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Good, I'm glad you broke down. You were boring me anyway. I should know better than to even bother with a child claiming to be making $1,200 as an opponent for a pro debut. You're better off with your video games.

Wlad is the man little buddy. I don't want to smash the dreams of a child.

I also think Wlad beats Young head to head, but I'd still rank Young higher historically but in his brief peak he beat much better comp than Wlad has ever fought.

Young was definitely better than Byrd . . .for starters he was a natural heavyweight and not a blown-up light heavyweight who ate his way above 200 lbs. Young was surprisingly a big guy . . look at him next to Norton in their pre-fight staredown. Young was a big guy and Young frame-wise is just as big.

That said, Wlad has the patience and style to give Young fits. Vitali is a different story . . I think a Byrd taking the fight on short notice fought a very competitive fight with Vitali before the stoppage, winning 3 rounds and others were fairly close. Wlad with his style is much better vs the light-punching slickers than the slower, more akward Vitali.

HomicideHenry wrote: AND WHEN I AM RIGHT COLLINS, YOU WILL APOLOGISE TO ME!

Big talk, Rufus. And totally unconvincing. As we all know that whenever you are proven to be completely wrong you disappear for 3 months.

I know all I need to know about your skills in calling a fight from when you started that rubbish about how Paul Sykes wasn't being overwhelmed by John L Gardner and was merely turning to look at his corner when Gibbs stopped the fight. Right there and then I knew you were either blind or had no idea what is happening in a fight.

And didn't I predict you wouldn't be having a fight this month? Or any other month for that matter. But I'll save that for another day, big man.

Collins2000 wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote: AND WHEN I AM RIGHT COLLINS, YOU WILL APOLOGISE TO ME!

Big talk, Rufus. And totally unconvincing. As we all know that whenever you are proven to be completely wrong you disappear for 3 months.

I know all I need to know about your skills in calling a fight from when you started that rubbish about how Paul Sykes wasn't being overwhelmed by John L Gardner and was merely turning to look at his corner when Gibbs stopped the fight. Right there and then I knew you were either blind or had no idea what is happening in a fight.

And didn't I predict you wouldn't be having a fight this month? Or any other month for that matter. But I'll save that for another day, big man.

$1,200 as a punching bag for a pro debut shows he hasn't even done any research for his lies.

MICHAEL FINNEY WAS SIGNED BY FUCKIN TOP RANK UNDER BOB ARUM YOU MORONS! THEY WERE OFFERING $1,200 AND I ACCEPTED TO DO SO, BUT THE SHOW GOT CANCELLED! FINNEY WAS NATIONAL GOLDEN GLOVES CHAMPION IN HIS WEIGHT CLASS AND HAD OVER 80 BOUTS!

No

Oh, dear.

TBCB has Wlad losing every fight, though more competitive in some than expected:

George Foreman TKO3 Wladimir Klitschko

Evander Holyfield UD15 Wladimir Klitschko - close decision

Mike Tyson TKO6 Wladimir Klitschko - Tyson down in round 4

Larry Holmes DQ13 Wladimir Klitschko - Holmes down in round 9 but well ahead on points

Muhammad Ali KO14 Wladimir Klitschko - Close on scorecards

Sonny Liston KO6 Wladimir Klitschko - Liston down in round 5

Floyd Patterson TKO6 Wladimir Klitschko

Rocky Marciano KO5 Wladimir Klitschko