Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 22:34
Tony Baltazar

Tony was asleep and then the phone rang....

Tony was asleep and then the phone rang....

And so the great debate continues. Honestly Ray, I think most people understand that but it's a loyalty to Dempsey, even after all these years, and one of the best "What if" that boxing has ever produced. If the fight ended when the bell sounded, what fun would that be?I'll catch hell for it, but in my opinion, there was no long count. Dempsey didn't go to a neutral corner. The ref was right.
Tony has the same problem with his hair that I do when I wake up. Great photo Frank!kikibalt wrote:Tony Baltazar
Tony was asleep and then the phone rang....![]()
Great minds think alike!Expug wrote:Ray, your right. Dempsey hovered over him and shouldnt have.
However , whats important in the context of boxing history is the fact its a great story.
Could Tunney get up or couldnt he?
Who knows.The important thing about it is it keeps folks talking about it. Arguing about it.Its historical.
100 years from now they will still be talkin about it.
Does anyone remember who won the NBA title three years ago?
Randyman wrote:Tony has the same problem with his hair that I do when I wake up. Great photo Frank!
Frank, I posted this one on the website.kikibalt wrote:
Four generation of Baltazar's
L-to-R..Rocky, Frankie, me and my dad Aurelio
Indeed.Randyman wrote:Great minds think alike!Expug wrote:Ray, your right. Dempsey hovered over him and shouldnt have.
However , whats important in the context of boxing history is the fact its a great story.
Could Tunney get up or couldnt he?
Who knows.The important thing about it is it keeps folks talking about it. Arguing about it.Its historical.
100 years from now they will still be talkin about it.
Does anyone remember who won the NBA title three years ago?

Randyman wrote:Frank, I posted this one on the website.kikibalt wrote:
Four generation of Baltazar's
L-to-R..Rocky, Frankie, me and my dad Aurelio
Beautiful work Rog.kikibalt wrote:John L. Sullivan
"John L."
By Diego
Frank, that caption reminds me of a story about Floyd Patterson. Floyd, Gene Fullmer and Jose Torres were having lunch at Floyd's home. Not far away, a grandfather clock struck one. "Bong!" After a few seconds, Floyd broke the silence by saying, "If someone else will admit they heard that, I will, too."kikibalt wrote:Tony Baltazar
Tony was asleep and then the phone rang....![]()
Diego, that truly is a wonderful portrait of the Great John L. I would like to get a print to hang on the wall in my study. Seriously!Expug wrote:Beautiful work Rog.kikibalt wrote:John L. Sullivan
"John L."
By Diego
raylawpc wrote:Frank, that caption reminds me of a story about Floyd Patterson. Floyd, Gene Fullmer and Jose Torres were having lunch at Floyd's home. Not far away, a grandfather clock struck one. "Bong!" After a few seconds, Floyd broke the silence by saying, "If someone else will admit they heard that, I will, too."kikibalt wrote:Tony Baltazar
Tony was asleep and then the phone rang....![]()
Diego can put out some great portraits, he did a great one on Frankie and Tony that sits on my fireplace mantel...raylawpc wrote:Diego, that truly is a wonderful portrait of the Great John L. I would like to get a print to hang on the wall in my study. Seriously!Expug wrote:Beautiful work Rog.kikibalt wrote:John L. Sullivan
"John L."
By Diego
Do you have a scan you can post Frank? I'd like to see it!kikibalt wrote:
Diego can put out some great portraits, he did a great one on Frankie and Tony that sits on my fireplace mantel...
Tomraylawpc wrote:Diego, that truly is a wonderful portrait of the Great John L. I would like to get a print to hang on the wall in my study. Seriously!Expug wrote:Beautiful work Rog.kikibalt wrote:John L. Sullivan
"John L."
By Diego
Frank,bennie wrote:This is a great shot. Frankie looks sooooo laid back and Frank Jnr is enjoying the intro from the great Jimmy Lennon. I watched Jimmy Lennon Jnr in action in Nottingham in May when Tim Bradley shocked Junior Witter. He also points like this. One of the fighters in action, a Syrian living in Yorskhire, got the Lennon treatment. "In the red corner, from Dewsbury by way of Syria..."Randyman wrote:Randykikibalt wrote:
Jimmy Lennon Sr., Frankie Baltazar, John Martinez, Johnnie Flores & Frank Baltazar, @ the Olympic Aud. 1976
The fighter also enjoyed it.
Nice, Rog. I remember reading that Gable died of a heart attack just a few days after shooting a film with Marilyn Monroe.kikibalt wrote:Clark Gable
"Gable"
By Diego
Jack has all the features of a fighter. Look at that jaw! Nothing would really dent that, save a sledgehammer.kikibalt wrote:
Jack Dempsey
Tangstad got clattered by big Swede Anders Eklund. It earned Eklund the dubious honour of a fight with Bruno.raylawpc wrote:Yes, those guys are both Norwegian. Had Tangstad been Swedish, he would have defeated Douglas.![]()
Diego's great workraylawpc wrote:Do you have a scan you can post Frank? I'd like to see it!kikibalt wrote:
Diego can put out some great portraits, he did a great one on Frankie and Tony that sits on my fireplace mantel...

Marilyn Monroebennie wrote:Nice, Rog. I remember reading that Gable died of a heart attack just a few days after shooting a film with Marilyn Monroe.kikibalt wrote:Clark Gable
"Gable"
By Diego
I'm sure her sexy presence did him no good at all.

Bruce,Bobbin & Weavin wrote:
Jimmy Lennon Sr., Frankie Baltazar, John Martinez, Johnnie Flores & Frank Baltazar, @ the Olympic Aud. 1976
Frank,
You do look laid back in this picture but what were you feeling; were you one who handled the big moments laid back or was it like some of the great athletes and preformers leaving their dinner in the restroom before the event. After all you were not "just" this fighters manager you were also his father and married to his mother so there was a lot more riding on it then the avarage fighter/manager relationship. Lastly was there a different level of emotion for different level opponants?
Thanks,
Bobbin & Weavin
