Re: Napoles & Monzon . . .
Posted: 26 Aug 2008, 14:28
Bennie, I remember Alexis Arguello landing the right hands on Pryor. He had no problem landing. Anyone else would have went down. Duran certainly had a better arsenal overall than Pryor. Weight not withstanding. I would love to see the Duran that beat Ray Leonard in Montreal, fight the Aaron Pryor that beat Arguello in their first fight. Because Pryor's career was cut short from drugs, his career is somewhat of an enigma. One wonder's just how good he might have been. Still I think Duran was the more complete fighter. By the way, too bad we never saw Duran vs Arguello.bennie wrote:Duran had a chance to fight Pryor after "No Mas", according to the book Hands of Stone, when Pryor was a light-welter. Duran would have prevailed on power alone (Pryor was hittable with the right hand) but he did the right thing in easing his way back.Randyman wrote:Roberto Duran is my favorite fighter. I have gone over many 'What ifs" with Duran against so many fighters, including Aaron Pryor. For some reason a fight with Napoles never entered my mind. It has all the potential for being a classic. I had to chuckle a little when I read your last sentence. You know Duran has mellowed through the years when you can say with a straight face Duran has mutual respect..... Even the mighty Duran had to age. Man I loved that guy. Even with all his quirks and faults and "No mas".Rick Farris wrote:Granberry . . .
When Napoles fought Monzon, he was at the tail end of a very long career. In addition to that, what people fail to realize concerning Napoles, is that he really was never more than a "blown-up" natural lightweight. I realize that with age, men grow into heavier weight classes, but Napoles ideal weight would have put him at Jr. Welter.
Carlos Monzon was not only a very big middleweight, he was one of the greatest ever, certainly superior to most who have held the title since, save Hagler. He came up at a time when we still had great middleweights (no disrespect to Hopkins, or Pavlik, etc. but they don't really rate as championship quality in comparison to past 160lb. champs.
Monzon was too big, too young, and combined with his own exceptional talent and power, just too much for an aging welterweight, even one as great as Jose Napoles.
Personlly, what I think would be a great fantasy match would be a prime Jose Napoles vs. the Roberto Duran that whipped Leonard in their first fight.
As Duran said, his first fight with Leonard was not his toughest. Duran has always credited some of his earliest opponents as the toughest he ever faced. Many of the boxers Duran claims gave him his toughest fights were names that can be find as KO victims of Napoles. Today there is a great mutual respect between these two great champions.
-Rick Farris
I agree with you about the middleweights Rick. No disrespect to Hopkins and any other recent middleweight champ but Hagler was the last great champ of that storied division. Leonard beat him (I thought Hagler won) but he didn't do enough as a middleweight to be considered one of the greatest. My opinion.


