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ImElvis666 wrote:

Flash Evangerlou wrote:I heard Macklin didn't quite cut it at the Wildcard.

Off who?

on a youtube interview his face looked quite badly bruised after sparring, but that can happen, freddie says he is doing well.

Deno1986 wrote:A person's nationality is for that individual to decide and not others. Macklin has openly declared he prefers Irish to be his nationality but he also takes a lot of pride in representing the city and folk of Birmingham.

so really it depends if he's fighting in the west midlands on friday fight night, or if he's fighting on RTE in ireland...

Autobarn wrote:

Deno1986 wrote:A person's nationality is for that individual to decide and not others. Macklin has openly declared he prefers Irish to be his nationality but he also takes a lot of pride in representing the city and folk of Birmingham.

so really it depends if he's fighting in the west midlands on friday fight night, or if he's fighting on RTE in ireland...

quick question. Was the YouTube interview with Ellie for RTE or was it in Ireland?

I think you will find that most second generation Irish in England that I have met will have much more of an affinity with the city they grew up in as opposed to the country e.g. they are much more likely to describe themselves as Birmingham-Irish, Manchester-Irish etc as opposed to Anglo-Irish, English-Irish, British-Irish etc.

You seem to have a real issue with Macklin stating he is Irish any particular reason for this?

i don't have an issue. irishness can be marketable in boxing and this is what i was pointing at. on the contrary this thread seems to be a big deal over nothing. though i have to say, his best performances came in england (elcock, aiskainen) not ireland (campas, pintos).

Autobarn wrote:i don't have an issue. irishness can be marketable in boxing and this is what i was pointing at. on the contrary this thread seems to be a big deal over nothing. though i have to say, his best performances came in england (elcock, aiskainen) not ireland (campas, pintos).

Well you are insinuating that he is only "pretending to be Irish" for money. That's how your posts are reading to me. Where his best performances occurred have no baring on his nationality if it did then McGuigan is English and McCullough is Japanese!

slapbangwhallop wrote:

Autobarn wrote:i don't have an issue. irishness can be marketable in boxing and this is what i was pointing at. on the contrary this thread seems to be a big deal over nothing. though i have to say, his best performances came in england (elcock, aiskainen) not ireland (campas, pintos).

Well you are insinuating that he is only "pretending to be Irish" for money. That's how your posts are reading to me. Where his best performances occurred have no baring on his nationality if it did then McGuigan is English and McCullough is Japanese!

of course he's not pretending, if he has parent from ireland and a brother - i belive - with an irish name.

maybe i'm a bit cynical when it comes to the business of boxing, and can see that there is a market for exciting fighters who have a claim to being irish in the post dunne era...

macklin chose to say he was irish too get a huge support, the irish dont half get behind there fighters.

Autobarn wrote:

slapbangwhallop wrote:

Autobarn wrote:i don't have an issue. irishness can be marketable in boxing and this is what i was pointing at. on the contrary this thread seems to be a big deal over nothing. though i have to say, his best performances came in england (elcock, aiskainen) not ireland (campas, pintos).

Well you are insinuating that he is only "pretending to be Irish" for money. That's how your posts are reading to me. Where his best performances occurred have no baring on his nationality if it did then McGuigan is English and McCullough is Japanese!

of course he's not pretending, if he has parent from ireland and a brother - i belive - with an irish name.

maybe i'm a bit cynical when it comes to the business of boxing, and can see that there is a market for exciting fighters who have a claim to being irish in the post dunne era...

If thats your opinion then fair enough, all I can say is that I disagree. Many people I know in a similar position to Macklin would also find that insinuation pretty disrespectful.

Macklin's "Irishness" didn't begin with the Dunne era. For example the guy played hurling for Tipperary as a kid (which would be similar to playing underage county cricket) and spent much of his youth in Ireland.

HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:macklin chose to say he was irish too get a huge support, the irish dont half get behind there fighters.

is macklin going to fight in america on a big card?

i'd love to see the debates that will happen, once either buffer or lennon jr announces "from birmingham, england"- , or "hailing from Ireland"- MATTHEW MACKLIN

If hes in America theyl announce his as from ireland half the battle over there is getting the irish behind you.

darren barker seems to be the most hated man in ireland right now. at least if you read these forums.

but i reckon if he turned out to be irish, then the irish fans would get behind him, and forget all about the belgecham fight (as belge hurt andy lee late on, vut then again everyone does that, don't they?).

Autobarn wrote:darren barker seems to be the most hated man in ireland right now. at least if you read these forums.

but i reckon if he turned out to be irish, then the irish fans would get behind him, and forget all about the belgecham fight (as belge hurt andy lee late on, vut then again everyone does that, don't they?).

why is barker the most hated man in ireland? because he is better then andy lee and they knw macklin is ducking barker

HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:

Autobarn wrote:darren barker seems to be the most hated man in ireland right now. at least if you read these forums.

but i reckon if he turned out to be irish, then the irish fans would get behind him, and forget all about the belgecham fight (as belge hurt andy lee late on, vut then again everyone does that, don't they?).

why is barker the most hated man in ireland? because he is better then andy lee and they knw macklin is ducking barker

How do you know he is better than Lee? The only evidence that one is better than the other is the amateur fight they had which Lee won plus the common opponent they have - Belghecam, who Lee outboxed for 9 rounds and who Barker struggled with and scraped a decision against over 12 rounds. Macklin has called out Barker aswell a few times, yet all seems to be quiet on Barkers side.

Deno1986 wrote:

HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:

Autobarn wrote:darren barker seems to be the most hated man in ireland right now. at least if you read these forums.

but i reckon if he turned out to be irish, then the irish fans would get behind him, and forget all about the belgecham fight (as belge hurt andy lee late on, vut then again everyone does that, don't they?).

why is barker the most hated man in ireland? because he is better then andy lee and they knw macklin is ducking barker

How do you know he is better than Lee? The only evidence that one is better than the other is the amateur fight they had which Lee won plus the common opponent they have - Belghecam, who Lee outboxed for 9 rounds and who Barker struggled with and scraped a decision against over 12 rounds. Macklin has called out Barker aswell a few times, yet all seems to be quiet on Barkers side.

macklin has called out barker a few times barker has been calling macklin out for YEARS!! and macklin duckd him every time. now macklin has called him out and barker is maning up and taking the fight, when are purse bids?

i just believe barker is better then lee, don't need no evidence other then lee got sparked by a bum and barker is undefeated triple champion

HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:

Deno1986 wrote:

HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote: why is barker the most hated man in ireland? because he is better then andy lee and they knw macklin is ducking barker

How do you know he is better than Lee? The only evidence that one is better than the other is the amateur fight they had which Lee won plus the common opponent they have - Belghecam, who Lee outboxed for 9 rounds and who Barker struggled with and scraped a decision against over 12 rounds. Macklin has called out Barker aswell a few times, yet all seems to be quiet on Barkers side.

macklin has called out barker a few times barker has been calling macklin out for YEARS!! and macklin duckd him every time. now macklin has called him out and barker is maning up and taking the fight, when are purse bids?

i just believe barker is better then lee, don't need no evidence other then lee got sparked by a bum and barker is undefeated triple champion

Now you're proving your lack of knowledge just like I pointed out last time. Don't let personal feelings toward a fighter cloud your judgment. Macklin certainly hasn't or isn't avoiding Darren Barker - If he has it has been for bigger fights.
In my opinion Macklin stops Barker. I've been in the ring with both (all be it Barker as an amateur and I know he has seriously improved) and I feel Macklin's strength, power and all round attacking skills will be way too much for Darren, also Macklin's boxing brain is underrated. Now I like Darren Barker, I rate him a lot and think he is a lovely lad as well as a good fighter so this is nothing personal just because Macklin is a good friend of mine.

I just feel on watching the last few performances, added to what I know and believe - Macklin has too much.

*I await your usual 19 year old, childish "you're sh*t fight this kid fight that kid, hit and hold, scouse twat" reply.

HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:

Deno1986 wrote:

HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote: why is barker the most hated man in ireland? because he is better then andy lee and they knw macklin is ducking barker

How do you know he is better than Lee? The only evidence that one is better than the other is the amateur fight they had which Lee won plus the common opponent they have - Belghecam, who Lee outboxed for 9 rounds and who Barker struggled with and scraped a decision against over 12 rounds. Macklin has called out Barker aswell a few times, yet all seems to be quiet on Barkers side.

macklin has called out barker a few times barker has been calling macklin out for YEARS!! and macklin duckd him every time. now macklin has called him out and barker is maning up and taking the fight, when are purse bids?

i just believe barker is better then lee, don't need no evidence other then lee got sparked by a bum and barker is undefeated triple champion

You obviously never even saw the fight.

That "bum" is better than anything you "triple champion" has ever faced.

Smigga wrote:

HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:

Deno1986 wrote: How do you know he is better than Lee? The only evidence that one is better than the other is the amateur fight they had which Lee won plus the common opponent they have - Belghecam, who Lee outboxed for 9 rounds and who Barker struggled with and scraped a decision against over 12 rounds. Macklin has called out Barker aswell a few times, yet all seems to be quiet on Barkers side.

macklin has called out barker a few times barker has been calling macklin out for YEARS!! and macklin duckd him every time. now macklin has called him out and barker is maning up and taking the fight, when are purse bids?

i just believe barker is better then lee, don't need no evidence other then lee got sparked by a bum and barker is undefeated triple champion

Now you're proving your lack of knowledge just like I pointed out last time. Don't let personal feelings toward a fighter cloud your judgment. Macklin certainly hasn't or isn't avoiding Darren Barker - If he has it has been for bigger fights.
In my opinion Macklin stops Barker. I've been in the ring with both (all be it Barker as an amateur and I know he has seriously improved) and I feel Macklin's strength, power and all round attacking skills will be way too much for Darren, also Macklin's boxing brain is underrated. Now I like Darren Barker, I rate him a lot and think he is a lovely lad as well as a good fighter so this is nothing personal just because Macklin is a good friend of mine.

I just feel on watching the last few performances, added to what I know and believe - Macklin has too much.

*I await your usual 19 year old, childish "you're sh*t fight this kid fight that kid, hit and hold, scouse twat" reply.

who said anything about scouse twats, i have never ever said that i have been to liverpool several times and support liverpool football team so your chattin shiz, cloud my judgment? i also like macklin but he blatently duckd barker in my opinion

Macklin has turned down fights with Barker, maybe for bigger fights but if he fancied his chances then surely he would've just taken the fight? Big money and big publicity? If Macklin is so good why isnt he getting these big title fights??? He should fight Barker, it will be his biggest fight but would get taught a lesson. Barker to stop Mackin late on.

potnoodle wrote:Macklin has turned down fights with Barker, maybe for bigger fights but if he fancied his chances then surely he would've just taken the fight? Big money and big publicity? If Macklin is so good why isnt he getting these big title fights??? He should fight Barker, it will be his biggest fight but would get taught a lesson. Barker to stop Mackin late on.

would you rather be European champion or British champion (we know Smigga thinks they are equal! ;) )

Macklin opens Barker like a pot noodle and písses all over the hype jobs ambitions like the dehydrated ramen-style instant noodle that they are. DD

slapbangwhallop wrote:

potnoodle wrote:Macklin has turned down fights with Barker, maybe for bigger fights but if he fancied his chances then surely he would've just taken the fight? Big money and big publicity? If Macklin is so good why isnt he getting these big title fights??? He should fight Barker, it will be his biggest fight but would get taught a lesson. Barker to stop Mackin late on.

would you rather be European champion or British champion (we know Smigga thinks they are equal! ;) )

Macklin opens Barker like a pot noodle and písses all over the hype jobs ambitions like the dehydrated ramen-style instant noodle that they are. DD

They? who's they? When Macklin decides to fight Barker we will see.
And i would like to be British, Commonwealth and European champ!!!!

potnoodle wrote:

slapbangwhallop wrote:

potnoodle wrote:Macklin has turned down fights with Barker, maybe for bigger fights but if he fancied his chances then surely he would've just taken the fight? Big money and big publicity? If Macklin is so good why isnt he getting these big title fights??? He should fight Barker, it will be his biggest fight but would get taught a lesson. Barker to stop Mackin late on.

would you rather be European champion or British champion (we know Smigga thinks they are equal! ;) )

Macklin opens Barker like a pot noodle and písses all over the hype jobs ambitions like the dehydrated ramen-style instant noodle that they are. DD

They? who's they? When Macklin decides to fight Barker we will see.
And i would like to be British, Commonwealth and European champ!!!!

"they" are his ambitions.

As for the baubles - where Macklin leads - Barker follows like the subserviant eunuch that he is!

slapbangwhallop wrote:

potnoodle wrote:Macklin has turned down fights with Barker, maybe for bigger fights but if he fancied his chances then surely he would've just taken the fight? Big money and big publicity? If Macklin is so good why isnt he getting these big title fights??? He should fight Barker, it will be his biggest fight but would get taught a lesson. Barker to stop Mackin late on.

would you rather be European champion or British champion (we know Smigga thinks they are equal! ;) )

Macklin opens Barker like a pot noodle and písses all over the hype jobs ambitions like the dehydrated ramen-style instant noodle that they are. DD

Wow that's athe funnyest comment I've read in weeks funny that

I'm hearing that Warren won the purse bid.