Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Franklin "Rocky" Haynes

Alias Leo Parks
Country USA
Global Id 27374
Hometown Oakland, CA
Division Heavyweight


Career Record © www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1961-07-25 Junius Washington Richmond, USA L TKO 8
1961-06-22 Roy Smith Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1961-03-21 Thad Spencer San Jose, USA L PTS 10
1961-02-16 Floyd Palmer Victoria, Canada L PTS 8
1960-12-09 Larry Maldonado Yuma, USA L TKO 8
1960-05-31 Tommy Fields Los Angeles, USA L UD 10
1960-02-26 Roger Rischer San Francisco, USA L TKO 4
1959-12-29 Roy Smith Los Angeles, USA W UD 6
1959-05-21 Curley Lee Chapman Los Angeles, USA L KO 5
1959-05-08 Walter Haufft Germany W PTS 6
1959-01-13 Kirk Barrow Seattle, USA W PTS 6
1959-01-09 Alfredo Zuany San Antonio, USA L KO 2
1958-12-04 John Riggins Seattle, USA L PTS 6
1958-11-06 Leo Merino Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1957-07-11 Reuben Wilson Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1956-12-15 Monroe Ratliff Hollywood, USA L UD 6
1956-11-29 Charlie Earl Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1956-11-22 Lonnie Malone Los Angeles, USA L SD 6
1956-11-01 Monroe Ratliff Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1956-10-11 Jo Jo Shelton Las Vegas, USA D PTS 6
1956-09-15 Monroe Ratliff Hollywood, USA L UD 6
1956-07-21 Harvey Taylor Hollywood, USA L PTS 6
1956-05-05 Charley Black Hollywood, USA W PTS 4
1956-01-14 Bull Halsey Portland, USA W PTS 8
1955-08-02 Frankie Daniels Bakersfield, USA L PTS 10
1955-07-05 Paul Favrot Ocean Park, USA W UD 6
1955-06-28 Henry Taylor Ocean Park, USA W PTS 6
1955-06-25 Fred Johnson Hollywood, USA W PTS 4
1955-06-21 Fred Johnson Ocean Park, USA D PTS 4
1955-06-14 Shamus Jones Ocean Park, USA D PTS 4
1955-05-31 Fred Johnson Ocean Park, USA W PTS 4
1955-05-18 Chico Flores Hollywood, USA W PTS 4
1955-03-29 Frank Parley Ocean Park, USA W TKO 4
1954-11-23 Tiger McHenry Ocean Park, USA L PTS 4
1954-10-27 Wes Echols San Francisco, USA L PTS 10
1954-09-30 Freddie Brown Seattle, USA L PTS 4
1954-09-21 Ruben Hernandez Richmond, USA L PTS 8
1954-02-17 George Holmes North Hollywood, USA L TKO 4
1954-01-09 Mel Blackshear Hollywood, USA L PTS 4
1953-12-12 Fred Hawkins Eureka, USA L KO 7
1953-11-14 Marco Polo Hollywood, USA L PTS 6
1953-11-07 Marco Polo Hollywood, USA L PTS 4
1953-10-03 Bob McLane Hollywood, USA L TKO 2
1953-09-07 Clarence Block Santa Cruz, USA D PTS 4
1953-03-03 Ralph Gomez San Jose, USA L PTS 4

Record to Date
Won 16 (KOs 2) Lost 25 Drawn 4 Total 45
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kikibalt wrote:Image
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Paul Andrews and Franklin "Rocky" Haynes, Andrew fought and defeated big name fighters in his
career, Haynes does not have an outstanding record, he lost more then he won, but he just kept
right on trucking, I'll will post their records below.

Frank . . . Paul Andrews belongs in the CBHOF. He fought some great fighters. I noticed that he fought Curly Lee Chapman. Chapman went to high school with Dwight Hawkins at Manuel Arts H.S. in L.A. Do you remember Curly Lee?

-Rick
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Rick, thanks for the info on Ingo and Sanders.
Its hard to figure a guy who was gonna be Heavyweight champ being so intimidated like that.
Its better to go out on the old shield than to spit the bit and run out of the ring.
I wonder how this all played back in Sweden.
He must have caught a lot of grief.
Its funny, that event I have an easier time picturing happenning nowadys then back in 1952.
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Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
L-to-R
Paul Andrews and Franklin "Rocky" Haynes, Andrew fought and defeated big name fighters in his
career, Haynes does not have an outstanding record, he lost more then he won, but he just kept
right on trucking, I'll will post their records below.

Frank . . . Paul Andrews belongs in the CBHOF. He fought some great fighters. I noticed that he fought Curly Lee Chapman. Chapman went to high school with Dwight Hawkins at Manuel Arts H.S. in L.A. Do you remember Curly Lee?

-Rick
Rick,

I remember Lee well, seen him fight a few times live, I have a pic or two of Lee, I'll try to fine them and post'em.
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Good Fighter, tragic end, Curley lee Chapman fought frequently in Hollywood and
Los Aangeles during the late 1950's, in a short but impressive career, he defeated
Johnny Hayden, Paul Andrews and Howard King, but on October 14, 1959 he was
stopped by Cleveland Williams in a bout that ended his ring aspirations. In 1972 Lee
drowned his four children and murderd his brother-in-law.He received a live sentence in
prison.
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Expug wrote:Rick, thanks for the info on Ingo and Sanders.
Its hard to figure a guy who was gonna be Heavyweight champ being so intimidated like that.
Its better to go out on the old shield than to spit the bit and run out of the ring.
I wonder how this all played back in Sweden.
He must have caught a lot of grief.
Its funny, that event I have an easier time picturing happenning nowadys then back in 1952.
Well, put it this way, Pug, they banned pro boxing in Sweden in 1970.
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kikibalt wrote:Image
L-to-R
Paul Andrews and Franklin "Rocky" Haynes, Andrew fought and defeated big name fighters in his
career, Haynes does not have an outstanding record, he lost more then he won, but he just kept
right on trucking, I'll will post their records below.
These two look like they could tell a thousand stories.
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A young Paul Andrews
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Paul Andrews (R) vs Jimmy Slade...1955
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Jimmy Lennon Sr., Frankie Baltazar, John Martinez, Johnnie Flores & Frank Baltazar, @ the Olympic Aud. 1976
I met Frankie Jr twice. I have to tell you guys, He is a class act. I couldn't help but notice how humble he was, a regular guy. He played down his career but it was a good one. Frank, ya done good. I hope to meet all your boys someday my friend. They say the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. At least in the Baltazar family, it's true. Good people and I'm proud to call Frank my friend.

Randy
This is a great shot. Frankie looks sooooo laid back and Frank Jnr is enjoying the intro from the great Jimmy Lennon. I watched Jimmy Lennon Jnr in action in Nottingham in May when Tim Bradley shocked Junior Witter. He also points like this. One of the fighters in action, a Syrian living in Yorskhire, got the Lennon treatment. "In the red corner, from Dewsbury by way of Syria..."
The fighter also enjoyed it.
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bennie wrote:
Expug wrote:Rick, thanks for the info on Ingo and Sanders.
Its hard to figure a guy who was gonna be Heavyweight champ being so intimidated like that.
Its better to go out on the old shield than to spit the bit and run out of the ring.
I wonder how this all played back in Sweden.
He must have caught a lot of grief.
Its funny, that event I have an easier time picturing happenning nowadys then back in 1952.
Well, put it this way, Pug, they banned pro boxing in Sweden in 1970.
The 1952 Olympics and Ingo's performance didn't have anything to do with boxing being banned in Sweden. Why was boxing banned? A study ordered by the Swedish government in the late 60s found that boxing caused severe and life-threatening injuries to participants, had a brutalizing effect on the audience, and that the sport was governed by "unsound economic interests." At the time of the ban, Ingo was a national hero.

BTW, Sweden - the land of my ancestors - lifted the ban in 2006 after it began allowing MMA, and it was deemed hypocritical by the Swedish government to permit MMA but not boxing. Sweden is selective in the bouts it permits, however. For example, it turned down a request by a German promoter to stage a WBA heavyweight title fight involving champion Nikolai Valuev in January 2007.
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raylawpc wrote:
bennie wrote:
Expug wrote:Rick, thanks for the info on Ingo and Sanders.
Its hard to figure a guy who was gonna be Heavyweight champ being so intimidated like that.
Its better to go out on the old shield than to spit the bit and run out of the ring.
I wonder how this all played back in Sweden.
He must have caught a lot of grief.
Its funny, that event I have an easier time picturing happenning nowadys then back in 1952.
Well, put it this way, Pug, they banned pro boxing in Sweden in 1970.
The 1952 Olympics and Ingo's performance didn't have anything to do with boxing being banned in Sweden. Why was boxing banned? A study ordered by the Swedish government in the late 60s found that boxing caused severe and life-threatening injuries to participants, had a brutalizing effect on the audience, and that the sport was governed by "unsound economic interests." At the time of the ban, Ingo was a national hero.

BTW, Sweden - the land of my ancestors - lifted the ban in 2006 after it began allowing MMA, and it was deemed hypocritical by the Swedish government to permit MMA but not boxing. Sweden is selective in the bouts it permits, however. For example, it turned down a request by a German promoter to stage a WBA heavyweight title fight involving champion Nikolai Valuev in January 2007.
That was a pretty accurate report, especially the last bit.
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We had a Swedish guy fight over here a few times, by the name of Ole Klemetsen. Jesus, he could bang! Trouble is, he either won - or lost - by knockout, and he began to get hurt too much for my liking.
I hope he's OK today.
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Actually, Klemetsen may have been from Norway.
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bennie wrote:We had a Swedish guy fight over here a few times, by the name of Ole Klemetsen. Jesus, he could bang! Trouble is, he either won - or lost - by knockout, and he began to get hurt too much for my liking.
I hope he's OK today.
I have a bit of an interest in this since my ancestary on my Mom's side is Swedish. (If I could read Swedish, I'd probably be researching a book on Johansson instead of Jeffries.) The last time I checked in 2005, there were only about 20 professional fighters from Sweden plying their trade. Most of them were forced to work in Germany or Denmark. It must be hard when your country bans your sport. Hopefully things will pick up for boxing in Sweden. It was very popular there in the 50s and 60s.

BTW, Norway has dropped its ban too . . . (But who cares what the Norwegians do, huh? :wink: :wink: :wink: )
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You know, Ray, I met Steffen Tangstad in Germany in 2003. He is the enemy, too (Norwegian) - but what a nice guy! I knew he once held Buster Douglas to a draw but I deliberately buttered him up and said, "You beat Buster Douglas."

"Drew," he said.
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Yes, those guys are both Norwegian. Had Tangstad been Swedish, he would have defeated Douglas. :wink: :wink:
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dagosd2000 wrote:
raylawpc wrote:Anyone notice how dull it gets on this thread when Frank's not around? . . . :wink: Three hours between this post and the last one.

Geez, I wish Connie wouldn't let him out of the house to go to Hollywood, of all places. No telling when he'll be back . . .
Gee Tom
I'll just speak for myself.I apologize if I made things dull for you. I'll try harder next time.
My comment was actually directed more at teasing my old friend Frank. If you are serious, I apologize if I offended you in any way by my comment. This website is a lot of fun, and everybody contributes a lot of fascinating information and great discussion.

I always enjoy your posts, dagosd2000.
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Two gents at the GSBA luncheon, Ray Ramos, Mando's dad,and Mando's one
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(l-r) Mark Scott (lead singer Miracles), Ernie Terrell, Ken Norton, Jim Carlin and Earnie Shavers.
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Jack Dempsey

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Wether you think he was the greatest heavyweight or not, one thing for sure, Dempsey looked and carried himself like a fighter.
He captured the imagination of fight fans for many reasons, but one reason was because he fit what they thought a fighter should look and act like Im sure.
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