Betting thread

[bennie]

George Groves gets it on with Chris Eubank Junior in a tantalising 12-rounder in Manchester that nobody can call with any great confidence.
We know all about them. Groves faces his biggest domestic test (no disrespect to Jamie Cox) since he went in twice with Carl Froch a few years ago which proved that the Londoner has the strength and ability to compete at world level and he's competed strongly at that level ever since, win or lose; Eubank Junior suffered a disappointing defeat to Billy Joe Saunders back in 2014 but he's rattled off eight wins since - one or two in genuine world class - and looks a much-improved fighter. The bookies make him a slight favourite against Groves and I go along with that. Boxing is all about timing. Eubank Junior is the man in the right place at the right time.
On the undercard, Ryan Walsh defends his British featherweight title against mandatory challenger Isaac Lowe. The seasoned Walsh, a pro 10 years, suffered a contentious points defeat in a crack at the European title two years ago but bounced back impressively last year with a late stoppage of Belfast's Marco McCullough to win a Lonsdale Belt outright. Lowe also impressed against McCullough when they met in 2016, stopping him in eight rounds, so this has the makings of an excellent contest between two capable, confident, well-supported fighters. Lowe is the younger man by seven years at 24 but Walsh is hardly used up after 25 outings and appears to have found his level at the top of the domestic stack and he can punch his way to an exciting 12-round decision.
Also on the card, Tommy Langford defends his British middleweight title against Blackpool's Jack Arnfield in a good-looking clash. Langford, a tall Devon man based in Birmingham, rebuilds from a painful foray into world class against Georgian strongman Avtandil Khurtsidze last April in Leicester. He was overwhelmed in five rounds but outscored a Nicaraguan over six rounds in October which serves as a nice loosener for Arnfield, another rangy fellow who previously challenged Nick Blackwell for this same British title in 2015 and gave it a great go before he dropped a decision.
Arnfield took that fight at just a week's notice and has won his last six so he deserves a second crack. He has the ability to make things very interesting indeed, and this one could go either way, it really could, but I lean towards Arnfield.

[littlepug]

George Groves gets it on with Chris Eubank Junior in a tantalising 12-rounder in Manchester that nobody can call with any great confidence.
We know all about them. Groves faces his biggest domestic test (no disrespect to Jamie Cox) since he went in twice with Carl Froch a few years ago which proved that the Londoner has the strength and ability to compete at world level and he's competed strongly at that level ever since, win or lose; Eubank Junior suffered a disappointing defeat to Billy Joe Saunders back in 2014 but he's rattled off eight wins since - one or two in genuine world class - and looks a much-improved fighter. The bookies make him a slight favourite against Groves and I go along with that. Boxing is all about timing. Eubank Junior is the man in the right place at the right time.
On the undercard, Ryan Walsh defends his British featherweight title against mandatory challenger Isaac Lowe. The seasoned Walsh, a pro 10 years, suffered a contentious points defeat in a crack at the European title two years ago but bounced back impressively last year with a late stoppage of Belfast's Marco McCullough to win a Lonsdale Belt outright. Lowe also impressed against McCullough when they met in 2016, stopping him in eight rounds, so this has the makings of an excellent contest between two capable, confident, well-supported fighters. Lowe is the younger man by seven years at 24 but Walsh is hardly used up after 25 outings and appears to have found his level at the top of the domestic stack and he can punch his way to an exciting 12-round decision.
Also on the card, Tommy Langford defends his British middleweight title against Blackpool's Jack Arnfield in a good-looking clash. Langford, a tall Devon man based in Birmingham, rebuilds from a painful foray into world class against Georgian strongman Avtandil Khurtsidze last April in Leicester. He was overwhelmed in five rounds but outscored a Nicaraguan over six rounds in October which serves as a nice loosener for Arnfield, another rangy fellow who previously challenged Nick Blackwell for this same British title in 2015 and gave it a great go before he dropped a decision.
Arnfield took that fight at just a week's notice and has won his last six so he deserves a second crack. He has the ability to make things very interesting indeed, and this one could go either way, it really could, but I lean towards Arnfield.

ive also backed Arnfield and Walsh but gone the other way for the main event with Eubank being far too small for me to think he can overcome Groves, Groves by ko for me, have also got a few quid on Grove points

[SAPFO]

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[SAPFO]

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[littlepug]

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Ive a few similar bets although gone the other way For Haye/Bellew as i dont think Hayes body can get through another 12 rounds, good luck

[ardybo]

Price boost with hills, groves £200 on returns £522.... Easiest money i'll make this year

If I had a spare grand I bung it on that. Bookies odds on Jnr are just stupid, its probably down to the casuals watching him hit the speed bag. Bit like what happened with McGregor vs Floyd.

it really does remind me of that, all good punching a bag 900 times in 10 seconds but Groves is much bigger, stronger and the far better boxer. easy money. i'd put my last grand on it never mind spare

I'm stil on the fence about this contest, but cant agree with your logic that groves is the much bigger man. Groves is a mere 1/2" taller than Eubank and Eubank has a longer reach. I dont think size will be a factor in this match-up, but it could come down to experience at this level, which Groves has in abundance but is Groves on the decline? Eubank is certainingly improving. As I said its a hard one to call

[DSW]

Price coming in for Groves now, starting to get closer to the true price

[SAPFO]

I’ve had a 17 fold over the coming months. The hardest ones in it were Eubank & Haye. £100 pays £1200. Rest are all massively odds on. 1/25 etc

[Bard of Boxrec]

trying to predict the groves/eubank fight gives me a headache, i've been back and forth so many times on this. No real betting market appeals to me either

[JimGunn]

I better see some urgency from Mr. I Want To Get My Green Card and Stay in America this time:

Raymundo Beltran wins by KO/TKO/DQ (-133) vs Paulus Moses ~$133.00 for ~$100.00

[Kilsby]

trying to predict the groves/eubank fight gives me a headache, i've been back and forth so many times on this. No real betting market appeals to me either

^^^
I'll help you out...

Groves can't win as his engine is clapped out. It ain't getting any better with age and wasn't particularly good in his prime. He was blowing against Chud at the time of the stoppage and was a relieved man after 4 rounds Vs Cox.

He simply can't stay with Eubank at this point.

He's done. Eubank will see out Groves best work in the first 4 rounds then slowly turn the screw. It will be over mid to late rounds.

Thank me in the morning.

[jamamb]

can you tell me why i should bet on underdog braehmer vs smith? i notice you picked jurg to win in that prediction competition but im not sure at his age he does it vs a huge young guy like cal

[jamamb]

I better see some urgency from Mr. I Want To Get My Green Card and Stay in America this time:

Raymundo Beltran wins by KO/TKO/DQ (-133) vs Paulus Moses ~$133.00 for ~$100.00

beltrans lost his ped power

[Kilsby]

can you tell me why i should bet on underdog braehmer vs smith? i notice you picked jurg to win in that prediction competition but im not sure at his age he does it vs a huge young guy like cal

Of course, Smith is the better fighter. Let's be clear...

The venue is the deciding factor. Braehmer will do enough to make it look fairly competitive and that will be enough in Germany. It will go to the scorecards and Braehmer will be given a close or split decision to the disgust of most of the observers - except the locals.

Always glad to help.

[adamwillan]

Why are the bookies going against all of the 'expert's, there must be a lot of money going on Eubank.

I've gone Eubank 10-12 @10s
Groves points @5.2 (seems like the best bet going to me)

[SenorPipino]

I better see some urgency from Mr. I Want To Get My Green Card and Stay in America this time:

Raymundo Beltran wins by KO/TKO/DQ (-133) vs Paulus Moses ~$133.00 for ~$100.00

beltrans lost his ped power

Beltran has never been a great puncher.

Despite the aura of being a big banger, Beltran has only scored KOs in half his fights.

[Jmashyaka]

Why are the bookies going against all of the 'expert's, there must be a lot of money going on Eubank.

I've gone Eubank 10-12 @10s
Groves points @5.2 (seems like the best bet going to me)

Perfect bet and hedge that’s exactly what I had in mine.

[Cholo_cws]

George Groves gets it on with Chris Eubank Junior in a tantalising 12-rounder in Manchester that nobody can call with any great confidence.
We know all about them. Groves faces his biggest domestic test (no disrespect to Jamie Cox) since he went in twice with Carl Froch a few years ago which proved that the Londoner has the strength and ability to compete at world level and he's competed strongly at that level ever since, win or lose; Eubank Junior suffered a disappointing defeat to Billy Joe Saunders back in 2014 but he's rattled off eight wins since - one or two in genuine world class - and looks a much-improved fighter. The bookies make him a slight favourite against Groves and I go along with that. Boxing is all about timing. Eubank Junior is the man in the right place at the right time.
On the undercard, Ryan Walsh defends his British featherweight title against mandatory challenger Isaac Lowe. The seasoned Walsh, a pro 10 years, suffered a contentious points defeat in a crack at the European title two years ago but bounced back impressively last year with a late stoppage of Belfast's Marco McCullough to win a Lonsdale Belt outright. Lowe also impressed against McCullough when they met in 2016, stopping him in eight rounds, so this has the makings of an excellent contest between two capable, confident, well-supported fighters. Lowe is the younger man by seven years at 24 but Walsh is hardly used up after 25 outings and appears to have found his level at the top of the domestic stack and he can punch his way to an exciting 12-round decision.
Also on the card, Tommy Langford defends his British middleweight title against Blackpool's Jack Arnfield in a good-looking clash. Langford, a tall Devon man based in Birmingham, rebuilds from a painful foray into world class against Georgian strongman Avtandil Khurtsidze last April in Leicester. He was overwhelmed in five rounds but outscored a Nicaraguan over six rounds in October which serves as a nice loosener for Arnfield, another rangy fellow who previously challenged Nick Blackwell for this same British title in 2015 and gave it a great go before he dropped a decision.
Arnfield took that fight at just a week's notice and has won his last six so he deserves a second crack. He has the ability to make things very interesting indeed, and this one could go either way, it really could, but I lean towards Arnfield.

Pretty much the same as I see it. I expect them all to be close and/or competitive fights. I just hope poor judging doesn't become a deciding factor.

[Finn]

80/1 for both fighters to go down and Eubank to win. What are people’s thoughts on this? Seems like good odds.

[SAPFO]

Beltran
Kavaliaskus
Jennings
Usyk
Haye
Crawford
Khan
Flannigan
BJS
Povetkin
Mikey Garcia
Brook
Callum Smith
Danny Garcia
Zach Parker
Eubank

£100 pays £1232


Just thought I'd hedge my bet and have also had this one below...

Usyk
Haye
Crawford
Khan
Flannigan
BJS
Povetkin
Mikey Garcia
Brook
Callum Smith
Danny Garcia
Zach Parker
Groves

£100 pays £1476

[freddydoesdallas]

Sky bet flash price of 16/1 both fighters to be knocked down. Good offer in my book.

Elsewhere, I'm on groves. Has the better cv and I don't think Eubank one would beat anyone he's lost to

[jamamb]

I better see some urgency from Mr. I Want To Get My Green Card and Stay in America this time:

Raymundo Beltran wins by KO/TKO/DQ (-133) vs Paulus Moses ~$133.00 for ~$100.00

beltrans lost his ped power

Beltran has never been a great puncher.

Despite the aura of being a big banger, Beltran has only scored KOs in half his fights.

beltran was on a big ko run and had scored 5 nasty kos in a row after losing to crawford. go look at the ao, macielo, najera, and manard fights. just brutal. no one else at lw was doing that as consistently.

that he was really never a great puncher before yet then suddenly in his mid 30s was ktfoing ppl left and right to me suggests that the peds hes since been caught taking really boosted his power. hes little pedvetkin.

his overall average ko rate is part of why it looks like the peds helped

[JimGunn]

Alright, I can't resist backing a live dog: George Groves (+160) vs Chris Eubank Jr. $200.00 for $320.00

[littlepug]

trying to predict the groves/eubank fight gives me a headache, i've been back and forth so many times on this. No real betting market appeals to me either

^^^
I'll help you out...

Groves can't win as his engine is clapped out. It ain't getting any better with age and wasn't particularly good in his prime. He was blowing against Chud at the time of the stoppage and was a relieved man after 4 rounds Vs Cox.

He simply can't stay with Eubank at this point.

He's done. Eubank will see out Groves best work in the first 4 rounds then slowly turn the screw. It will be over mid to late rounds.

Thank me in the morning.

thank you

[Omerta]

Took groves to win by decision at 4/1 on skybet also had a smaller bet on the price boost of 16/1 for both fighters to be knocked down