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Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:49
by lefty
edwardo wrote:read the thread again an ul c i never wrote that.dont try an twist it ballbag.in my opinion u talk poo
.....but its ok.
see you try and provoke,the other fighters on here dont get abusive when they dont agree with your opinion though its just you
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:51
by edwardo
ok u say sorry an we,ll start again......... 8)
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:52
by lefty
edwardo wrote:ok u say sorry an we,ll start again......... 8)
il say sorry if you say sorry
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:56
by edwardo
you first 8)
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 16:00
by lefty
edwardo wrote:you first 8)
ok in all seriousness i apologise for the rude things i said but i just retaliate if i feel like someone is taking a pop,anyway i agree that calling lesser fighters bums was out of line and ignorant of me so i apologise for that aswell.I just get sick as a fan of seeing these fights where you have one guy who leagues above the others getting put in with guys that arent on the whole going to provide any kind of test,i just dont see the point of it.
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 16:34
by johnnygreaves
I know what you mean lefty, I'll just jump in and say throughout my career I've always tried to give my all, in the ones that after a round I know I can't really land or win I go defensive, but even then don't plant my hands on the side of me head , I give angles, movement & bring out the old Ali shuffle & try to entertain! Lot of money people pay for tickets & I really try to at least put a smile on their faces
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 16:40
by lefty
johnnygreaves wrote:I know what you mean lefty, I'll just jump in and say throughout my career I've always tried to give my all, in the ones that after a round I know I can't really land or win I go defensive, but even then don't plant my hands on the side of me head , I give angles, movement & bring out the old Ali shuffle & try to entertain! Lot of money people pay for tickets & I really try to at least put a smile on their faces
Well thats fair enough mate,why cant promoters start putting matches on between fellow journeymen?Atleast you'd have competitive fights and probably in certain cases better than the fights you normally see!
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 16:51
by johnnygreaves
I really tried with this journeyman prize fighter , been told I have more chance of being struck by lightning, on every show you need a lad that's going to sell tickets to pay for the fight . No promoter is going to do us any favours if they won't make a pound note, its a shame all round because I genuinely think I would prove myself britains no1 journeyman
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 16:55
by Tommy Gunn13
simon fox wrote:Tommy Gunn13 wrote:johnnygreaves wrote:This goes into one of my other posts, I really think a journeyman & a bum are two completely different things. On the frank malony thread people were slagging these boys that go over soon as they take one clean shot. Imo they are the ones that run the risk of being called a bum. A journeyman boxes every other week against up & coming boxers still holding their o, maybe I have rose tinted glasses on but a genuine journeyman brings much to our sport . I only really post on things I think I can talk about with an in depth knowledge , & when it comes to this subject I forgot more than most know
Johnny your a good journeymen,whos well known in the boxing circles(people who follow the game) i dont mean to speak out of turn,but why dont you say to yourself f*ck this im go give it me best&all&see what i can do in a year&see where you get mate?..Im sure if you put all in you will beat many who have beat you...
Tommy; do you think his employers (the promoters) will keep ihim in in work if he knocks the next great flying machine off course?
I've read loads of your posts before and have proper agreed with you; don't you think that Johnny has weighed the idea up himself and made a realistic decision?
Soz for the delay replying,i forgot i posted on this subject its not showing up on the boards for some reason...Yeah im sure Johnny has weighed up the idea what he cant&cant do&the level he could get to..He wont be getting the phone calls from promoters if he start beating the prospects...
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 17:09
by lefty
johnnygreaves wrote:I really tried with this journeyman prize fighter , been told I have more chance of being struck by lightning, on every show you need a lad that's going to sell tickets to pay for the fight . No promoter is going to do us any favours if they won't make a pound note, its a shame all round because I genuinely think I would prove myself britains no1 journeyman
Well at the end of the day fans pay to watch good fights,etc so i dont see why there would be a problem with two journeyman fighting each other because it would probably be more exciting to watch that alot of the fights we see especially when its a prospect against someone who he's far better than and doesnt have the tools to do anything.
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 17:20
by johnnygreaves
I'm with ya mate, all the way. Still won't change the fact the games all about the wonga
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 17:24
by lefty
johnnygreaves wrote:I'm with ya mate, all the way. Still won't change the fact the games all about the wonga
Ok i have a very cheeky question johnny so you can tell me to piss off if you like!Ha.What sort of money do you make for these fights and does it depend on the profile of the guy you're fighting ie if you fought say frankie gavin would you make more than if you fought skeete who hopefully you're gonna be fighting?
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 17:46
by johnnygreaves
Yes mate, you'd get a lot more for frankie, er , let's just say the money is nothing like what people think, over the last couple of years purses have gone down , fw generally pays well , you get more on tv shows but on the whole, you have to do this for love viz its never gonna make me rich! Me & my family eat well mate.
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 17:48
by lefty
johnnygreaves wrote:Yes mate, you'd get a lot more for frankie, er , let's just say the money is nothing like what people think, over the last couple of years purses have gone down , fw generally pays well , you get more on tv shows but on the whole, you have to do this for love viz its never gonna make me rich! Me & my family eat well mate.
well thats the most important thing
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 18:13
by edwardo
i apologise lefty 8) ....an johnny i always enjoy watchin u fight when ur on :)