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I'm tempted to change it to April 1

adamheight wrote:how did u confirm 14th? damn thats a wednesday. its looking unlikely ill go

the only place ive seen 14th was the challenge stadium site.
ibo, boxrec and fightnews all have 18th. (sunday)

Ive heard 14th over here as well. Maybe its still undecided ??

I have purchased tickets and the ticketmaster web site said the 14th.
I made conatct with GMP and they have no idea where the 18th has come from but stated the fight was definitely the 14th, a Wednesday.

If this fight proves anything it's how difficult it is for Australians to get big name opponents.

There's been plenty of criticism regarding Anthony Mundine's opposition over the past few years but the champions and top ranked contenders from the USA aren't interested in taking risks against guys like Green and Mundine when they can get bigger paydays against lesser opposition.

As for Green bagging Choc for avoiding him....Mundine didn't drop to middleweight so he could fight a cruiserweight.

AntonS wrote:

AntonS wrote:

Marlin wrote: Nice.

I'm known to beat around the bush

BTW, the title is now up for grabs in France on March 20
http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=595421

Did it fall out of the sky there?

Demerit wrote:If this fight proves anything it's how difficult it is for Australians to get big name opponents.

There's been plenty of criticism regarding Anthony Mundine's opposition over the past few years but the champions and top ranked contenders from the USA aren't interested in taking risks against guys like Green and Mundine when they can get bigger paydays against lesser opposition.

As for Green bagging Choc for avoiding him....Mundine didn't drop to middleweight so he could fight a cruiserweight.

I think he went that way to avoid people who weigh more than 168/76 tho

It's true about americans not wanting Green, i don't know about Mundine? He doesn't really have any power left, so getting KOed wouldn't be an issue for his opponents, i think a Boxer who is very well conditioned could beat Mundine, which Geale showed if you work harder than Mundine you should win.
Green on the otherhand could really end your career, see Stipe Drews,Eric Lucas and Paul Murdock to name just a few.
Money wise he completely destroyed RJJ and fighters would have to be confident to consider a fight with Green in Australia, you have a man who could potentially ruin your night and your career.
It's a pity that the best fighters in his division are old and very cautious and a real big name may never venture to these shores to fight the green machine at Light cruiser(81kg) again. I hope this isn't true.

Hounddawg wrote: I think he went that way to avoid people who weigh more than 168/76 tho

Mundine has always wanted a big fight, (world title if possible,) in the USA but at the time there was no champions at super middleweight from the US (Andre Ward was still a contender).. As for middleweight there was Jermain Taylor, Winky Wright and of course Kelly Pavlik while Paul Williams at super welter was another option.

It's true about americans not wanting Green, i don't know about Mundine? He doesn't really have any power left, so getting KOed wouldn't be an issue for his opponents, i think a Boxer who is very well conditioned could beat Mundine, which Geale showed if you work harder than Mundine you should win.

The question regarding Mundine's power is not black and white. The majority of his recent bouts have been against fighters not willing to take the fight to Mundine so he has been forced to out-work them. As for Geale, I believe that Mundine won that fight clearly as plenty of Geale's punches were either slipped, blocked or parried and Mundine landed plenty of good clean shots against a top quality fighter in Geale.

Green on the otherhand could really end your career, see Stipe Drews,Eric Lucas and Paul Murdock to name just a few.

The three guys you name were all past their best and getting on in age. Stipe Drews was one of those Europeans that scored a title thanks to brilliant management.

Money wise he completely destroyed RJJ and fighters would have to be confident to consider a fight with Green in Australia, you have a man who could potentially ruin your night and your career.
It's a pity that the best fighters in his division are old and very cautious and a real big name may never venture to these shores to fight the green machine at Light cruiser(81kg) again. I hope this isn't true.

Roy Jones at 41 years of age was already shot which is why he came to Australia in the first place. His loss to Green was his 5th in 10 bouts. It's been almost 7 years since RJJ beat Ruiz and that's when he should have retired. Have to add that he was done no favours v Green having to wait more than 10 minutes from the time he stepped into the ring until the first round began. Catching the old man cold was a planned move in my opinion.

^^ my brain isn't big enough to do all that quoting shit as above. But i'll give my response regarding the points raised about Mundine, for what it is worth......

Mundine has always said he wanted a big fight. His actions differ greatly. I'm not going to restate the same things that have been stated dozens of times here.....use the search function if you are interested.

Mundine's Power is not questionable. It is black and white. He has little left. He is a good enough boxer to get into positions to allow the big kabosh to be unleashed on the rabble he has recently fought, and he has been unable to do so. Mundine did not win against Geale clearly. Even the staunchest of his supports freely admit that. It was tight at best, he lost at worst.

Those fighters were past their best. Hence their careers being effectively ended. It pretty much goes hand in hand. Green has the potential to finish a career that is close to the end.

Having to wait ten minutes eh.... You may have thought, being an all time great (those who disagree can fuck off to another thread and attack me), that he might have been clever enough to combat that situation. He should have seen it all before....he has probably done it himself all before. He was stopped fair and square. The details can be postured over, but the fact (i should fornicating underline that) is was that he was overwhelmed. A great win for Danny and boxing here is Australia.



As with all fans, no one will be able to sway their reasoning. But i just can not seem to let it slide when it come to Mundine. Perhaps its because i wish it wasn't the case.

So how does the even older Bernard Hopkins hope to beat old Roy Jones Junior? 8)

Brute wrote:So how does the even older Bernard Hopkins hope to beat old Roy Jones Junior? 8)

i think he plans to beat him, at range, with his walking frame.

toppity wrote: Mundine's Power is not questionable. It is black and white. He has little left. He is a good enough boxer to get into positions to allow the big kabosh to be unleashed

Quoting Micheal Shivello is not acceptable. One must not lower ones self to such levels

dberry wrote:

toppity wrote:^^ my brain isn't big enough to do all that quoting poop as above. But i'll give my response regarding the points raised about Mundine, for what it is worth......

Mundine has always said he wanted a big fight. His actions differ greatly. I'm not going to restate the same things that have been stated dozens of times here.....use the search function if you are interested.

Mundine's Power is not questionable. It is black and white. He has little left. He is a good enough boxer to get into positions to allow the big kabosh to be unleashed on the rabble he has recently fought, and he has been unable to do so. Mundine did not win against Geale clearly. Even the staunchest of his supports freely admit that. It was tight at best, he lost at worst.

Those fighters were past their best. Hence their careers being effectively ended. It pretty much goes hand in hand. Green has the potential to finish a career that is close to the end.

Having to wait ten minutes eh.... You may have thought, being an all time great (those who disagree can fuck off to another thread and attack me), that he might have been clever enough to combat that situation. He should have seen it all before....he has probably done it himself all before. He was stopped fair and square. The details can be postured over, but the fact (i should effing underline that) is was that he was overwhelmed. A great win for Danny and boxing here is Australia.



As with all fans, no one will be able to sway their reasoning. But i just can not seem to let it slide when it come to Mundine. Perhaps its because i wish it wasn't the case.

Quoting Micheal Shivello is not acceptable. One must not lower ones self to such levels

Nup...can't agree. He is a legend both here and abroad. I've only got one thing to say to you.............Champagne.

toppity wrote:

dberry wrote:

toppity wrote:^^ my brain isn't big enough to do all that quoting poop as above. But i'll give my response regarding the points raised about Mundine, for what it is worth......

Mundine has always said he wanted a big fight. His actions differ greatly. I'm not going to restate the same things that have been stated dozens of times here.....use the search function if you are interested.

Mundine's Power is not questionable. It is black and white. He has little left. He is a good enough boxer to get into positions to allow the big kabosh to be unleashed on the rabble he has recently fought, and he has been unable to do so. Mundine did not win against Geale clearly. Even the staunchest of his supports freely admit that. It was tight at best, he lost at worst.

Those fighters were past their best. Hence their careers being effectively ended. It pretty much goes hand in hand. Green has the potential to finish a career that is close to the end.

Having to wait ten minutes eh.... You may have thought, being an all time great (those who disagree can fuck off to another thread and attack me), that he might have been clever enough to combat that situation. He should have seen it all before....he has probably done it himself all before. He was stopped fair and square. The details can be postured over, but the fact (i should effing underline that) is was that he was overwhelmed. A great win for Danny and boxing here is Australia.



As with all fans, no one will be able to sway their reasoning. But i just can not seem to let it slide when it come to Mundine. Perhaps its because i wish it wasn't the case.

Quoting Micheal Shivello is not acceptable. One must not lower ones self to such levels

Nup...can't agree. He is a legend both here and abroad. I've only got one thing to say to you.............Champagne.

Some people just love a goose.

we've got and had plenty dberry, lol.
biggest one in mind - one steve irwin.

Hmmm

toppity wrote:^^ my brain isn't big enough to do all that quoting poop as above. But i'll give my response regarding the points raised about Mundine, for what it is worth......

Mundine has always said he wanted a big fight. His actions differ greatly. I'm not going to restate the same things that have been stated dozens of times here.....use the search function if you are interested.

Mundine's Power is not questionable. It is black and white. He has little left. He is a good enough boxer to get into positions to allow the big kabosh to be unleashed on the rabble he has recently fought, and he has been unable to do so. Mundine did not win against Geale clearly. Even the staunchest of his supports freely admit that. It was tight at best, he lost at worst.

Those fighters were past their best. Hence their careers being effectively ended. It pretty much goes hand in hand. Green has the potential to finish a career that is close to the end.

Having to wait ten minutes eh.... You may have thought, being an all time great (those who disagree can fuck off to another thread and attack me), that he might have been clever enough to combat that situation. He should have seen it all before....he has probably done it himself all before. He was stopped fair and square. The details can be postured over, but the fact (i should effing underline that) is was that he was overwhelmed. A great win for Danny and boxing here is Australia.



As with all fans, no one will be able to sway their reasoning. But i just can not seem to let it slide when it come to Mundine. Perhaps its because i wish it wasn't the case.

Great post toppo, great post.

I am also happy to reiterate that Mundine clearly dropped weight to avoid a Title fight with Kessler. It was a straight up gutless duck, no two ways about it.

toppity wrote:

dberry wrote:Quoting Micheal Shivello is not acceptable. One must not lower ones self to such levels

Nup...can't agree. He is a legend both here and abroad. I've only got one thing to say to you.............Champagne.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEUCqvIADLA

Yes, good post Topp Micheal Shivello catch phrase and all.
That was a gutless duck of Kessler by Mundine. I loved that it was so blatant, even blind Mundine supporters must be able to see it for what it was.

Marlin wrote:

toppity wrote:

dberry wrote:Quoting Micheal Shivello is not acceptable. One must not lower ones self to such levels

Nup...can't agree. He is a legend both here and abroad. I've only got one thing to say to you.............Champagne.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEUCqvIADLA

Big Darrel Eastlake wannabe.

hi all, my first post. Looks a good forum.

big Daz Eastlake, didnt he have a heart attack during a state of origin game?
Talk about getting excited, krikey.

well i cant stand mundine. I appreciate his skills as an athelete and he probably wouldve done well no matter what he did, but as a person, mmm.!
Even in his league days he was a self concieted big mouth, with comments like hes the best 5/8 in the world. There was a few real legends still playing like freddy fitler, lokyer etc. and no way was he better. Im a saints supporter to.
I just dont understand his attitude, he could've been loved by the aussie public had he shown a little humility and toned the "im the best" and the rest of the rubbish down. As it is most aussies want to see him get crushed.
The shit he said about 9/11 and the yanks deserving it, has them hating him so hes not wanted over there.
Then theres all the islam crap, (no offence to islamic people) but an aboriginal jumping on that band wagon like so many black american atheletes, oh puuuulease.

Danny should forget him and get on with making some real money for himself. Hopefully a rematch will eventuate.

well said trigger

hairtrigga wrote:hi all, my first post. Looks a good forum.

big Daz Eastlake, didnt he have a heart attack during a state of origin game?
Talk about getting excited, krikey.

Don't know about a heart attack. He seemed to have an orgasm any time Wally Lewis got the ball.

Yes, Big Darrel did have a heart attack whilst on air, I don't know what he was calling, I think it was either the rugby or the surfing. He jumped strait beck in the saddle though. I think he had multiple orgasms when on air, Brute. Hair Trigger Daz I reckon his mates call him.

Darrel had his heart attack while calling the surf-boat races for Channel 9 at an Australian Surf Life Saving Championships in QLD some years ago.

Perhaps he got excited looking at the bare behinds of the rowers with their swimmers up their "Bulli Passes"!