CRINGEWORTHY....

[damianhucker1]

as an example of what i posted above ^ if the tickets were say £40 each (thats an example , i dont know how much they were) he said he sold 500 , so that would be £20,000 , he only gets a cut of that , plus would be needing to pay opponent too , plus warren would have all his costs to pay like the venue hire and officials , referee , ring girls etc , i would guess 5k was pretty close to what hed get . maybe warren pays him extra i dont know , but speaking as a promotor , theres no way he was getting 50k for that . no way .

There is no way our only Olympic champion is on a ticket money deal!Hes not unlicensed mate.He will have been on over 50k last night.It will have taken a huge contract to get him to sign on the dotted line

i fully appreciate what your saying , but you have to realise its a business , if warren was splashing out paying everyone x amount of money plus all his overheads and not thinking about wether ticket sales covered it and tv money , there would be no boxing , as everyone would be broke .
he maywell be on more than just tickets , he may have signed a large contract , but ill be very surprised if he got 50k for last night . bear in mind his opponent would have been on maybe £1200 too if that, it all adds up .

[damianhucker1]

seems im in the minority on here , i like the kid , i think hes got a personality that will appeal to casual fans too .
i even think hes bloody ring entrance music is catchy , i found myself whistling it a few days ago , took me a minutte to realise what i was whistling.

What a muppet

hows that make me a muppet , it makes me not afraid to say what i think .
the chances are you think the same but are too much of a cvunt to admit it , sheep factor . i say whaty the eff what i want , always have always will , im not some little dickhead , and dont give a monkeys what you think ,
dont call me a muppet , im not the one that think doing karate makes me hard , who the muppet.

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

I disagree. Jason Lee chose that haircut. People are born with ginger hair, in the same way people are born black, white, with down syndrome etc etc...

It is a form of prejudice that people seem to get away with. There are kids across the country who are bullied relentlessly for it and it is out of order, in my opinion. It is easy for us who have not been on the receiving end to say it is something and nothing but were the boot to be on the other foot, I would say it could be hurtful if you were a bit sensitive. It definitely gives lots of red-headed people a complex.

It maybe a form of prejudice but it is not as serious as racism - sorry - its not! Ginger people haven't been denied the right to vote, been lynched, been enslaved, been maltreated - even on their own continent - even today as you get up - there is a political party in our country with a lot of support who want - no, not ginger people - but black people deported if they get into power.

It is typical of someone who wants to belittle racism by equating it with 'gingerism' I am not saying it is pleasant and if you take a look at my username - being called Carlos in a playground in Wigan wasn't a cup of tea either. But lets get it right - calling someone a 'ginger' whatever is not the equivalent to a racist insult - its not.

I can't believe i'm going to ask this.......What continent dumbass do ginger people inhabit?

Well, I take it as Europe you thick pudendum! Unless the Incas or the Chinese or the tribes of the Congo had ginger people amongst their populations.

[gasman]

I think that having an extravagant entrance if you are still an unproven prospect on an undercard is not a good idea - save it until you are headlining a bill. Probably the most embarrassing part of these unwarranted extravagant entrances is when they get into the ring and salute the crowd to stony silence.

[mickey1975]

as an example of what i posted above ^ if the tickets were say £40 each (thats an example , i dont know how much they were) he said he sold 500 , so that would be £20,000 , he only gets a cut of that , plus would be needing to pay opponent too , plus warren would have all his costs to pay like the venue hire and officials , referee , ring girls etc , i would guess 5k was pretty close to what hed get . maybe warren pays him extra i dont know , but speaking as a promotor , theres no way he was getting 50k for that . no way .

There is no way our only Olympic champion is on a ticket money deal!Hes not unlicensed mate.He will have been on over 50k last night.It will have taken a huge contract to get him to sign on the dotted line

i fully appreciate what your saying , but you have to realise its a business , if warren was splashing out paying everyone x amount of money plus all his overheads and not thinking about wether ticket sales covered it and tv money , there would be no boxing , as everyone would be broke .
he maywell be on more than just tickets , he may have signed a large contract , but ill be very surprised if he got 50k for last night . bear in mind his opponent would have been on maybe £1200 too if that, it all adds up .

He is in it for the long hall with Degale.He will have been on over 50k last night and his opponent around 5k.I dont know for sure,but i think im a lot nearer than you with this estimate

[tannervegas]

Degale's entrance was appalling. But someone needs to have a word with Cleverly as well. Those headbands are shocking and that music he walks into the ring with is well gay.

[JamesH]

It’s funny how people want to comment on how a fighter acts before and after a fight, when all that should matter is how they perform. Personally I think Degale is a very good prospect.

With the greatest respect Ricardo, that's a somewhat naive viewpoint. Personalities matter tremendously in terms of generating support - you only have to look at Hatton's success to see that.
It's a natural human condition to be affected by an individual based on your assessment of their personality - it happens in every walk of life.

There's a side of De Gale that should be portrayed more clearly, last night he couldn't have made more time for the young fans and he was polite and chatty to everyone who wanted a word/pic/autograph. Watching the interview when I got home it was like a different bloke.

[Pat Butcher]

Personally found the entrance cringeworthy. The missus was sat with me and also thought he was being a tit (in his post fight interview also). That said I actually quite like him and he did look good in the ring. Definaely got good speed and power, can see him going a long way, past British level.

People in this country moan about how too PC we are getting and then we get people comparing ginger comments with racism ffs!

[MrBoxingUK2]

Degale's entrance was appalling. But someone needs to have a word with Cleverly as well. Those headbands are shocking and that music he walks into the ring with is well gay.

it's not that bad. clev is the man!

[jamesmcdonnell]

seems im in the minority on here , i like the kid , i think hes got a personality that will appeal to casual fans too .
i even think hes bloody ring entrance music is catchy , i found myself whistling it a few days ago , took me a minutte to realise what i was whistling.

What a muppet

What's wrong with that, 'party hard' is a cracking tune, was dancing to it in a club a few weeks back myself. Nowt wrong with the tune, but the entrace absolutely sucked, it was cringeworthy and sounded totally shyte.

[alexpaterson]

It wasn't the best ring entrance. I was impressed with his performance though, he still slaps sometimes.

[damianhucker1]

is it me or has the other de gale thread gone / ive been out with the missus all day so has something happened that i missed .

[whiskey]

yeah i know of him , aint his gym part of body and soul gym with roger brotherhood .
the one i help at is in an industrial estate in creswell , virtually on the border or masfield and worksop , about 8 miles ish from shirebrook

i co promoted the show roger did at the swan in mansfield , there was a walker involved in that one but dont think his name was russ

yep, that was Russell.

I'm from Ollerton, about 10 mins from your place.

Never even knew they did any training up there mate, is there a website ?

[hurlock]

gomez does his training on line

[damianhucker1]

yeah i know of him , aint his gym part of body and soul gym with roger brotherhood .
the one i help at is in an industrial estate in creswell , virtually on the border or masfield and worksop , about 8 miles ish from shirebrook

i co promoted the show roger did at the swan in mansfield , there was a walker involved in that one but dont think his name was russ

yep, that was Russell.

I'm from Ollerton, about 10 mins from your place.

Never even knew they did any training up there mate, is there a website ?

no mate , its only a farty little thing , but theres nothing else local so only place for the kids , the guy who owns it is looking at some other premises so should be moved into somewhere bigger in summer hopefully .
it aint a patch on body and soul .

ollerton , i had a few lads come up from there on my first show , self trained , thought they was the bollocks and all 3 got stopped in first round . dont think any of them are originally from ollerton though , there names are josh harrison , tom welland and karl reddy . what made it worse for them was in a female fight i had same night , i had a pullout on the day and got a last minutte atand in , again from ollerton , and she won on no notice , so they felt right plonks lol

[Ally-M1]

It wasn't the best ring entrance. I was impressed with his performance though, he still slaps sometimes.

I was thinking much and such the same... Not a great entrance but a good performance.

His lame entrance aside (though it doesn't affect me in any great way), his performance was impressive - he looks good and will iron out a few flaws like his occaisional slapping quickly.

DeGale vs Groves would have me hooked!

[teddy007]

seems im in the minority on here , i like the kid , i think hes got a personality that will appeal to casual fans too .
i even think hes bloody ring entrance music is catchy , i found myself whistling it a few days ago , took me a minutte to realise what i was whistling.

What a muppet

hows that make me a muppet , it makes me not afraid to say what i think .
the chances are you think the same but are too much of a cvunt to admit it , sheep factor . i say whaty the eff what i want , always have always will , im not some little dickhead , and dont give a monkeys what you think ,
dont call me a muppet , im not the one that think doing karate makes me hard , who the muppet.

when have I ever said that? You muppet.

[15829]

i wouldnt no who to pick between groves v degale, great fight when it happens

[damianhucker1]

There is no way our only Olympic champion is on a ticket money deal!Hes not unlicensed mate.He will have been on over 50k last night.It will have taken a huge contract to get him to sign on the dotted line

i fully appreciate what your saying , but you have to realise its a business , if warren was splashing out paying everyone x amount of money plus all his overheads and not thinking about wether ticket sales covered it and tv money , there would be no boxing , as everyone would be broke .
he maywell be on more than just tickets , he may have signed a large contract , but ill be very surprised if he got 50k for last night . bear in mind his opponent would have been on maybe £1200 too if that, it all adds up .

He is in it for the long hall with Degale.He will have been on over 50k last night and his opponent around 5k.I dont know for sure,but i think im a lot nearer than you with this estimate

even if your right about de gale , i dont think the opponent would have been close to 5k , but hey we could go round on this all day , in fact i think i have been since last night .
i know a few pros who dont get a grand after a dozen fights .
i may be wrong so dont quote me on this but i vaguely remember billy bessey saying on here once that other than prizefighter his best purse was £700 , as i said i might be well off the mark but im fairly sure he said something to that effect .

what i do know is that a half descent white collar fighter earns more than probably a mid level pro . some people might think thats a sad state of affairs but its fact .
i had a guy earn £1200 on his first fight at white collar , no am experience or anything . when i told a pro whos name i wont mention on here , he said friggin hell i wouldnt mind some of that , of course he couldnt , being pro , but it makes a point that he wasnt on as much .

[mickey1975]

Ask the people in the know on here and i bet im not far out with 5k gross for Barr last night.What he gets in other fights is irrelevant and will be a lot less.He was boxing an Olympic champ live on a Sky show.David Bailey got 5k five years ago for facing Khan in his debut.

[bigdaddy]

Ask the people in the know on here and i bet im not far out with 5k gross for Barr last night.What he gets in other fights is irrelevant and will be a lot less.He was boxing an Olympic champ live on a Sky show.David Bailey got 5k five years ago for facing Khan in his debut.

Mickey, do you agree that James DeGale (through no fault of his own) is not as well known as Audley Harrison or Amir Khan were at this stage in their careers? Likewise, following his victory in China, do you agree that again (through no fault of his own) James DeGale did not get as much public exposure as Audley or Amir?

I believe that this will have had a significant impact on both his contract and what opponents are paid to fight him. I may be wrong; but I doubt it.

I would say Groves.....and jeffreys are more well Known then Degale who looked a big tit last night

[mickey1975]

Ask the people in the know on here and i bet im not far out with 5k gross for Barr last night.What he gets in other fights is irrelevant and will be a lot less.He was boxing an Olympic champ live on a Sky show.David Bailey got 5k five years ago for facing Khan in his debut.

Mickey, do you agree that James DeGale (through no fault of his own) is not as well known as Audley Harrison or Amir Khan were at this stage in their careers? Likewise, following his victory in China, do you agree that again (through no fault of his own) James DeGale did not get as much public exposure as Audley or Amir?

I believe that this will have had a significant impact on both his contract and what opponents are paid to fight him. I may be wrong; but I doubt it.

Yes,i agree Degale isnt as well known as those two.He did get good publictity though and nobody knew before he signed his contract that the public werent going to warm to him.As for what his opponents get,i havent just plucked that fighure out of thin air,its a semi-educated guess from speaking to people who have been in a similar position(the opponent).

[gobbles]

Ask the people in the know on here and i bet im not far out with 5k gross for Barr last night.What he gets in other fights is irrelevant and will be a lot less.He was boxing an Olympic champ live on a Sky show.David Bailey got 5k five years ago for facing Khan in his debut.

Mickey, do you agree that James DeGale (through no fault of his own) is not as well known as Audley Harrison or Amir Khan were at this stage in their careers? Likewise, following his victory in China, do you agree that again (through no fault of his own) James DeGale did not get as much public exposure as Audley or Amir?

I believe that this will have had a significant impact on both his contract and what opponents are paid to fight him. I may be wrong; but I doubt it.

I would say Groves.....and jeffreys are more well Known then Degale who looked a big tit last night

In that case you are mad.

No one outside boxing circles or Sunderland knows who Groves or Jeffires are, while DeGale has been a regular in the papers and on TV shows and Five Live even did a special show for his debut. He isn't as well know as Harrison or Khan, because Britain won so many more medals in Beijing than either Sydney or Athens.

[bad mamma jamma]

Watched the fight and have read this whole thread and IMO:

Degale should save the fancy ring entrances for when he has achieved something professionally. Getting a gold medal for what effectively is fkin fencing without the gear and the sword don't impress me much, as that great philosopher Shania Twain said.

I am not against the music he used or the rapper, but do it when you've done something or are at leats fighting someone with a pulse.

He should calm down with the cockiness, pride comes before a fall. He will make more enemies than fans, and end up having to go abroad like Amir Khan cos he's messed up his image in the UK.

Calling Groves ginger, ugly etc is childish makes him a poor role model. I let my lad, who's 9 , watch boxing. Kids at that age are easily influenced and I dont want him to hear a professional sportsman come out with playground talk like that.

He needs to grow up cos now, all I want is St George to fck him up...properly as well.

[Mooresy]

If a comedian wanted to do a comedy sketch of the most embarrasing, cringeworthy ringwalk possible, they could definately get a few tips off Degale. That was ridiculous. And afterwards. And before, in the dressing room. The lot.