Folley Sacramento, USA L TKO 7
1962-03-27 Bill McMurray Sacramento, USA W PTS 10
1960-03-08 Willie Ray Richardson San Jose, USA W KO 7
1959-11-21 Otis Fuller Los Angeles, USA W TKO 7
1959-11-09 Don Howard Tucker Tyler, USA W KO 1
1959-07-30 Curley Lee Chapman Los Angeles, USA L TKO 6
1959-06-01 Duke Sabedong Oakland, USA W UD 10
1957-05-27 Wayne Bethea New York City, USA L SD 10
1957-04-02 Ernie Cab Miami Beach, USA W UD 10
1957-01-29 Warnell Lester Miami Beach, USA W TKO 7
1955-12-06 Bob Satterfield Buffalo, USA L KO 9
1955-07-13 Ezzard Charles Chicago, USA L SD 10
1955-05-10 Jimmy Slade Buffalo, USA W UD 10
1955-02-11 Harold Johnson New York City, USA L KO 6
1954-12-29 Oakland Billy Smith Miami, USA W TKO 6
1954-11-24 Joey Maxim Chicago, USA L UD 10
1954-11-02 Bo Willis Miami Beach, USA W KO 2
1954-09-08 Bobby Hughes Chicago, USA W KO 2
1954-07-26 Yvon Durelle New York City, USA W KO 5
1954-07-06 Chubby Wright Miami Beach, USA W SD 10
1954-06-23 Danny Nardico Chicago, USA W TKO 4
1954-03-17 Harold Johnson Chicago, USA L MD 10
1954-01-05 Larry Watson Chicago, USA W KO 7
1953-11-13 Gordon Wallace Chicago, USA W PTS 6
1953-09-16 Bob Dunlap Chicago, USA W KO 8
1953-08-19 Toxie Hall Chicago, USA W PTS 6
1953-07-22 Andy Godwin Chicago, USA W KO 2
1952-11-28 Clarence Hinnant New York City, USA W PTS 6
1952-10-20 Jimmy Franklin Brooklyn, USA W PTS 6
1952-09-08 Willie Dockery Brooklyn, USA W PTS 6
1952-07-28 Tommy Harrison Bronx, USA L PTS 6
1952-07-14 Jimmy Hooper Brooklyn, USA W KO 3
1952-06-16 Peter Nelson Brooklyn, USA W KO 2
1952-04-07 Elton Evans New York City, USA W PTS 8
1952-02-18 Al Winn New York City, USA L TKO 6
1952-01-17 Dick Davis Sunnyside, Queens, USA W KO 4
1951-12-06 Cal Vernon Sunnyside, Queens, USA W PTS 6
1951-11-23 Ned Hicks New York City, USA W KO 2
1951-11-08 Tom Nelson Sunnyside, Queens, USA W PTS 6
1951-10-30 Dominick Perro Brooklyn, USA W KO 2
1951-10-25 Vincent Roy Smith Sunnyside, Queens, USA W PTS 6
1951-10-11 Eddie Henderson Sunnyside, Queens, USA W KO 1
1951-08-22 Lester Reed New York City, USA W KO 1
1951-07-06 Johnny Brown Long Beach, USA W PTS 6
1951-07-02 Lester Reed Newark, USA W PTS 4
1950-07-23 Carlisle Sullivan Las Vegas, USA W KO 2
1950-07-10 George Kennedy Ocean Park, USA W TKO 3

Record to Date
Won 37 (KOs 21) Lost 10 Drawn 0 Total 47