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J wrote:SPUD ME AND YOU ALWAYS GOT ON OK FELLA ON THIS BOARD.

but seriously either fuckin spill the beans or shut up will ya.

These constant titbits of info are like watching a porno with the naughty bits blacked out.

That is the way Spud rolls unfortunately. One of the worst posters to ever grace boxing forums. It's no wonder he's been banned from every other british forums he's been on. wont be long before he comes a cropper here too. Doesn't realize how much he pisses people off with his im-in-the-know posts.

Deno1986 wrote:Lirva is back again!

Bomber 1 wrote:Sorry to say but this is a terrible move by Ricky!! If he fights anyone half decent he's gonna get crushed!! He looks and lives more like a darts player than pro boxer!! The writing has been on the wall for the last 12 months!! He just needs to hang them up!! What else van he possibly achieve??

Bomber 1 wrote:

Deno1986 wrote:Lirva is back again!

Someone please tell me what or who Livra is PLEASE!!!

Deno1986 wrote:

Bomber 1 wrote:

Deno1986 wrote:Lirva is back again!

Someone please tell me what or who Livra is PLEASE!!!

He's a banned poster who comes back under different names [almost every week] to intentionally wind up certain people. No getting rid of him.

Spud wrote: You should really get your FACTS right - Poxon arrived late in the day with regards to training Clinton Woods - Clinton was already challenging for major honours before Poxon took over - Clinton's previous trainer was murdered in a massive domestic dispute concerning I believe his sexuality.

With regards to what went on within the Fight Academy team - you really do not have a clue - to be perfectly honest I only know a small fraction of what went on - I do know things were not right for the Tarver fight - the lead up to that fight Clinton was unhappy with sparring partners and a number of logistical points concerning gyms and conditions right up to and during the days leading up to the fight in America - there was friction even before that within the camp and even I noticed things were not right on a trip to Jersey where Clinton and Richard were not even on speaking terms.

Who is to blame for the friction naturally that is wide open for opinion - however what I will say is Clinton is a top man and he is not the sort to fall out with people unless he feels something major is up.

Bomber 1 wrote:What else can he possibly achieve??

leforge wrote:I still he can beat most of the following ibo top ten lightwelters:

http://www.iboboxing.com/rankings/140.html

Spud wrote:

stujones wrote:Well I don't know the ins and out, and I don't particularly want to know - However, I think its a little bit harsh if Clinton is slagging off Richard Poxon now. Sure, it does sound like the ended on bad terms - but he trained a guy, who has admitted being not the most talented naturally, to British, Commonwealth, European and proper World honours..... thats not bad. I just hope Clinton will take the problems he had at the end of his career, when he was approaching his late 30's and leave a mark on what the TEAM achieved for the most part.

Personally, I don't think Hatton will employ Poxon as his full time coach. I think he will want him to focus on his match making - which is a new venture for him, for a new promotional company (and what a fine job he is doing so far). I could see him working alongside another coach - alot will depend on where the fight/s will take place.

You should really get your FACTS right - Poxon arrived late in the day with regards to training Clinton Woods - Clinton was already challenging for major honours before Poxon took over - Clinton's previous trainer was murdered in a massive domestic dispute concerning I believe his sexuality.

With regards to what went on within the Fight Academy team - you really do not have a clue - to be perfectly honest I only know a small fraction of what went on - I do know things were not right for the Tarver fight - the lead up to that fight Clinton was unhappy with sparring partners and a number of logistical points concerning gyms and conditions right up to and during the days leading up to the fight in America - there was friction even before that within the camp and even I noticed things were not right on a trip to Jersey where Clinton and Richard were not even on speaking terms.

Well said Spud Clinton is a gentleman It wasnt just Clinton that outed Poxon also Femi Femintola said he wasnt a good trainer Now Femi is with Joe Gallagher he knows even more how bad he Poxon was

Who is to blame for the friction naturally that is wide open for opinion - however what I will say is Clinton is a top man and he is not the sort to fall out with people unless he feels something major is up.

princess wrote:

Spud wrote:

stujones wrote:Well I don't know the ins and out, and I don't particularly want to know - However, I think its a little bit harsh if Clinton is slagging off Richard Poxon now. Sure, it does sound like the ended on bad terms - but he trained a guy, who has admitted being not the most talented naturally, to British, Commonwealth, European and proper World honours..... thats not bad. I just hope Clinton will take the problems he had at the end of his career, when he was approaching his late 30's and leave a mark on what the TEAM achieved for the most part.

Personally, I don't think Hatton will employ Poxon as his full time coach. I think he will want him to focus on his match making - which is a new venture for him, for a new promotional company (and what a fine job he is doing so far). I could see him working alongside another coach - alot will depend on where the fight/s will take place.

As for being a good matchmaker Dont make me laugh I,ll could match any show in the world just phone Phillip Fondu He will do all the work match the fighters and gives you a cut for getting him the work laugh Phillip is one of the best out there
He has helped me out a few times
Look at the Hatton shows and count how many of Phillips imports have been used since Poxon Got the job. When there of plenty of UK boxers that would have taken the job CHEAPER But 3 imports per show wonder what the Commission is on that LOL


You should really get your FACTS right - Poxon arrived late in the day with regards to training Clinton Woods - Clinton was already challenging for major honours before Poxon took over - Clinton's previous trainer was murdered in a massive domestic dispute concerning I believe his sexuality.

With regards to what went on within the Fight Academy team - you really do not have a clue - to be perfectly honest I only know a small fraction of what went on - I do know things were not right for the Tarver fight - the lead up to that fight Clinton was unhappy with sparring partners and a number of logistical points concerning gyms and conditions right up to and during the days leading up to the fight in America - there was friction even before that within the camp and even I noticed things were not right on a trip to Jersey where Clinton and Richard were not even on speaking terms.

Well said Spud Clinton is a gentleman It wasnt just Clinton that outed Poxon also Femi Femintola said he wasnt a good trainer Now Femi is with Joe Gallagher he knows even more how bad he Poxon was

Who is to blame for the friction naturally that is wide open for opinion - however what I will say is Clinton is a top man and he is not the sort to fall out with people unless he feels something major is up.

stujones wrote:

Spud wrote: You should really get your FACTS right - Poxon arrived late in the day with regards to training Clinton Woods - Clinton was already challenging for major honours before Poxon took over - Clinton's previous trainer was murdered in a massive domestic dispute concerning I believe his sexuality.

With regards to what went on within the Fight Academy team - you really do not have a clue - to be perfectly honest I only know a small fraction of what went on - I do know things were not right for the Tarver fight - the lead up to that fight Clinton was unhappy with sparring partners and a number of logistical points concerning gyms and conditions right up to and during the days leading up to the fight in America - there was friction even before that within the camp and even I noticed things were not right on a trip to Jersey where Clinton and Richard were not even on speaking terms.

Who is to blame for the friction naturally that is wide open for opinion - however what I will say is Clinton is a top man and he is not the sort to fall out with people unless he feels something major is up.

When did I "try" to declare I had a clue??? When did I say anything of the bust up. All I said was, I don't think Clinton should slag off a coach who helped him win the ultimate prize in sport. Even if they are on bad terms now, Clinton should still say "well okay things went very sour, but we did have some good times".

Ricky and Billy are not on good terms and I didn't like how Ricky never publically told Floyd Snr to pack it in (hated that infact) - however, Ricky never publically was critical of Billy's abilities.... well his "team" were publically criticical if he could STILL do it - but nobody said he couldn't train in his pomp.

Although I quoted your post, it was more a response to Jane's earlier "ask Clinton" post about Richard. Jane's post wasn't about Poxon's personality, Poxon's loyality (or lack of to fight academy) or any other conflict of interest he had - it was about his ability as a trainer (Poxon couldn't train a dog). Maybe Clinton doesn't say negative things about Poxon's ability, but the it certainly implies that it does.

If this is not the case, and its just a bit of a "wind up" by Jane then I applogise to Clinton.

I only hope when more "settled" in retirement (time's a great healer, its still fresh) Richard and Clinton (and Dennis) can share a few beers over the great ride they had.... same applies for Ricky, Matthew, Kerry, Billy, Ray and the rest of the old "team Hatton".

princess wrote:

stujones wrote:

Spud wrote: You should really get your FACTS right - Poxon arrived late in the day with regards to training Clinton Woods - Clinton was already challenging for major honours before Poxon took over - Clinton's previous trainer was murdered in a massive domestic dispute concerning I believe his sexuality.

With regards to what went on within the Fight Academy team - you really do not have a clue - to be perfectly honest I only know a small fraction of what went on - I do know things were not right for the Tarver fight - the lead up to that fight Clinton was unhappy with sparring partners and a number of logistical points concerning gyms and conditions right up to and during the days leading up to the fight in America - there was friction even before that within the camp and even I noticed things were not right on a trip to Jersey where Clinton and Richard were not even on speaking terms.

Who is to blame for the friction naturally that is wide open for opinion - however what I will say is Clinton is a top man and he is not the sort to fall out with people unless he feels something major is up.

When did I "try" to declare I had a clue??? When did I say anything of the bust up. All I said was, I don't think Clinton should slag off a coach who helped him win the ultimate prize in sport. Even if they are on bad terms now, Clinton should still say "well okay things went very sour, but we did have some good times".

Ricky and Billy are not on good terms and I didn't like how Ricky never publically told Floyd Snr to pack it in (hated that infact) - however, Ricky never publically was critical of Billy's abilities.... well his "team" were publically criticical if he could STILL do it - but nobody said he couldn't train in his pomp.

Although I quoted your post, it was more a response to Jane's earlier "ask Clinton" post about Richard. Jane's post wasn't about Poxon's personality, Poxon's loyality (or lack of to fight academy) or any other conflict of interest he had - it was about his ability as a trainer (Poxon couldn't train a dog). Maybe Clinton doesn't say negative things about Poxon's ability, but the it certainly implies that it does.

If this is not the case, and its just a bit of a "wind up" by Jane then I applogise to Clinton.

I only hope when more "settled" in retirement (time's a great healer, its still fresh) Richard and Clinton (and Dennis) can share a few beers over the great ride they had.... same applies for Ricky, Matthew, Kerry, Billy, Ray and the rest of the old "team Hatton".

Stu I was just saying what Clinton and Femi have said He is a poop trainer He might be a nice person and all that poop but he is a poop trainer If you are a SHIT promoter trainer fighter whatever Thats what you are I,m not winding anybody up I,m just saying what people have told me I couldnt give a fu*k what you or anybody thinks i just say the truth Read Clintons interview in boxing news about what he thinks Or are you another expert who hasnt got a clue I have been a promoter for 7 years and i dont think in 31 shows any fighter that i have had on my shows can say a bad thing about meSo if thats right I cant be too bad at my job

Spud wrote:J,

It is well documented as many will tell you on here - Fight Academy did not capitilise on the FACT they had one of the world's most popular fighters signed to the promotional firm.

With regards to the "nitty gritty" details - I am stupid - not that stupid!!!

I think Poxon or lets go for another wild guess - Adam Booth could train Hatton - problem is with Booth he might ask for a little too much money unless there is a partnership with David Haye going on - Haye is going to fight in the UK - will it be on a Hatton/Golden Boy show?

Smigga wrote: Most people know more "inside info" than you do Spud, they just choose not to air it like they're in a launderette

stujones wrote:I only hope when more "settled" in retirement (time's a great healer, its still fresh) Richard and Clinton (and Dennis) can share a few beers over the great ride they had.... same applies for Ricky, Matthew, Kerry, Billy, Ray and the rest of the old "team Hatton".