BoxRec

Yeah, I'm with *. What do people expect from Wlad when put in front of someone with Haye. If he did nothing he would be rattled, too. Haye's different from the likes of Wlad's previous opponents.

Dioufy wrote:Yeah, I'm with *. What do people expect from Wlad when put in front of someone with Haye. If he did nothing he would be rattled, too. Haye's different from the likes of Wlad's previous opponents.

by rattled i simply mean out of his comfort zone.

Haye's different from the likes of Wlad's previous opponents

exactly! i'm not saying that this means that Wlad will lose or anything but davids different approach is clearly affecting wlad....whether that will ultimately lead to a beating for haye or a loss for wlad remains to be seen...

If he did nothing he would be rattled, too.

yes...and yesterday was a case of klit tryin to regain control...up til now wlads been reacting to haye and not the other way round. yesterday wlad brought some new flavours to the table for haye to taste - flattery and respect and civility....in MY opinion haye didnt respond...and strategically this was the correct move. don't let the other guy set the agenda.

it was cute from wlad tho and not, i'd imagine, what haye was expecting.

Perhaps Haye didn't know how to respond? Perhaps he's a one-trick pony (insults, threats, etc) who doesn't know what to do when his trick doesn't work?

Glyn Leach wrote:Perhaps Haye didn't know how to respond? Perhaps he's a one-trick pony (insults, threats, etc) who doesn't know what to do when his trick doesn't work?

the correct response was how he responded...ie ignore it.

if he'd have shaken wlads hand then he woulda been doin what wlad wanted him to...

haye's approach is as much about convincing himself as anyone else....a la the GOAT.

and his 'trick' did work in any case....wlad was not acting how he normally would.

that's all it's about...

Not so certain but glad for you that you are! All very interesting, whatever.

MightyWarrior wrote:

ALI wrote: I could agree with that. I think Haye has it in his own mind that he has Wlad nervous, but when i seen Wlad's mocking of Haye's tweets, he did not seem nervous to me, and an air or realisation seemed to appear over Haye's face then.

Agree. I think DH has been imagining Wlad over and over as the dazed & confused sap he's seen ( many times ) floundering on the canvas against Sanders. Then the reality of the HUGE, confident and very assured man he met yesterday may have rattled him.
It's all very well "beating" a big hapless lump like Valuev, as DH constantly reminds everyone, but Wlad is a million miles away from the big Russian. He's massive, co ordinated, experienced, smart, hits like a mule and has a better chin than DH too.

He also throws a hell of a lot more punches, and hits way harder than Valuev.

If Haye's win over Valuev is an indication of how he is going to fight against Wlad - then he's going to lose.

Haye has to get inside Wlad's jab early on, once Wlad gets into a rhythmn with the jab, it's nigh on impossible to get near him.
I thinki the single biggest factor in the fight is Wlad's experience. He's probably in his prime now with the combination of physicality, experience, and tools. He's learnt how to spoil when on the inside, learnt how to keep range, and most importantly, how to take away his o[poonents tools and make them fight to his style.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote:

ALI wrote: I could agree with that. I think Haye has it in his own mind that he has Wlad nervous, but when i seen Wlad's mocking of Haye's tweets, he did not seem nervous to me, and an air or realisation seemed to appear over Haye's face then.

Agree. I think DH has been imagining Wlad over and over as the dazed & confused sap he's seen ( many times ) floundering on the canvas against Sanders. Then the reality of the HUGE, confident and very assured man he met yesterday may have rattled him.
It's all very well "beating" a big hapless lump like Valuev, as DH constantly reminds everyone, but Wlad is a million miles away from the big Russian. He's massive, co ordinated, experienced, smart, hits like a mule and has a better chin than DH too.

He also throws a hell of a lot more punches, and hits way harder than Valuev.

If Haye's win over Valuev is an indication of how he is going to fight against Wlad - then he's going to lose.

Haye has to get inside Wlad's jab early on, once Wlad gets into a rhythmn with the jab, it's nigh on impossible to get near him.
I thinki the single biggest factor in the fight is Wlad's experience. He's probably in his prime now with the combination of physicality, experience, and tools. He's learnt how to spoil when on the inside, learnt how to keep range, and most importantly, how to take away his o[poonents tools and make them fight to his style.

but has he learnt to take a shot yet?

BobD'Mello wrote:Wlad's banter about twitter and trying to shake Haye's hand would suggest that he hasn't got a future career in stand up, but you have to hand it to him, he's an intelligent bloke and seemingly a true gent. He was apparently translating bits of German into English for Haye so he could understand what was going on in the press conference...

That really is a touch of class. It's not hard to imagine what may have happened if the boot was on the other foot

Is anyone watching today's presser yet? Be grateful for updates and opinions please.

Glyn Leach wrote:Is anyone watching today's presser yet? Be grateful for updates and opinions please.

Isn't even on yet from what I can see.

Mmm. Thought it was a one o'clock kick off. They've probably cancelled the fight again then, double bad back syndrome.

Glyn Leach wrote:Mmm. Thought it was a one o'clock kick off. They've probably cancelled the fight again then, double bad back syndrome.

Aha... 1.30pm I think. Should be on soon.

I am off work today and have Sky Sports on. If I catch it, I'll give you some snippets, Leachy baby!

Dioufy wrote:I am off work today and have Sky Sports on. If I catch it, I'll give you some snippets, Leachy baby!

Thank y'all El Haj, taramasalata my brother!

Hope it's a bit more eventful today!

It's been "coming up live" for fornicating ever! Why do Sky do that?

It's on! Haye fornicating around with his phone. No Wlad yet.

"coming up live shortly"

He's pulled out, bad back! Quick Ian, break it on the News site, Boxrec exclusive!

Is Adam Smith hosting it, like he did the Haye-Harrison presser? Or have they taken the fight to Primetime, there's been this rumour going round ...

No one's hosting yet. Just showing Haye smiling and shaking hands with Ash Sexton. Not seen Smith nor Wlad yet.

Here comes Wlad and we're a go.

Adam Smith is speaking.

Smith just called it a "crackling" unification fight.

Should be interesting, Haye seemed a bit quiet yesterday but i'm sure he'll have a lot more to say this time.

Haye refused hand shake again.