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Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:18
by earsjohn
The_Don1 wrote:Zsolt Erdei’s due to be fighting Byron Mitchell on 4th June so he should be in training, if FW can pull a wedge out, he’d be a fair replacement for him to have a crack at getting his title back.
There's more chance of Warren leaving his wedge firmly in his pocket and sending a bag of peanuts over and getting Byron Mitchell instead of Erdei.
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:19
by Newport Daz
The_Don1 wrote:Zsolt Erdei’s due to be fighting Byron Mitchell on 4th June so he should be in training, if FW can pull a wedge out, he’d be a fair replacement for him to have a crack at getting his title back.
Good call, but i'd expect us to get Mitchell instead!
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:20
by Superheavy
Superheavy wrote:Danny Macintosh?
Forget about that. He got knocked out 2 weeks ago.
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:20
by SteveDow
Superheavy wrote:Danny Macintosh?
Wouldn't touch this with a barge pole if I were Macintosh. His career is at a bit of a crossroads after that Euro title loss and an inevitable defeat here would push him further backwards.
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:20
by The_Don1
earsjohn wrote:The_Don1 wrote:Zsolt Erdei’s due to be fighting Byron Mitchell on 4th June so he should be in training, if FW can pull a wedge out, he’d be a fair replacement for him to have a crack at getting his title back.
There's more chance of Warren leaving his wedge firmly in his pocket and sending a bag of peanuts over and getting Byron Mitchell instead of Erdei.
lol yep you're probably right, wishful thinking on my part. The light-heavyweight scene in Europe is p!ss poor at the moment so they really are in the sh!t for getting a replacement
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:20
by stujones
Superheavy wrote:Danny Macintosh?
Been a month since he was stopped?
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:21
by Glyn Leach
earsjohn wrote:Glyn Leach wrote: That said, even as it stands this is a far stronger show than Khan-McCloskey.
Far stronger? Really?
At the moment, the Sky show is:
BJ Saunders v Hammond
Frankie Gavin v Young Mutley
James Degale v George Groves
Nathan Cleverly v TBA
The Khan card had:
Khan v McCloskey
Purdy v Watson
Murray v Carvalho
Munroe v Isaeu
The Warren card has name value but arguably no competitive merit (the poll in your own magazine showed little support for Groves), while Khan card had at least one 50:50 fight. Including the likes of Sam Sexton, Nicky Cook, Paul Smith will add to the name value but will further detract from the competitiveness. Once again Warren is suffering from his reluctance to put his fighters in risky fights, as the only fight on this card approaching even money was Cleverly v Braehmer and it is now scrapped.
The one person who benefits most from all this will be Eddie Hearn, who has been banging the drum about competitive fights recently and this goes to prove him right.
You've got a point there Ears
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:21
by BillyTKid
Kariz Kariuki who is ranked 8th by the WBO is scheduled to fight in 10 days. He has a record of 23-9-2, so I would assume not too much danger.
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:21
by Counter-puncher
Newport Daz wrote:The_Don1 wrote:Zsolt Erdei’s due to be fighting Byron Mitchell on 4th June so he should be in training, if FW can pull a wedge out, he’d be a fair replacement for him to have a crack at getting his title back.
Good call, but i'd expect us to get Mitchell instead!
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:23
by earsjohn
can Audley get down to 175?
Yes He Can! It's his destiny.
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:23
by stujones
Glyn Leach wrote:This definitely puts Sky in a tricky position. As someone mentioned, they could be accused of double-standards here after the Khan fiasco — and the Khan faction are bound to be livid if Saturday goes ahead as a PPV, so Sky might want to bring their future relationship with Khan into the equation. That said, even as it stands this is a far stronger show than Khan-McCloskey. PPV level? Not in my opinion, despite DeGale-Groves being a very strong main event. But the big difference between this show and Khan-McCloskey is that we're in fight week now, many viewers will already have ordered the PPV — it hurts more to give money back than it does not to take it in the first place, and Sky are all about the money.
Interestingly, I couldn't order the PPV yesterday - I tried.... I wonder I wonder. Never attempted to order a PPV so early before, so is it too early to order, or was something on the cards before this?
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:24
by stujones
Can we please stop giving awful suggestions, it might trigger of some ideas in various headquarters and we'll end up having to fork out £15 for Degale vs Groves and a shit WBO title fight.
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:24
by taffytoon
I have paid over £700 for this weekend
The German should be ashamed
Nathan was and is in amazing shape but has prepared for a Southpaw. Terrible news
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:25
by Glyn Leach
The Board wouldn't let McIntosh fight, he's currently under suspension like any fighter who gets stopped. Personally I'd like to see Bomber get a shot at Clev — you know it wouldn't be dull.
That's interesting Stu — I could (and did) order it yesterday. I wonder what that means?
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:26
by SteveDow
taffytoon wrote:I have paid over £700 for this weekend
The German should be ashamed
Nathan was and is in amazing shape but has prepared for a Southpaw. Terrible news
Calzaghe??
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:29
by danfoster
earsjohn wrote:Is there a realistic chance it could be Maccarinelli?
i would refuse to watch it if so for the same reasons that i dont hang around at the local abbatoir ... macca should be enjoying a very hard earned retirement, not jumping back in with a dangerous young kid with something to prove like Clev
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:29
by stujones
Glyn Leach wrote:This definitely puts Sky in a tricky position. As someone mentioned, they could be accused of double-standards here after the Khan fiasco — and the Khan faction are bound to be livid if Saturday goes ahead as a PPV, so Sky might want to bring their future relationship with Khan into the equation. That said, even as it stands this is a far stronger show than Khan-McCloskey. PPV level? Not in my opinion, despite DeGale-Groves being a very strong main event. But the big difference between this show and Khan-McCloskey is that we're in fight week now, many viewers will already have ordered the PPV — it hurts more to give money back than it does not to take it in the first place, and Sky are all about the money.
But what reaks the most if this remains - is that Sky were not promoting the undercard of McCloskey vs Khan, so really whether it was Peter Buckley vs Peter McNeeley or Mayweather vs Pacquiao - it shouldn't matter in terms of the non boxing fantatic purse pockets.
Sky felt at one stage, McCloskey vs Khan could sell on its own merit - they changed their mind. This PPV has been packaged very differently and its one of the fights heavily promoted that has been severely damaged.
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:33
by danfoster
Special prize for anyone who can tell me which German TV network bought the rights to this fight ...
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:37
by iwz678
Braehmer is a disgrace to Boxing, knew this was going to happen and now we are left with Cleverly either not fighting, or fighting some bum :(
This bill isnt worth £15 now, DeGale v Groves may be a big rivalry, but as mentioned already it's a British title fight.
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:42
by nh1
taffytoon wrote:I have paid over £700 for this weekend Terrible news
Yes, indeed. It's all very well talking about saving the PPV for those who were only going to pay £15. But what about those of us who have already spent far too much on tickets, travel, etc.?
The irony of all of this is that FW was recently quite rightly slagging off those boxers who promote themselves and aren't interested in stumping up to provide PPV shows with a strong undercard to offer value for the punters (Khan, Haye).
But this show never had a strong undercard either; which means that if one of the 2 cracking fights gets pulled, the qualiity of the show is damaged immeasurably. And the punters suffer.
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:44
by taffytoon
Oh well just spoke to the hotel and I can cancel, also not going up if Nath is not fighting. I will still pay the £15 to watch Degale v Groves fight and order a take away
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:45
by Eraserhead
I reckon it ends up being this guy...
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
Southpaw, Spanish and shite. Seems to fit the bill.
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:51
by brian13
This is typical Universium, if the fight isn't in Germany. They don't want to fight even if they sign the contract.
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:51
by black panther
Mate he's far from shite - he'd be a very worthy opponent at 3 days notice. He beat Garay and Shumenov in their own back yards and was blatently robbed in the Shumenov rematch.
Re: Braehmer-Cleverly off
Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:53
by DougieC30
I think it will be Capillo. The spanish guy that boxed bebuit twice