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Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 30 May 2011, 17:22
by Giancarlo
simon fox wrote:I was a nasty young man and spent a short spell in Hull Prison, on the YP wing. Sykes was in there at the time, on the other wing. He was feared and there was talk of prison rapes and nasty beatings etc. I don't think that a film should be made of him; I watched that documentary and all he seemed to do was terrorise people and his boss with the yellow Rolls Royce was just as odious. Sykes didn't seem to change or develop and so he's not that interesting; there are similar men in every big town or city in the country. Just because he didn't paste people when he was sober when he was out doesn't mean he was a decent or good man. (He'd not have been drunk when he was taxing and raping his way through jail).
The possibility of getting bummed and / or battered by Sykes might have been responsible for stopping some people re-offending. Subconsciously, Sykes may have helped straighten you out Simon.
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 30 May 2011, 20:12
by IRLangmaid25
I know that he has been panned in some quarters for his appearances on Sky, and I am amazed that we have not mentioned one Ivanson Ranny Nelson (or to the rest of us Johnny Nelson). Loses his first three fights in the paid ranks, gets together wins the British Cruiser title. From 1992 to 1995 his fortunes flucuate drops down to Cruiserweight and then goes on a roll racks 13 defences of the WBO cruiserweight title and finishes as a World champion.
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 30 May 2011, 20:57
by dewipowell
'Peerless' Jim Driscoll. I'm sure anyone who knows his story is inspired to be a better person.
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 31 May 2011, 02:26
by forcefraser
Giancarlo wrote:simon fox wrote:I was a nasty young man and spent a short spell in Hull Prison, on the YP wing. Sykes was in there at the time, on the other wing. He was feared and there was talk of prison rapes and nasty beatings etc. I don't think that a film should be made of him; I watched that documentary and all he seemed to do was terrorise people and his boss with the yellow Rolls Royce was just as odious. Sykes didn't seem to change or develop and so he's not that interesting; there are similar men in every big town or city in the country. Just because he didn't paste people when he was sober when he was out doesn't mean he was a decent or good man. (He'd not have been drunk when he was taxing and raping his way through jail).
The possibility of getting bummed and / or battered by Sykes might have been responsible for stopping some people re-offending. Subconsciously, Sykes may have helped straighten you out Simon.
Facing a possible Syksey arse assault would have been enough to scare most people onto the straight and narrow, I would have thought.
Three basic rules for survival when approached by a pissed up Sykes
1) Never have your hands in your pockets
2) Tell him you played rugby and have done ever since you can remember
3) Agree with him that skipping is the best exercise known to man or beast.
If you followed those rules, you were on the road to safety and indeed, had an over average chance of being announced to his crowd of hangers-on, as "A fornicate*ng great c*nt"
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 31 May 2011, 04:25
by mickey1975
simon fox wrote:mickey1975 wrote:forcefraser wrote:
I`m originally from Wakefield and lived on the same council estate as Sykes. I saw him take a couple of beatings, but it was always a gang that did him and always when he was hammered on the booze. Usually a pack of lads from Leeds or Sheffield, never Wakefield as they would not take the risk. He used to terrorize doormen all the time.
Sober and in shape, there were not too many that could handle him in a street fight. Scared me to death at times. Booze was his downfall, as he was no real problem when sober (at least as far as Joe Public were concerned)
That just about confirms everything i saw with my own eyes. The people claiming victories over him did it when he was drunk. As i said, a seriously handy guy sober. I am too young to remember him in his prime but used to see him about shows when i was a teen. He was still unbelievebly feared then.
I was a nasty young man and spent a short spell in Hull Prison, on the YP wing. Sykes was in there at the time, on the other wing. He was feared and there was talk of prison rapes and nasty beatings etc. I don't think that a film should be made of him; I watched that documentary and all he seemed to do was terrorise people and his boss with the yellow Rolls Royce was just as odious. Sykes didn't seem to change or develop and so he's not that interesting; there are similar men in every big town or city in the country. Just because he didn't paste people when he was sober when he was out doesn't mean he was a decent or good man. (He'd not have been drunk when he was taxing and raping his way through jail).
The YP wing was a lot better than "hep" C wing! BTW, i dont think he deserves a film either, i was just responding to someone else bringing him up.
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 31 May 2011, 09:25
by palooka
Giancarlo wrote:simon fox wrote:I was a nasty young man and spent a short spell in Hull Prison, on the YP wing. Sykes was in there at the time, on the other wing. He was feared and there was talk of prison rapes and nasty beatings etc. I don't think that a film should be made of him; I watched that documentary and all he seemed to do was terrorise people and his boss with the yellow Rolls Royce was just as odious. Sykes didn't seem to change or develop and so he's not that interesting; there are similar men in every big town or city in the country. Just because he didn't paste people when he was sober when he was out doesn't mean he was a decent or good man. (He'd not have been drunk when he was taxing and raping his way through jail).
The possibility of getting bummed and / or battered by Sykes might have been responsible for stopping some people re-offending. Subconsciously, Sykes may have helped straighten you out Simon.
Thinking about it; yes, I think you're right
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 22 Dec 2022, 20:31
by marktaha
Flashing Blade wrote: ↑24 May 2011, 12:24
I know that Robert Carlyle was trying to put together a film about the life of Benny Lynch for years but there was a lot of opposition from Benny's surviving relatives.
Was once a TV play about him.
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 22 Dec 2022, 20:33
by marktaha
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑24 May 2011, 16:41
Not an English fighter, but I'd love to see James McAvoy play Stanley Ketchel. Maybe when I've my short film and become the next Stanley Kubrick, I'll make it.
Jock.McAvoy Jack.Doyle
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 22 Dec 2022, 20:36
by marktaha
Giancarlo wrote: ↑25 May 2011, 16:56
Good old Sykes!
"Running a protection racket in Blackpool"..
Brilliant!
Saw that documentary. Biopic would make a good film but came across as one of the nastiest people I've ever seen.
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 23 Dec 2022, 05:45
by Steveh583
Dave81 wrote: ↑24 May 2011, 14:27
mickey1975 wrote:Dave81 wrote:
Sykes almost got it on with Lenny Mclean, that would of been tastey
Lenny would have been in trouble. He was nowhere near the standard Sykes boxed at.
We'll never know, i'd bet my life on Lenny if it would of been on the cobbles, but in the ring im not sure.
What could Lenny do ‘on the cobbles’ that Sykes couldn’t? Cracks me up when people think it’s some kind of great equaliser and competent pro’s will suddenly be rendered incompetent in a match fight vs glorified doormen.
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 23 Dec 2022, 05:50
by Steveh583
banjo wrote: ↑27 May 2011, 09:04
Coco wrote:It's only McClean who said he was unbeatable on the cobbles, would have beaten Ali etc
Didn't McClean get sparked by Roy Shaw on the cobbles or was that in an unlicensed bout?
A light heavy from Southampton sparked mcclean. Kevin paddock I believe
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 23 Dec 2022, 15:02
by JamesPhilips
I think Freddie Mills would be very interesting. Some real conspiracies here. A lot of material
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 23 Dec 2022, 15:50
by Verdi
Top Boy style movie with Dillian Whyte growing up.
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 23 Dec 2022, 23:55
by TheLeprechaun
Richard Evatt for me.
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 24 Dec 2022, 00:03
by coneye
palooka wrote: ↑31 May 2011, 09:25
Giancarlo wrote:simon fox wrote:I was a nasty young man and spent a short spell in Hull Prison, on the YP wing. Sykes was in there at the time, on the other wing. He was feared and there was talk of prison rapes and nasty beatings etc. I don't think that a film should be made of him; I watched that documentary and all he seemed to do was terrorise people and his boss with the yellow Rolls Royce was just as odious. Sykes didn't seem to change or develop and so he's not that interesting; there are similar men in every big town or city in the country. Just because he didn't paste people when he was sober when he was out doesn't mean he was a decent or good man. (He'd not have been drunk when he was taxing and raping his way through jail).
The possibility of getting bummed and / or battered by Sykes might have been responsible for stopping some people re-offending. Subconsciously, Sykes may have helped straighten you out Simon.
Thinking about it; yes, I think you're right
So its settled then Sykes was'nt a violent , bisexual rapists with a penchant for violence ,,, he was really just doing social work , and encouraging boys and men to stay out of prison
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 24 Dec 2022, 00:06
by SticknMove
Or Peter Buckley....
The artistic license of either's appeal have general acceptance.
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 24 Dec 2022, 15:29
by polecateddy
Naz probably. By a country mile!
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 24 Dec 2022, 16:39
by foggyneedham
Jimmy Vincent
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 25 Dec 2022, 08:22
by golden_labrador
polecateddy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2022, 15:29
Naz probably. By a country mile!
definitely
Apparently something in the works, but seeing as it's in the Daily Star...
https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/people/f ... ar-3898866
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 25 Dec 2022, 08:27
by JamesPhilips
polecateddy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2022, 15:29
Naz probably. By a country mile!
Why? His personal life is not that interesting
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 25 Dec 2022, 09:04
by dapug
Tony Booth
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 25 Dec 2022, 09:17
by Steveh583
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑25 Dec 2022, 08:27
polecateddy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2022, 15:29
Naz probably. By a country mile!
Why? His personal life is not that interesting
Yeah it would be so dull. Train, go ho home, win titles, get married, have kids, lose, retire, get fat, half kill someone, become a recluse.
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 25 Dec 2022, 11:46
by stujones
Enzo Calzaghe
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 25 Dec 2022, 13:46
by dookus
Dillian Whyte, although the ending would be pretty meh
Re: Which British ex-boxer would make a great movie???
Posted: 26 Dec 2022, 01:25
by Cyclops
Verdi wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 15:50
Top Boy style movie with Dillian Whyte growing up.
Yuck no thanks!
Why not “Yo Stay Humble I’m a Gangster Me”, the story of Big Anthony Joshua’s rise through the mean streets of Watford before his shocking prison hell of one month on remand, where he turned a corner reading Big Meech’s memoirs in his cell?
Guy Ritchie can direct it.