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Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 10:38
by LeedsLad
I was sat in an area with plenty of Scousers and Taffys, pretty much everyone around me had Bellew in a comfortable lead after ten rounds. The Welsh lad next to me said that he felt Cleverly needed a knockout going into the 11th.
I had Tony ahead by a couple, most of the rounds were close and pretty hard to score.... but not to a point where you could have either more than a couple ahead. Five is just daft, typical British officials I'm afraid.
Hopefully we might get the rematch, if not I'd like to see Bellew up at cruiser.
I did say before the fight that Bellew would be best served boxing rather than slugging, and so it proved. In the isolated times where they were brawling he was clearly second best, but he gave Nathan a lesson at times with his jab and footwork, it's to his credit that he upped the ante in the last couple to edge Tony out.
Hopefully there won't be too many ''I've always thought he was overrated anyway'' comments going around, both lads gave it their all and proved themselves.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 10:45
by dbf
So impressed with Bellew's performance, didn't think he would do that well. He was out jabbing Clev and at times looked far classier. I thought he was the better boxer in there, just got out manned a little but thats down to experience.
Can't see Clev troubling any of the top guys. Think he needs to go back to basics a bit.
Tony you did yourself proud and pushed Nathan right till the end - showing tremendous heart and desire. When you boxed at range and fired 2-3 straight shots you looked like the real deal.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 12:22
by NazNaci1
Great fight Tony and a great performance.
Many were saying that you would lose big, couldn't outbox him, would be out of your depth etc.
A few of us knew you had the boxing skills to match him and you did. Tight, tight fight. Above everything Nathan has great stamina and that, probably proved the only decisive thing in the last round and a half.
It was that close. A round or 2.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 13:30
by mrbassie
Bomber 1 wrote:I said I would come back on here and I'm here, I wanna say thank you to all of you, i appreciate it so much, it was a hard fight, I honestly feel I won 6 rounds but with him bring champion I think I needed 8, I respect him so much and he's a good fighter and a good guy, I gave it everything in there, I just switched off at times but that's down to his great speed too!
I'm truly devastated to lose but once again I give credit, he's a good fighter!
Thank you everyone and I'll be back from this setback xx
I think you were robbed mate. It was give and take but I saw you landing better punches and more of them, watched the fight with my brother and as soon as the final bell tolled I said 'bet there's a dodgy decision', he agreed and then there was.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 13:43
by Tykemania
dbf wrote:Can't see Clev troubling any of the top guys. Think he needs to go back to basics a bit.
Are we perhaps expecting a bit much of a 24 year old who is perhaps as much as three to five years from his peak? Personally I couldn't see him living with Dawson, Cloud etc right now but, with better training, he may well get there in a few years time.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 14:11
by JDC
johnnygreaves wrote:For what its worth , me , my brother frank, & 4 other big boxing fans had it a draw. You can see how some would have scored for Nathan but , Jesus , 5 rounds . Sorry but was the guy watching the fight.
I also had it a draw. Not sure how Dave Parris gets work, 117

(Well i am pretty sure. Not saying he get backhanders in any way, but he knows which promotor will give him the most work)
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 14:18
by JDC
Bomber 1 wrote:I said I would come back on here and I'm here, I wanna say thank you to all of you, i appreciate it so much, it was a hard fight, I honestly feel I won 6 rounds but with him bring champion I think I needed 8, I respect him so much and he's a good fighter and a good guy, I gave it everything in there, I just switched off at times but that's down to his great speed too!
I'm truly devastated to lose but once again I give credit, he's a good fighter!
Thank you everyone and I'll be back from this setback xx
You surprised me in all honesty. You raised your game 10 fold from some of your recent fights and you've proved to deserve to be at World level. I expected a lobsided walkover and you proved me wrong with a great performance. Hold your head up high, on another day you may have got the nod

Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 14:44
by Darcy Delaney
great fight by two great sportsmen respect goes out to them both, but did anyone see the ref at the end mouthing the scores to himself, i was trying to see if he was reading from a screen but couldn't see if there was one above the ring.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 14:50
by taffytoon
mrbassie wrote:Bomber 1 wrote:I said I would come back on here and I'm here, I wanna say thank you to all of you, i appreciate it so much, it was a hard fight, I honestly feel I won 6 rounds but with him bring champion I think I needed 8, I respect him so much and he's a good fighter and a good guy, I gave it everything in there, I just switched off at times but that's down to his great speed too!
I'm truly devastated to lose but once again I give credit, he's a good fighter!
Thank you everyone and I'll be back from this setback xx
I think you were robbed mate. It was give and take but I saw you landing better punches and more of them, watched the fight with my brother and as soon as the final bell tolled I said 'bet there's a dodgy decision', he agreed and then there was.
PLEASE
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Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 14:55
by Dan Dares
Bomber 1 wrote:I said I would come back on here and I'm here, I wanna say thank you to all of you, i appreciate it so much, it was a hard fight, I honestly feel I won 6 rounds but with him bring champion I think I needed 8, I respect him so much and he's a good fighter and a good guy, I gave it everything in there, I just switched off at times but that's down to his great speed too!
I'm truly devastated to lose but once again I give credit, he's a good fighter!
Thank you everyone and I'll be back from this setback xx
Setback my arse
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/bellew ... t-cleverly
Great performance, great fight.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 15:13
by stujones
Your speed suprised me alot Tony, fantastic display (in and out of the ring) and you'll be back.
I aint sure an immediate rematch will be in your best interest in my opinion, I feel you could do with a couple more W's under your belt - maybe go a different route before the rematch. Thats just my opinion - I think your pre fight tactics of getting under his skin were spot on and you need to try it again - not sure how you could it in an immediate rematch - got to show Clev you've learned from the fight and are better fighter and you need to do that by showing the improvements.
You absolutely gave it your all - I was so impressed with your start, I honestly thought though that at around the 6th that you were slowing up (understandable) and thought it was looking bad..... but my you sucked it up and shut me up! I take my hat off Tony.
Class act, the pair of you..... glad my little "hope" for the fight turned out to be correct.... just wanted there to be a good fight and mutual respect shown.
Enticing Brian Magee to a Light Heavyweight fight would be a good start.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 18:13
by ValleysGav
Bomber 1 wrote:I said I would come back on here and I'm here, I wanna say thank you to all of you, i appreciate it so much, it was a hard fight, I honestly feel I won 6 rounds but with him bring champion I think I needed 8, I respect him so much and he's a good fighter and a good guy, I gave it everything in there, I just switched off at times but that's down to his great speed too!
I'm truly devastated to lose but once again I give credit, he's a good fighter!
Thank you everyone and I'll be back from this setback xx
Well done tony.great fight.i think it took 12 tough rounds for you both to earn each others respect,but happened in the end.your both good young fighters and a feel another contest when your both at your peak would be great.being a clev fan,you've certainly earned my respect after this fight.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 19:37
by dbf
Tykemania wrote:dbf wrote:Can't see Clev troubling any of the top guys. Think he needs to go back to basics a bit.
Are we perhaps expecting a bit much of a 24 year old who is perhaps as much as three to five years from his peak? Personally I couldn't see him living with Dawson, Cloud etc right now but, with better training, he may well get there in a few years time.
Not really expecting much considering he is a 'world' champion.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 06:44
by Twinkle Toes
A couple of fights to early for Tony in my opinion - Fair dues for going for it, and also for the excellent display, but I think the Bomber would have had his number with a couple more fights under his belt.
Tony showed a great jab and landed it well. That surprised me a bit, because I rated Clev as the better boxer. I didn't expect to see Clev being out jabbed or to see him having to work so hard.
Clev probably has the edge in natural athleticism which helps him to be an awkward fuckér to fight. He has a lot of movement and an excellent engine, I thought it hinged on the last round myself, and Clev took that one.
He seems a nice guy does Nathan, and Tony's stock has only risen - I think both fighters have come out of this one really well. I hope that Bellow can keep focused for his next few fights, he should take inspiration from this one and not dwell on it too much.
Best wishes to both fighters.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 06:52
by Counter-puncher
Twinkle Toes wrote:A couple of fights to early for Tony in my opinion - Fair dues for going for it, and also for the excellent display, but I think the Bomber would have had his number with a couple more fights under his belt.
Tony showed a great jab and landed it well. That surprised me a bit, because I rated Clev as the better boxer. I didn't expect to see Clev being out jabbed or to see him having to work so hard.
Clev probably has the edge in natural athleticism which helps him to be an awkward fuckér to fight. He has a lot of movement and an excellent engine, I thought it hinged on the last round myself, and Clev took that one.
He seems a nice guy does Nathan, and Tony's stock has only risen - I think both fighters have come out of this one really well. I hope that Bellow can keep focused for his next few fights, he should take inspiration from this one and not dwell on it too much.
Best wishes to both fighters.
good post fella
a lot of people were rating Clev as some kind of boxer and I (and a few others) have been saying all along that he isn't.
he was much better when he pushed the pace up. he's basically a tall, athletic pressure-fighter.

Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 09:20
by Counter-puncher
keithmoonhangover wrote:Bomber 1 wrote:I said I would come back on here and I'm here, I wanna say thank you to all of you, i appreciate it so much, it was a hard fight, I honestly feel I won 6 rounds but with him bring champion I think I needed 8, I respect him so much and he's a good fighter and a good guy, I gave it everything in there, I just switched off at times but that's down to his great speed too!
I'm truly devastated to lose but once again I give credit, he's a good fighter!
Thank you everyone and I'll be back from this setback xx
The forum has a fighter and gentleman we can be trully proud of. Well done mate.

yep, typical of the man. its why i get annoyed when we on the forum get accused of crawling up his arse for stating the obvious, as you did above keith good man, that Tony is a really good guy

Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 09:28
by keithmoonhangover
Counter-puncher wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Bomber 1 wrote:I said I would come back on here and I'm here, I wanna say thank you to all of you, i appreciate it so much, it was a hard fight, I honestly feel I won 6 rounds but with him bring champion I think I needed 8, I respect him so much and he's a good fighter and a good guy, I gave it everything in there, I just switched off at times but that's down to his great speed too!
I'm truly devastated to lose but once again I give credit, he's a good fighter!
Thank you everyone and I'll be back from this setback xx
The forum has a fighter and gentleman we can be trully proud of. Well done mate.

yep, typical of the man. its why i get annoyed when we on the forum get accused of crawling up his arse for stating the obvious, as you did above keith good man, that Tony is a really good guy

If he came across as a complete arsehole, I'd tell him. He comes across well as do Larry, Jeff Thomas, Damon Reed, John Scully and lots of other guys on here.
If Chisora or Toney became a regular poster, it would be a different story.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 12:14
by IRLangmaid25
Bomber 1 wrote:I said I would come back on here and I'm here, I wanna say thank you to all of you, i appreciate it so much, it was a hard fight, I honestly feel I won 6 rounds but with him bring champion I think I needed 8, I respect him so much and he's a good fighter and a good guy, I gave it everything in there, I just switched off at times but that's down to his great speed too!
I'm truly devastated to lose but once again I give credit, he's a good fighter!
Thank you everyone and I'll be back from this setback xx
First fo all, well done Bomber we are all proud of you on here for your performance last night, it is a shame you did not get the result in front of your home fans up in Liverpool, who would you like to fight next?
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 12:36
by jessi
I choose bomber to win, i scored it a draw, great fight, great fighters and i think bomber hit the nail on the head when he said that he switched off every now and then ! hope you both fight 2 or 3 years down the line again

Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 01:35
by crusader
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Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 09:40
by rhino222
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 09:41
by NazNaci1
crusader wrote: 8)
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Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 10:03
by Captain Hook
Nothing between them, I had it a draw.
If Clev wants to mix it with the elite he has to use his jab and work off it, not get involved in a brawl and rely on a decent chin, hand speed and flurries.
Both deserve a lot of credit, especially Bomber. Outboxed Clev for periods early on and landed the BIG shots.
Clev landed more of them and that obviously caught the judges' attention.
He'll come again.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 16:22
by Dioufy
Captain H, when Clev used his jab with Bomber, he was getting beat. I was so impressed with Tony's gap-closing. Everytime they had a chess match, Clev jabbed, fell short, and was countered by a Bellew Jab. Perfect boxing. Clev took control again when he decided to use his work-rate and fast combos.
If Clev and Bomber boxed for 12 rounds, jab vrs jab, I feel Bomber would win 10-2.
No joke. Bomber is the better boxer. Clev won with work-rate and stamina.
And fair play to him. I love a good pressure fighter who throws lots of punches.
Re: Mr Bellew take a Bow !!!!
Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 19:13
by Bomber 1
Thanks for all the comments, it's simple for me
I WANNA DO IT AGAIN ASAP!!