Green Update

[Brute]

Green KOed Jones the year after Jones went the distance with Calzaghe.

[caveman]

calzaghe boxed jones ears off after knockdown didnt he ?

[bollox]

In Jones' prime he Ko's Green inside 6 rounds. And Calzaghe makes Green look silly for the full 12

[crusader]

Green KOed Jones the year after Jones went the distance with Calzaghe.

So? I remember you saying the exact same thing about the Zappa-Vasquez fight with regards to that Korean they both faced.

[thunderfromdownunder]

Green KOed Jones the year after Jones went the distance with Calzaghe.

you said that regerding hopkind - jones as well.
calzaghe had brittle hands and wasnt known as a big puncher, while hopkins hasnt dtopped anyone in 7 years, and the guy he stopped then was a blown up welterweight.
going the distance means nothing

[Brute]

Green KOed Jones the year after Jones went the distance with Calzaghe.

you said that regerding hopkind - jones as well.
calzaghe had brittle hands and wasnt known as a big puncher, while hopkins hasnt dtopped anyone in 7 years, and the guy he stopped then was a blown up welterweight.
going the distance means nothing

And yet Hopkins is rated no 1 light heavyweight in the world by Boxrec.

[Brute]

Green KOed Jones the year after Jones went the distance with Calzaghe.

So? I remember you saying the exact same thing about the Zappa-Vasquez fight with regards to that Korean they both faced.

I take it you mean Ji Hoon Kim, who drew with Vasquez.

Are you saying Zappavigna had no right to challenge Vasquez, or do you just hate Australian fighters?

[Brute]

In Jones' prime he Ko's Green inside 6 rounds. And Calzaghe makes Green look silly for the full 12

That would be a first. Green has never been KOed. What is this "prime" shit anyway?

[Mark pawsey]

provided it was at lightheavyweight green would have had a shot. If it were at supermiddleweight Joe would have slapped him silly, it would have been like the mundine fight but worse.

going to have to disagree with you there. green got schooled by mundine at super middle but its common knowledge that weight drainage was a massive factor in that fight. at light heavy that wouldn't be the case therefore the same result wouldn't be guaranteed. also most would agree green has grown considerably as a fighter since 2006 whereas mundine seems to have gone backwards. and at light heavy i doubt calzage would be bouncing back up like he did against jones and hopkins if he got hit by green. admittedly green might not have the same chance at landing so often but i doubt that he would need to, also at light heavy i doubt that he would gas out like roy seemed to.

I knew mundine would school Green, and i said it from day one that he would beat him. I miss the days when used to be able to gee people up about it, can't believe how much everyone used to get fired when I used to say mundine's going to smash Green,and all that time Green was fighting at super middle, so how can you say Green was weight drained? He always fought at that weight, It's not like he came down a division. It's simple Green's feet were just not quick enough to catch up with mundine. If they fought at light heavy I believe it would of been the same result don't think the extra three kg would of made any difference, if you can fight you can fight, don't matter what weight it is.

[Mark pawsey]

I think after Green won the light heavyweight title he should of made a defense against Mundine

[crusader]

Green KOed Jones the year after Jones went the distance with Calzaghe.

So? I remember you saying the exact same thing about the Zappa-Vasquez fight with regards to that Korean they both faced.

I take it you mean Ji Hoon Kim, who drew with Vasquez.

Are you saying Zappavigna had no right to challenge Vasquez, or do you just hate Australian fighters?

Vasquez defeated Kim by scores of 120-108, 119-109, and 118-110.

I am saying that your post about the respective results of Calzaghe-Jones/Green-Jones isn't really a strong point. Knocking out an opponent doesn't mean someone is a better fighter or put in a better performance than someone who won a landslide decision over their common opponent. Zappa knocked out Kim in one round, Vasquez won a decision over Kim, yet, when Zappa and Vasquez fought, it was a one-sided win for Vasquez.

Zappa fully deserved his shot and I think he will earn another one in the future. He is still a very young kid with a lot of talent. I used him as part of an example because doing so illustrated my point, and you previously mentioned the Vasquez-Kim-Zappa series in the same context to the post that I originally responded to.

And I don't know why on earth you would suggest that I hate Australian fighters. I am a fan of several Aussie fighters such as Katsidis, Leapai, and Zappa--whom I was hoping would defeat Vasquez.

[Brute]

I think after Green won the light heavyweight title he should of made a defense against Mundine

Anthony is having enough trouble with middleweights.

[Brute]

it can effect people differently. ricky hatton struggled alot when fighting at 147. I think green should just go back to 175. The competition is better there anyway

That's what I think he should be fighting at light heavy weight, if you want to get technical he hasn't really fought at cruiser. The last fight was close to the cruiser limit, but the ones before that were light heavyweight without drying out on the day of the weigh in

Flores has beaten heavyweights. Hey Mark! if you think Green is so poor, why don't you challenge him?

[buster007]

if anything i think green was more to blame for losing than mundine for winning in their fight.

green just didn't respect anthony's ability and thought he'd throw a few big punches and he'd ko mundine. he simply tried way too hard to ko anthony. i guess u could say he was too HYPED UP and should have paced himself better. he would have landed many many more effective shots then.

his trainer should have been more effective in his instructions imo.

[thunderfromdownunder]

Green KOed Jones the year after Jones went the distance with Calzaghe.

you said that regerding hopkind - jones as well.
calzaghe had brittle hands and wasnt known as a big puncher, while hopkins hasnt dtopped anyone in 7 years, and the guy he stopped then was a blown up welterweight.
going the distance means nothing

And yet Hopkins is rated no 1 light heavyweight in the world by Boxrec.

and rightly so, but he rarley stops anyone.

[thunderfromdownunder]

In Jones' prime he Ko's Green inside 6 rounds. And Calzaghe makes Green look silly for the full 12

That would be a first. Green has never been KOed. What is this "prime" shit anyway?

Haha. You know "prime". It generally means your at the top of your game. If you seriously think that the Jones that green fought was the same guy who unified the 175 division then you are seriously mistaken.

[Brute]

In Jones' prime he Ko's Green inside 6 rounds. And Calzaghe makes Green look silly for the full 12

That would be a first. Green has never been KOed. What is this "prime" shit anyway?

Haha. You know "prime". It generally means your at the top of your game. If you seriously think that the Jones that green fought was the same guy who unified the 175 division then you are seriously mistaken.

Never heard a boxer use the expression. "Prime" is usually used for steak.

[thunderfromdownunder]

what about peak then

[Marlin]

now you're talking about mountains?

[franko1990]

now you're talking about mountains?

[thunderfromdownunder]

yes, i am clearly talking about steak and mountains. If you guys think that a 40 year old Jones is the same as a 27/28 year old Jones Thats fine. Jeez marlin i thought Jones was your favorite fighter. Surley you know he's shot to pieces, either that or ya'll musta forgot

[Mark pawsey]

I think Green is most comfortable at "Dannyweight", I believe his natural walking weight is generally about 190lb and he said before his mini-retirement that he still had to drain a lot to make 175lb. He could certainly still make that weight now, but I just don't think he wants to.

What really disappoints me is that had Green stayed at 175lb, not retired, defended his WBA belt and looked to unify - he could be a true great by now, as I believe he would have given Johnson, Tarver, Erdei and Woods a good fight and possibly beaten all of them.

i agree. Green v johnson would have been great. I know it will never happen now, but green v froch at 175 would be a cracker imo

green calzage would have been good too =)

That's right no disrespect to Green but his not in the same league as calzage

[Mark pawsey]

Green KOed Jones the year after Jones went the distance with Calzaghe.

you said that regerding hopkind - jones as well.
calzaghe had brittle hands and wasnt known as a big puncher, while hopkins hasnt dtopped anyone in 7 years, and the guy he stopped then was a blown up welterweight.
going the distance means nothing

And yet Hopkins is rated no 1 light heavyweight in the world by Boxrec.

Hopkins probably is the number 1 light heavy in the world

[Brute]

Green KOed Jones the year after Jones went the distance with Calzaghe.

you said that regerding hopkind - jones as well.
calzaghe had brittle hands and wasnt known as a big puncher, while hopkins hasnt dtopped anyone in 7 years, and the guy he stopped then was a blown up welterweight.
going the distance means nothing

So Oscar De La Hoya was a bum? He was WBO middleweight champion when he fought Hopkins. He won world titles from Super Featherweight to Middleweight.

[thunderfromdownunder]

no he wasnt a bum. But he was no middleweight either. His only other fight at that weight he received one of the biggest gift decisions in recent times, If not ever. You said it yourself. If he started at super featheweight how was he ever going to be a top middleweight