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Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 21 Apr 2009, 22:10
by jeej
DG, you've really gone down in my estimations over the past couple of months. You can be a bit of a dick mate.
I mean there are plenty of dicks on here (and also plenty of top people too), but I never had you down as one of the dicks, not until recently.
It's a well known fact that Hatton is far more comfortable when he can physically overpower/bully his opponents and he is out of his comfort zone against guys who are bigger than him. So what if he was a couple of pounds heavier than Floyd on fight night, didn't stop the fact that the taller Floyd made things difficult by man handling him and placing his forearms into his face and neck. These are things Ricky has done plenty of times himself in his career and I also think that even in other circumstances PBF would still have beaten Ricky, so I'm not complaining bout that, I'm just reiterating that at the end of the day Floyd is the bigger guy.
Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 04:01
by Dioufy
Floyd is bigger - anyone who says different is a mug'lington.
Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 05:53
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Loynesy wrote:DG - posting a picture of Hatton sparko doesn't help your initial synopsis that he is bigger than Wayweather.
Nor does citing what happens post weigh-in. Last time I was dehydrated and drank water, I don't believe my height or reach improved...
I can agree that FMJ is the better fighter, indeed being ringside, from round 3 or 4 he was superb, but it is impossible, intellectually, to claim Hatton is bigger.
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NO! Mayweather has longer skeleton structure, Hatton has much more muscle mass and as a result has a strength advanatage, its similar to Lamotta-Robinson, Lamotta was 17lbs heavier in their first fight but Robinson taller/longer reach. Or Hagler-Hearns, Hearns has much greater reach/height but Hagler is a shit load stronger
Bottom line is Hatton weighed more in the ring with greater muscle mass and more natural at the weight, the reason Mayweather has slowed above 135 is because he's added unnatural/unfunctional muscle mass, ie a tad blown up at the weight. Anyone remember a video of the week before the Judah fight when Mayweather was eating crisps.
Oh and in terms of science fact - More weight = Greater Mass = Bigger
Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 06:10
by Dioufy
Hatton may weigh a bit more, but FMJ is the bigger man.
Just look at their natural fighting weights.
And the Pual William's comparison is a joke - he's a freaking freak.
Hatton and Mayweather are one division apart.
My opinion of course.

Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 09:49
by DG.
jeej wrote:DG, you've really gone down in my estimations over the past couple of months. You can be a bit of a dick mate.
I mean there are plenty of dicks on here (and also plenty of top people too), but I never had you down as one of the dicks, not until recently.
Hatton has the ability to shed a lot of weight and rehydrate, he is almost like a wrestler in that respect.
If you think that Floyd is bigger than Hatton then that is up to you, weight makes a big difference.
NATURALLY Hatton has the capacity to out on a shed load if weight, and his natural weight is more than Floyds natural weight.
No, no need to be abusive is there? Personally I could not give a flkying Kangaroo burger what you think, why woud I? Me know you?
NO.
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Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 09:50
by DG.
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Loynesy wrote:DG - posting a picture of Hatton sparko doesn't help your initial synopsis that he is bigger than Wayweather.
Nor does citing what happens post weigh-in. Last time I was dehydrated and drank water, I don't believe my height or reach improved...
I can agree that FMJ is the better fighter, indeed being ringside, from round 3 or 4 he was superb, but it is impossible, intellectually, to claim Hatton is bigger.
PL
NO! Mayweather has longer skeleton structure, Hatton has much more muscle mass and as a result has a strength advanatage, its similar to Lamotta-Robinson, Lamotta was 17lbs heavier in their first fight but Robinson taller/longer reach. Or Hagler-Hearns, Hearns has much greater reach/height but Hagler is a shit load stronger
Bottom line is Hatton weighed more in the ring with greater muscle mass and more natural at the weight, the reason Mayweather has slowed above 135 is because he's added unnatural/unfunctional muscle mass, ie a tad blown up at the weight. Anyone remember a video of the week before the Judah fight when Mayweather was eating crisps.
Oh and in terms of science fact - More weight = Greater Mass = Bigger
Case closed.
And thats why Paul Williams being taller and havign alonger reach STILL makes him smaller than Sprott etc.
Who said 'look at their natural fighting weights?
Floyd was a Superfeather who went up to Light Middle while weighing less on the night than most Light Welters weigh on the night.
A fighter at Light Middle weighing under 148 on the night is unheard of!
If PBF trained and drained he would be a friggin small Light Welter or a big Lightweight.
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Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 10:00
by J
why cos one person agrees with you while 17 dont....not even a hung jury mate at present let alone closed.
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you do make me larf th way you carry on about hatton weight draingin to make the weight likehe is the only peson in boxing ever to do it.
Honestly like my hair, its wearing a bit thin fella

Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 10:03
by DG.
J wrote:why ccos one persopn agrees with you while 17 dont....not even a hung jury mate at present let alone closed.
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J - it is a scientific fact.
I am right.
The jury has been sent home - case dismissed.
DG wins.
We all must know someone we are taller than but is naturally heavier set then we are?
Who is bigger?
Taller and bigger are not the same thing.
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Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 10:07
by J
haha poke your scientific fact up your non scientific arse hahah.............. scientific fact my hairy brown eye.
too funny.
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so who is bigger phil vickery at 6 foot and weighing 19 stone or simon shaw at 6.8 and weighting 19 stone.
answer Simon shaw.
Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 10:50
by DG.
J wrote:haha poke your scientific fact up your non scientific arse hahah.............. scientific fact my hairy brown eye.
too funny.
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so who is bigger phil vickery at 6 foot and weighing 19 stone or simon shaw at 6.8 and weighting 19 stone.
answer Simon shaw.
He is TALLER.
And most likely slimmer..

Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 10:51
by J
Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 10:51
by DG.
Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 12:53
by Dioufy
Hmmm, so one person out of fifthteen agrees with you and it's case closed?
Look at all the stats - the only thing Hatton has bigger are probably thighs - where most of the weight will be, in his legs.
On the whole, Floyd is bigger, and he's matured into a natural welterweight - it's now his natural fighting weight.
Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 13:02
by DG.
Dioufy wrote:Hmmm, so one person out of fifthteen agrees with you and it's case closed?
Look at all the stats - the only thing Hatton has bigger are probably thighs - where most of the weight will be, in his legs.
On the whole, Floyd is bigger, and he's matured into a natural welterweight - it's now his natural fighting weight.
The weights are after draining, PBF does not drain weight. Get it?
PBF matured into a natural welter?
Find me a natural welter that walks around at 150lbs and J will eat your hat!
PBF walk around at 150lbs - Hatton walks around over 177lbs...easily
Within 24 hours of Hatton training for 2 months to make weight at 140 or 147 he will be heavier than Mayweather has ever been in his life.
Hatton carries weight on his legs?

How much do you think he weighs there?
PBF does not CUT weight.
Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 13:04
by Dioufy
Because they live very different lives out of the ring - Floyd still goes to the gym even though he's retired. Hatton binges like feck.
Mayweather is the bigger man, Hatton may well be a touch heavier, but there's differences between heavier and bigger.
Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 13:05
by hitman_hatton1
DG. wrote:hitman_hatton1 wrote:J wrote:only in the fists and ankles.
good ownage that.

stick a fork in this one.
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Learn to post an image..
Hattons bigger but it did not help!
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not quite sure what went wrong there.
it was supposed to be a GIF of rafa benitez doing the game over signal that stoked up some controversy last week.
just didn't come up on this backwards forum.
back to doghouse at this rate ffs.

Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 13:08
by hitman_hatton1
i wasn't actually making any argument that size played such a huge part in the fight.
mayweather won fair and square on speed, skills & smarts moreso than size.
your just wrong about hatton being bigger.
but your always wrong anyway so nothing new there.

Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 15:46
by DG.
hitman_hatton1 wrote:
your just wrong about hatton being bigger.
Blinkered.
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Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 15:48
by DG.
Dioufy wrote:Because they live very different lives out of the ring - Floyd still goes to the gym even though he's retired. Hatton binges like feck.
Mayweather is the bigger man, Hatton may well be a touch heavier, but there's differences between heavier and bigger.
Reaching!
Hatton is bigger ( Mass), PBF is taller.
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Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 15:51
by DG.
Hatton is bigger. Case closed. Let it go. It's over.
DG.
Your King!

Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 15:56
by Asterix
hitman_hatton1 wrote:not quite sure what went wrong there.
it was supposed to be a GIF of rafa benitez doing the game over signal that stoked up some controversy last week.
just didn't come up on this backwards forum.
back to doghouse at this rate ffs.

Image shack won't work here. It was banned due to some guy posted gay porn pics.
Cue DG saying that it was either me, you or Dioufy.
Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 18:58
by jeej
DG. wrote:jeej wrote:DG, you've really gone down in my estimations over the past couple of months. You can be a bit of a dick mate.
I mean there are plenty of dicks on here (and also plenty of top people too), but I never had you down as one of the dicks, not until recently.
Hatton has the ability to shed a lot of weight and rehydrate, he is almost like a wrestler in that respect.
If you think that Floyd is bigger than Hatton then that is up to you, weight makes a big difference.
NATURALLY Hatton has the capacity to out on a shed load if weight, and his natural weight is more than Floyds natural weight.
No, no need to be abusive is there? Personally I could not give a flkying Kangaroo burger what you think, why woud I? Me know you?
NO.
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I'm not trying to suggest that you may actually care what I think, although some people actually are concerned about how others perceive them, I'm just putting it out there that you can be a bit of a dick. And I swear you never used to be.
Anyway, as for Hatton, I'll go back to my PBF example. Was Hatton able to physically impose himself on Floyd like he usually does on his opponents? No. Why was that? Maybe because Floyd was a bigger guy? Yes.
What else is there to be said?
Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 03:15
by DG.
jeej wrote:
I'm not trying to suggest that you may actually care what I think, although some people actually are concerned about how others perceive them, I'm just putting it out there that you can be a bit of a dick. And I swear you never used to be.
Anyway, as for Hatton, I'll go back to my PBF example. Was Hatton able to physically impose himself on Floyd like he usually does on his opponents? No. Why was that? Maybe because Floyd was a bigger guy? Yes.
What else is there to be said?
Strewth,stone the crows,
Relax, its a forum.
If there is something you do not like then do not comment!
Would you keep going back to a place where you did not have a good time? NO!
Fair Dinkum.

Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 04:09
by Dioufy
I think it's fair to assume that when it comes to Hatton, DG talks absolute nonsense.
Re: mayweathers back!!!!
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 04:47
by jeej
DG. wrote:jeej wrote:
I'm not trying to suggest that you may actually care what I think, although some people actually are concerned about how others perceive them, I'm just putting it out there that you can be a bit of a dick. And I swear you never used to be.
Anyway, as for Hatton, I'll go back to my PBF example. Was Hatton able to physically impose himself on Floyd like he usually does on his opponents? No. Why was that? Maybe because Floyd was a bigger guy? Yes.
What else is there to be said?
Strewth,stone the crows,
Relax, its a forum.
If there is something you do not like then do not comment!
Would you keep going back to a place where you did not have a good time? NO!
Fair Dinkum.

"If there is something you do not like then do not comment!" Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Practice as you preach, as they say!
Nice work with the Australian digs, even though I'm British as it says to the left there.
Anyway, forums are for discussion and debate, and most the time you get sound discussion in the Brit forum. Just certain characters buzzing about the place like to make it their personal mission to stir up a bit of controversy and act like a tool - wont mention any names, of course!
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