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It took him a few years to get that shot, you really think he'll get another one?

Marlin wrote:It took him a few years to get that shot, you really think he'll get another one?

The way the WBA operates makes anything possible. John Ruiz seemed to get title shot after title shot without winning, but the WBA doesn't seem to have such a big crush on Meehan. They ignored him after he beat Williamson and now that he has been dominated in an eliminator I doubt he will have a fight on the world stage ever again. Maybe Arreola will use him as a comeback opponent? That is the best he can hope for in my opinion when it comes to future match ups.

Frustrating fight to watch. Kali allowed Ruslan to close the gap too easliy and get in range. One thing was very odd though. At the end of the 10th or 11th Kali landed a great shot that rocked Ruslan. he walked uneasy back to his corner, but Meehans corner did not mention how hurt Ruslan was. At the start of the following round. ruslan did nothing for about 30 seconds....unfortunately neither did Kali.

yes ruslan was in a fair bit of bother. meehan should have pounced on him. but chagaev was given time to recover.

It was a boring fight no real 'here we go' moments. Very dissapointing outing from Kali wont be watching him or supporting him anymore.

Dont be surprised if we dont see Meehan against a decent opponent in a long time.

Ruslan boringly boxed well and I had him beating up Kali throughout the rounds as well.

meehan did not get beat up. ruslan was dissapointing too. i think both fighters would be critical of their performances too. in their defence they had been off for a fair while and it showed.

considering that meehan didn't use much attack and not a big amount of defense either i think it showed that with an improved effort meehan can still perform at that level. mainly because i don't believe chagaev ever looked like ko'ing meehan. and the few times meehan stepped up his attack he looked capable of hurting chagaev.

meehan's fitness would be improved greatly from going the distance and i think u will see a marked improvement if he fights again reasonably soon.

buster007 wrote:meehan did not get beat up. ruslan was dissapointing too. i think both fighters would be critical of their performances too. in their defence they had been off for a fair while and it showed.

considering that meehan didn't use much attack and not a big amount of defense either i think it showed that with an improved effort meehan can still perform at that level. mainly because i don't believe chagaev ever looked like ko'ing meehan. and the few times meehan stepped up his attack he looked capable of hurting chagaev.

meehan's fitness would be improved greatly from going the distance and i think u will see a marked improvement if he fights again reasonably soon.

"A marked improvement"? Would he win four rounds in a rematch, then?

Chagaev looked like the puncher in there for the majority of it, & his superior defence nullified Kali's work. Every time Chagaev landed that left hand Meehan cringed & buckled. Meehan's inability to throw a left hook to the head cost him, though he did some good work to the body. I just thought it exposed his technical limitations more than anything, in that he couldn't "get to" Chagaev when he needed to & couldn't keep him off when required.

when he would let his punches go more he easily kept chagaev at bay, it's just he never had the confidence to do so often. meehans punches were the heavier when he tried. but he was trying to be too passive and when he threw most of his shots he was allowing chagaev too much space, hence chagaev was easily able to defend himself for the majority of the fight. meehan was far too tentitive and lacked conviction and confidence.

his ring rust affected him badly and he seemed like a fighter who needed the run so to speak.

Brute wrote:

funso banjo baby wrote:meehan never had the firepower to trouble a top heavyweight

could be the end at his age but maybe a return with Okhello

Ishimaru wants revenge

Okhello could not beat time with a stick. Go suck some volcano ash.

Woah, that really got him told.

I've eaten worse

you shouldnt joke about the volcano ash ! several people were late for work.

funso banjo baby wrote:you shouldnt joke about the volcano ash ! several people were late for work.

you can swim in it for all I care, you troll.

Why does being a fan of a fighter make him a troll?

I agree his love for Okhello is a little unorthodox, as are his predictions as to what Okhello can do, but so be it. If supporting a boxer and going against conventional opinion in saying that boxer could beat another one widely considered to be his superior makes someone a troll, then the majority of this board are trolls.

It wasn't so long ago that Meehan was being trumpeted as a David Haye conqueror on this board, and any non-Aussie who had the audacity to point out his thrashings at the hands of Williams and Rahman were called, yes, trolls.

So, "Meehan can beat Haye" = not a troll, but "Okhekllo can beat Meehan" = troll?

Consistency, that's all I ask.

To Meehan, I like the guy. Big, powerful and (usually) exciting. But I think we can safely say we know his level now. He has ONE good night against Brewster, and fair play for that, but besides that, he's lost clearly enough, and enough times, at world level to confirm where he stands.

That's not hate, that's not trolling, that's sober assessment.

Lost easily to Williams.
Lost easily to Rahman.
Lost easily to Chagaev.

And people are still talking about him having potential if he can be busy. The guy is 40!

Again, I like the guy, and I was rooting for him in this fight, because I feel bad for his inactivity and for how the WBA has messed him around. But this was his last chance - and it was a good chance - for him to hit the world stage, but ultimately, he couldn't do it.

*shields up*

he comes back from 2 years of inactivity, is 40yo and was gassed fairly early and won a few rounds against a guy who really should be a current world champ ( he was robbed against valuev ) and took chagaevs best punches and never looked like getting ko'd, not to mention that meehans best rounds were from round 7 onwards, so all in all i think he performed reasonably well.

i would love to see how he performed if he'd had a couple of tough 8 rounders under his belt recently. it would have been a very different fight i'm sure.

but to meehans credit, he simply said he tried the best he could under the circumstances but chagaev was the better fighter on the day.

Yes, fair enough. Chagaev wasn't at his best though, either - inactive for 10 months, coming off a hard loss and been plagued with injuries in recent years. As for Kali going the distance, well Chagaev isn't a puncher like Rahman, Williams (or, indeed, Brewster). But yes, fair play to him for performing creditably despite the drawbacks of his age and activity level.

Chagaev should be champ? Not really. I know he didn't lose the title in the ring, but in an ideal world his fight with Klitschko would have been a unification match.

Who did Chagaev get robbed by? I thought it was pretty conclusive that Klitchko smashed him.

u never knew chagaev fought valuev huh?

i assume chagaev only fought wlad because he had little choice. valuev was playing silly buggers and it was going to be by far his best payday considering he didn't have the wba belt anymore. if he was still the belt holder i don't believe he would have risked fighting wlad. it would have been far safer to keep defending his belt instead. make good money fighting inferior opposition.

of course it doesn't change anything now though.

He's a troll, the same as you are, because he comes on here with the sole purpose of annoying us. Most of what he says is gibberish to bait us into reacting. You are not even a particularly good troll, just a sad little man who probably really thinks he is superior.

Marlin wrote:He's a troll, the same as you are, because he comes on here with the sole purpose of annoying us. Most of what he says is gibberish to bait us into reacting. You are not even a particularly good troll, just a sad little man who probably really thinks he is superior.

Why don't I go to any other board with "the sole purpose of annoying" then?

Do you honestly not see any validity whatsoever in the points non-Aussies make here?

Why does FBB supporting Okhello upset you so much? Simply because Okhello is an Asia-Pacific boxer and, as such, FBB roots for him to beat other guys in that region?

Honestly, if the opinion that Meehan could beat Haye was expressed anywhere else on the internet but this board, people there would say it was the work of trolls.

We're all boxing fans and as such we have our likes and dislikes. Brits go on the Current Scene and praise or criticise American boxers as they see fit. They criticise their own where appropriate. Non-Brits can criticise Brits on the Brit board, and while they naturally may be met with opposition, they're not going to get lablled "trolls". It's taken in the spirit intended - boxing discussion.

Honestly, I wish I had nothing better to do with my time than think "hey, high on today's agenda is piss off a bunch of Aussie blokes who I don't know and who I don't even know the real names of", but it ain't like that. I come to the Aussie board because - and SHOCK, here's a positive comment -it is relevant to international boxing. If I was a troll, why wouldn't I go to the boards that attract more than three nations and start posting contentious stuff there? Where is the evidence of me going on to any other board with "the sole intention of annoying" anyone? Ask yourself why I come under fire here and not elsewhere? I mean, it couldn''t POSSIBLY be the fault of anyone here, could it?

As it is, I comment on Meehan-Chagaev and give Meehan credit for an earnest effort, but point out the entirely, based on the evidence, fair comment that, with three clear losses at world level and at age 40, he probably isn;t going to develop into a world-level force. I think anywhere else in cyberspace, that would be consider "fair comment", not "trolling".

As for FBB, his support of Okhello would probably considered eccentric at worst, and after all, you guys always say you should be free to support your boxers even if their limitations are understood. So, it's OK to support Colin Wilson (which it is), but supporting Okhello is "trolling"?

It would be nice if you answered any of my points, but please, by all means feel free to live down to my expectations and simply tell me to fck off, call me names, or, better still - as is usually your style when I make valid points - ignore this post completely.

fvck em Ollie they are still sore bout the cricket

i was there.

Khan vs St Clair - Khan wins. No Brits come over here to cause trouble or gloat.
Katsidis vs Mitchell - Katsidis wins. http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 8#p2450298

VERY FEW ARE GRACIOUS IN DEAFEAT OR VICTORY IM AFRAID ASTERIX.

mind you nor am I if you cvant beat em join em...

Dame edna everage, Rolf Harris, Stevie Irwin, Skipping the feckin Kangaroo your boys took a hell of a beating

CHAMPIONS CHAMPIONS ...........hehehehe.

J wrote:VERY FEW ARE GRACIOUS IN DEAFEAT OR VICTORY IM AFRAID ASTERIX.

mind you nor am I if you cvant beat em join em...

Dame edna everage, Rolf Harris, Stevie Irwin, Skipping the feckin Kangaroo your boys took a hell of a beating

CHAMPIONS CHAMPIONS ...........hehehehe.

it's skippy, smoky...not skipping. Well done you've now won 2 world cups in sport since 1966, and might i add they were both against Australia .

2003 rugby world cup
2010 20/20 cricket

Maybe you guys can stop saying that Briton only follows Soccer/Futbol now that you guys are having a few wins here and there.

Asterix wrote:Khan vs St Clair - Khan wins. No Brits come over here to cause trouble or gloat.
Katsidis vs Mitchell - Katsidis wins. http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 8#p2450298

Asterix, you do remember a fair few Brits coming on our boards saying Katsidis doesn't have a chance against Mitchell, and we had to endure ludicrous comments that Mitchell was the betting favorite.

Asterix your a Brit, and yet you come here without being berrated....why is that?

Oliver, if i remember correctly you have warmed to most on the board, why fight FBB fight, it's up to him to add to the forum, if he's constantly shown the door, it's up to him to work that out, not you.

Do i really have to spend all morning searching thru old threads to prove that most Brits come here purely for shiit stir?

Hounddawg wrote:

Asterix wrote:Khan vs St Clair - Khan wins. No Brits come over here to cause trouble or gloat.
Katsidis vs Mitchell - Katsidis wins. http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 8#p2450298

Asterix, you do remember a fair few Brits coming on our boards saying Katsidis doesn't have a chance against Mitchell, and we had to endure ludicrous comments that Mitchell was the betting favorite.

Asterix your a Brit, and yet you come here without being berrated....why is that?

Oliver, if i remember correctly you have warmed to most on the board, why fight FBB fight, it's up to him to add to the forum, if he's constantly shown the door, it's up to him to work that out, not you.

Do i really have to spend all morning searching thru old threads to prove that most Brits come here purely for shiit stir?

You guys are fine with me because I show you respect, and vice versa. I guess I just wanted to show that there's good and bad from both sides. It was a bit of a non-post from me, to be honest.