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johnswan1 wrote:Lee is set to fight on the undercard, probably in a rematch with Vera.

Apparently Eddie Hearn has told DiBella that Barker will take more fans to the States than Froch or Khan did. I'm not sure there's much truth in that but Martinez has not been a ticket seller in the past so I can see the attraction if they're buying that.

The fight goes to HBO today for approval but DeBella says it will go ahead regardless as they can't stall his career while they're waiting around for HBO dates and opponents willing to fight.

Lee sold more tickets at Foxwoods than Martinez, McEwan and Dzinziruk combined. To be fair that wasnt hard.

johnswan1 wrote:Lee is set to fight on the undercard, probably in a rematch with Vera.

Apparently Eddie Hearn has told DiBella that Barker will take more fans to the States than Froch or Khan did. I'm not sure there's much truth in that but Martinez has not been a ticket seller in the past so I can see the attraction if they're buying that.

The fight goes to HBO today for approval but DeBella says it will go ahead regardless as they can't stall his career while they're waiting around for HBO dates and opponents willing to fight.

So how many tickets has Eddie told DiBella that barker is going to sell, Barker only done about 500 for his last fight and I cannot see all of them spending the money and making the trip to America. I feel DiBella is in for a right shock.

Martinez is all wrong for him. Far too quick and unorthadox for a technical boxer with as little world class experience as Barker.

He might do well enough to see spurts of success, enough to win a few rounds, maybe, in the long run it won't matter though. Dzinziruk was boxing beautifully at times but it's just not enough. Without serious stopping power, a straightforward boxer's going to come up short against a multifaceted phenom like Martinez.

That said, I think McEwan would be about as perfect a sparring partner as you could ask for in preparation for Martinez. Lot of similarites between those two. If Barker could wrangle that, he'd at least be setting himself up on as firm a foundation as he can.

ringsider wrote:no suprise to see slapbang on here slating our own boxer in darren barker and singing the praises of the irish. this was a forum to discuss martinez v barker so would be an idea to take your macklin/lee chat elsewhere. lets get behind our boxers and hope that britain/ireland have as many world champions as pos. there's one thing voicing an opinion and then there's being spiteful to the point where you begin to look like you really dislike someone and come across very jealous and obsessed with hope that barker fail

eh? listen you little weirdo stalker, if you read my posts I said that both Lee and Barker would both get beat if they fought Martinez now.

is this fight for a title?

boxrec doesn't have martinez listed as holding a title.

he beat williams for the wbc strap then chaves jr won it from someone else 6 months later. what am i missing here???

davie wrote:is this fight for a title?

boxrec doesn't have martinez listed as holding a title.

he beat williams for the wbc strap then chaves jr won it from someone else 6 months later. what am i missing here???

If I remember rightly, Martinez got elavated to WBC "Champion Emeritus".

He is also The Ring's Middleweight king, I think.

slapbangwhallop wrote:

johnswan1 wrote:Lee is set to fight on the undercard, probably in a rematch with Vera.

Apparently Eddie Hearn has told DiBella that Barker will take more fans to the States than Froch or Khan did. I'm not sure there's much truth in that but Martinez has not been a ticket seller in the past so I can see the attraction if they're buying that.

The fight goes to HBO today for approval but DeBella says it will go ahead regardless as they can't stall his career while they're waiting around for HBO dates and opponents willing to fight.

Lee sold more tickets at Foxwoods than Martinez, McEwan and Dzinziruk combined. To be fair that wasnt hard.

yes, he is a ticket seller. and he was good at the end of the fight, making up for the dismal middle rounds he suffered vs mcewan. that's why i think the moment lee gives the appearance of being a world class fighter, he will get a shot at martinez, who is struggling to find opponents.

if lee can add something to the impressive ending vs mcewan (on the upside, it was a dramatic fight), i reckon he will be challenging martinez soon. obviously martinez wants chavez jr pretty urgently, because chavez now has martinez's title, and chavez jr is also a good ticket seller (and probably gets good ratings on TV) to boot.

the HBO commentators did not seem impressed at all vs lee, in the mcewan fight, and didn't seem to take him seriously as potential a challenger to martinez.

Terrrrry wrote:

davie wrote:is this fight for a title?

boxrec doesn't have martinez listed as holding a title.

he beat williams for the wbc strap then chaves jr won it from someone else 6 months later. what am i missing here???

If I remember rightly, Martinez got elavated to WBC "Champion Emeritus".

He is also The Ring's Middleweight king, I think.

he certainly is. and also the lineal champ - he beat pavlik who beat taylor who beat hopkins.

Martinez tko in 6

anyone capable of answering these questions?

have HBO approved barker?

what are chances of HBO approving after ryan rhodes' (you'd have to say) passive display vs saul alvarez?

will sergio's team really go ahead with it if HBO don't approve? will eddie hearn be able to bring martinez over here if not?

have both men signed contracts?

why is barker lining up another EBU title defense? any major US network would not let him, as injuries/defeat would jeopardise the TV date...

Autobarn wrote:anyone capable of answering these questions?

have HBO approved barker?

what are chances of HBO approving after ryan rhodes' (you'd have to say) passive display vs saul alvarez?

will sergio's team really go ahead with it if HBO don't approve? will eddie hearn be able to bring martinez over here if not?

have both men signed contracts?

why is barker lining up another EBU title defense? any major US network would not let him, as injuries/defeat would jeopardise the TV date...

Dan Ray-feel tweeted yesterday...

Was told that HBO has approved Darren Barker as the opponent for @maravillabox on Oct. 1. But HBO and @loudibella still haggling over $$.

about time HBO stopped being so strict with martinez's competition.

obviously they have insisted on the best and sergio has produced amazing performances. good that he's been allowed a one-off, vs a name of interest to us british posters.

i think martinez'll be fighting europeans the rest of his career. dzinziruk fight has set the path. sergio will never get a ratings darling like alvarez or chavez jr, or a PPV star like mayweather or pac. - his legacy will be that he took on the best of america (pavlik, williams, cintron) AND europe (dzinziruk, and so on...), a true world champ. provided he keeps on winning.

golovkin has been training in america, comes off an exciting win over ouma & has the amateur pedigree - and a fraction of one of the world titles. pirog won a title impressively on HBO and wants martinez. if WBA-holder sturm beats macklin as expected, sturm has talked of his wish to impress the US fans and take on martinez in the states...if macklin beats sturm, that's another interesting name capable of getting HBO's approval.