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Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 25 Jun 2011, 19:59
by hurlock
pat cowdell must of been up there his record sugests he was a class operator but the proffesor took him out bad :!:
it was known mguigan didnt want no paRt of him & wazza kept him away from naz despite his age.if only there was other routes
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 25 Jun 2011, 20:04
by reggaereggae
hurlock wrote:pat cowdell must of been up there his record sugests he was a class operator but the proffesor took him out bad :!:
it was known mguigan didnt want no paRt of him & wazza kept him away from naz despite his age.if only there was other routes
Interestingly I also thing Barry underperformed
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 04:06
by mickey1975
Some of the names popping up on this thread are British boxing legends! They have hardly flopped. British and European champions can also claim a good career!
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 27 Jun 2011, 03:32
by JamesH
I had thought John Fewkes was destined for British and maybe European. Michael Maguire was another who I thought would be challenging for titles at this stage. Don Broadhurst, although I hope he can get back in the mix. After his next fight, perhaps Kevin Mitchell will be on the list...
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 27 Jun 2011, 04:56
by Lenny
Matthew Thirwell for me, very surprising lack of form as a pro
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 27 Jun 2011, 04:59
by Lenny
mickey1975 wrote:Some of the names popping up on this thread are British boxing legends! They have hardly flopped. British and European champions can also claim a good career!
Well it's relative. If Frankie Gavin for example finishes his career with only a British title to his name then I think people could say he flopped (obviously depending on the circumstances).
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 04:30
by Old bones Ian
Matt W wrote:I remember reading a lot about Francisco Bojado being a sure world champion but it never worked out that way.
Looks like a good call there mate, he was just arrested for suspicion of driving under the influence, driving with a suspended license, evading arrest, possession of drug paraphernalia and hit and run late Thursday evening in San Diego.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 04:57
by hurlock
Lenny wrote:Matthew Thirwell for me, very surprising lack of form as a pro
Thirlwall. he was amazing in the aba's. he was like nigel benn the way he went in & attacked. very exciting.
i dont think mcracken was really right for him or understood him as a person.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 06:47
by addi
i thought errol christie was gonna go all the way, he was a top amature but unfortunatly for him his chin wasn't good enough.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 06:53
by deadpan
Mathew Ellis
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 12:28
by whiskey
World honours aside, some lads at domestic level I thought would perhaps capture a lonsdale belt outright.
I never thought Young Mutley would ever be a world champion. But the way he timed and out-muscled Mick Jennings made me think he would be around for a while at domestic level then he just got battered.
David Barnes was another supposedly big deal, but not seen anything of him since 2009 either.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 13:57
by Rambo
Naseem Hamed, the 2000s should of been his time, probably regrets it himself
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 15:50
by manno
reggaereggae wrote:Insider wrote:banjo wrote:While I don't think he'd ever have been a world champion, George Hillyard is more talented than his record shows.
Great shout
George has had loads of out of ring issues. I saw him spar aged 16 and he looked sensational. Still young enough to do something. Like Ed I remember being v impressed by Alan temple. And if you believe the ingles, khaliq shafeeq!
Khaleed was never goin to make it brother, never seen a kid believe his own hype before he got any hype(if ya know what i mean?). Fewkes is a good shout tho', interestingly both were trained by Glyn Rhodes from the 1st time they laced on gloves. Wouldn't put Bomber in the flop catergery tho- lost by warnings to 1 of the best l-middles/middles of modern era and got sparked by 1 of the greatest 1 punch middles of all time when dominating. He had some great wins.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 16:18
by wesley05
iamasadlittleboy wrote:Ryan Rhodes. I know I'm being harsh but come on...he looked...wow as a youngster...then...failed to really reach the heights (sadly).
You for real he's fought ..ok lost for 3 world titles last time out against the next world superstar he's got the talent to still become a world champ ... A little bit harsh how many people has fought for world titles especially WBC in Mexico
great call you really are a tool son
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 16:21
by wesley05
Jon Saxon wrote:Hamed & Rhodes & Dodson.
Ha ha thought you was on about naz lol
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 05:41
by Neri
I always feel Shea Neary could have went alot further than he did. Hugely popular in Liverpool and a very good fighter it's surprising that he never even fought for the British title. He was in some tough scraps and always gave you a brawl but I feel his best days were wasted on defending the WBU title when he could have been competing for genuine titles. He didn't flop but he could went alot further than he did.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 05:59
by Jon Saxon
kamicazze wrote:Bomber 1 wrote:I see it as fighters who could have/should have won and done more than they did, there are various excuses for each one but I feel they were all very good fighters!
Oboh
Culshaw
Richard Williams
Dean Francis
I'd say Mike Brodie but I think it was the robbery against Jorrin that really done him in! I think had he got the decision he deserved that night then I think he'd have gone on to bigger things! We all know he deserved the W that night! I think he'd have done great as WBC champion..
Bomber 1 wrote:I see it as fighters who could have/should have won and done more than they did, there are various excuses for each one but I feel they were all very good fighters!
Oboh
Culshaw
Richard Williams
Dean Francis
I'd say Mike Brodie but I think it was the robbery against Jorrin that really done him in! I think had he got the decision he deserved that night then I think he'd have gone on to bigger things! We all know he deserved the W that night! I think he'd have done great as WBC champion..
Ive actually read about how good Dean Francis was. Back in the late 90's/early 00's there were stories that Calzaghe didnt want to fight him incase Francis 'found himself'
Lol mate Joe blasted him out and would have again with ease.
Dean was out very own Jeff Lacy (thought funnily enough Dean had a GREAT left hook and Lacy didn't) but could have been a champ.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 06:16
by twenty six
I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here.
To describe the likes of Moore, Hamed Rhodes etc as flops is a disgrace.
Add up the number of titles won between them.
OK maybe the EXPECTATION was higher than the achievement - but flops ........ do me a favour.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 07:04
by Jon Saxon
twenty six wrote:I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here.
To describe the likes of Moore, Hamed Rhodes etc as flops is a disgrace.
Add up the number of titles won between them.
OK maybe the EXPECTATION was higher than the achievement - but flops ........ do me a favour.
Fair point so why dont you tell us a "flop"?
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 07:29
by hurlock
flopped is a poor word to use i agree.it's basically fighters who never reached there full potential or looked like they was storming the top but never got there.
i think naz left a decent legacy, he was a great champion but i believe fan's potentially saw him as the greatest feather.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 07:32
by twenty six
I have a liitle bit of respect for every fighter mate.
Anyone who puts his head between the ropes professionally deserves that.
Language such as "flop" "bottler" etc I just never use.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 07:39
by hurlock
like i said i didnt articulate it well.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 09:51
by Jon Saxon
twenty six wrote:I have a liitle bit of respect for every fighter mate.
Anyone who puts his head between the ropes professionally deserves that.
Language such as "flop" "bottler" etc I just never use.
Mate i get your respect for fighters but Bruno's arse colapsed in Tyson 2
And I think Ryan Rhodes of old would have moved in to try to take the ginger out.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 09:55
by FTMPRESS1
Kirkland Laing - not a flop but so talented and never achieved what he could or should have.
Re: fighter's that you felt would make it but flopped!
Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 09:56
by Jon Saxon
Matt W wrote:Two other hyped heavies spring to mind - Shannon Briggs & Jorge Luis Gonzalez. Briggs didn't have a bad career but was spoken of as the next big thing and was far from it.
Oh, and Michael Grant.
Did you know that nice guy Shannon went up to Gonzalez to shake his hand only to be bitch slapped by the big nutter!
Michael Grant was HBO's attempt to manufacture a bigger US version of Lennox!!!
They failed!