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Spud wrote:Hello Deserter,

To be honest whilst I think Cleverly is a talent - I do not see the point in Clinton fighting him - the maximum he would get offered is around £20k - £40k and that is top whack and Clinton does not need to get in the ring for that sort of money - it would take a serious 6 figure sum and lets face it that will not happen!!! - Even if that 6 figure sum was offered I believe I know Clinton and I still think he would turn it down.

Hello mate, have you got me confused with someone else? In my post all I did was say I agree with your comments - I didn't make any reference to Cleverley at all.

Deserter wrote:

Spud wrote:Hello Deserter,

To be honest whilst I think Cleverly is a talent - I do not see the point in Clinton fighting him - the maximum he would get offered is around £20k - £40k and that is top whack and Clinton does not need to get in the ring for that sort of money - it would take a serious 6 figure sum and lets face it that will not happen!!! - Even if that 6 figure sum was offered I believe I know Clinton and I still think he would turn it down.

Hello mate, have you got me confused with someone else? In my post all I did was say I agree with your comments - I didn't make any reference to Cleverley at all.

I was addressing the other rumours that have been going around - please accept the most humble of apologies!!!

Spud wrote:

Deserter wrote:

Spud wrote:Hello Deserter,

To be honest whilst I think Cleverly is a talent - I do not see the point in Clinton fighting him - the maximum he would get offered is around £20k - £40k and that is top whack and Clinton does not need to get in the ring for that sort of money - it would take a serious 6 figure sum and lets face it that will not happen!!! - Even if that 6 figure sum was offered I believe I know Clinton and I still think he would turn it down.

Hello mate, have you got me confused with someone else? In my post all I did was say I agree with your comments - I didn't make any reference to Cleverley at all.

I was addressing the other rumours that have been going around - please accept the most humble of apologies!!!

No worries fella

Who do you guys think Woods and Cloud should fight now

Woods- Cleverly great test for Clev and we will see if he is world class

Cloud- Someone like Pascal a tough fight against another good fighter

alexpaterson wrote:Who do you guys think Woods and Cloud should fight now

Woods- Cleverly great test for Clev and we will see if he is world class

Cloud- Someone like Pascal a tough fight against another good fighter

I agree with your fight choices.

How many more times does it have to be explained - as far as it is possible to tell - Clinton Woods will not fight at domestic level - it really is pointless to speculate otherwise - unless a very clear unequivocal statement comes out to the contrary!!!

Clinton Woods will not be fighting Nathan Cleverly - he will probably retire - he does not need money on offer for what will be a domestic bout.

Spud wrote:How many more times does it have to be explained - as far as it is possible to tell - Clinton Woods will not fight at domestic level - it really is pointless to speculate otherwise - unless a very clear unequivocal statement comes out to the contrary!!!

Clinton Woods will not be fighting Nathan Cleverly - he will probably retire - he does not need money on offer for what will be a domestic bout.

It could be a world title eliminator as well as a British, Commonwealth and possibly a European title fight.

Nathan Cleverly is currently ranked 6th with the WBO, 10th with the IBF, 11th with the WBC and 15th with the WBA. Clinton Woods is currently ranked 1 in the European rankings and Cleverly is ranked at 3.

In a few months time Cleverly could be ranked higher with these organizations, and Woods is likely to be ranked fairly high with some or all of the big four world bodies. A world title eliminator of some sort, a decent amount of money and a winnable fight might appeal to Woods.

Horse wrote:

Spud wrote:How many more times does it have to be explained - as far as it is possible to tell - Clinton Woods will not fight at domestic level - it really is pointless to speculate otherwise - unless a very clear unequivocal statement comes out to the contrary!!!

Clinton Woods will not be fighting Nathan Cleverly - he will probably retire - he does not need money on offer for what will be a domestic bout.

It could be a world title eliminator as well as a British, Commonwealth and possibly a European title fight.

Nathan Cleverly is currently ranked 6th with the WBO, 10th with the IBF, 11th with the WBC and 15th with the WBA. Clinton Woods is currently ranked 1 in the European rankings and Cleverly is ranked at 3.

In a few months time Cleverly could be ranked higher with these organizations, and Woods is likely to be ranked fairly high with some or all of the big four world bodies. A world title eliminator of some sort, a decent amount of money and a winnable fight might appeal to Woods.

I may be in the minority but I'm not sure Cleverly IS a winnable fight for Woods. Cloud had too much energy for Woods who, for me, would have beaten the hard-hitting though technically limited Cloud five years ago (i.e. the Woods of 5 years ago against the Cloud of last weekend). Cleverly has no discernible faults so far – sure, he's yet to operate beyond domestic level but last season he beat the No. 2 and No. 3 in his division and in emphatic style. He is strong, fit, throws lots of shots, is very tall for the weight, rangy, can punch, can take a shot and is adaptable. As he steps up in levels, hitherto unseen weaknesses may materialise but the Woods who lost – bravely, but clearly – to Cloud – who had yet to go beyond domestic level pre-Gonzalez – would lose to Cleverly.

Thought Woods won the European Title Ten years ago, surely thats beyond Domestic.