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How many points did Louis get for unifying/Lonsdale? 14 seems a bit excessive.

Deadendgeneration wrote:How many points did Louis get for unifying/Lonsdale? 14 seems a bit excessive.

5 pts for winning the WBA Title. 5 pts for winning the Lonsdale Belt. 4 pts for defending the WBO Title.

We all know that winning a title is 5 pts and 4 pts for defending a wolrd title. And it's the same for everyone.

Standings updated through Week sixteen.


The top-ranked fighters for this week were:

Benny Leonard – 49 pts
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Joe Louis – 47 pts
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Sugar Ray Robinson – 42 pts
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Rocky Marciano - 39 pts
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Roberto Duran - 35 pts
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Crease wrote:Standings updated through Week sixteen.


The top-ranked fighters for this week were:

Joe Louis – 59 pts
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Benny Leonard – 49 pts
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Sugar Ray Robinson – 42 pts
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Rocky Marciano - 39 pts
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Roberto Duran - 35 pts
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Surely retaining belts because they are no on the line should not gain a fighter points. Louis got 12 points for losing a fight, Leonard himself picked up 4.

Deadendgeneration wrote:

Crease wrote:Standings updated through Week sixteen.


The top-ranked fighters for this week were:

Joe Louis – 59 pts
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Benny Leonard – 49 pts
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Sugar Ray Robinson – 42 pts
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Rocky Marciano - 39 pts
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Roberto Duran - 35 pts
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Surely retaining belts because they are no on the line should not gain a fighter points. Louis got 12 points for losing a fight, Leonard himself picked up 4.

Duran defended against his #1 contender then lost a unification for the biggest fight so far. He got 1 lousy point for the 2 weeks combined

JDC wrote:
Duran defended against his #1 contender then lost a unification for the biggest fight so far. He got 1 lousy point for the 2 weeks combined

Some of the scoring recently has to come under question.

Deadendgeneration wrote:Surely retaining belts because they are no on the line should not gain a fighter points. Louis got 12 points for losing a fight, Leonard himself picked up 4.

Agreed. That was an accidental mistake... I honestly don't know why I give Louis all those points, you don't get any points for a loss.

Crease wrote:

Deadendgeneration wrote:Surely retaining belts because they are no on the line should not gain a fighter points. Louis got 12 points for losing a fight, Leonard himself picked up 4.

Agreed. That was an accidental mistake... I honestly don't know why I give Louis all those points, you don't get any points for a loss.

OK that makes a lot more sense. Note, Leonard and Pep both lost, I know you gave Leonard points, can't remember about Pep.

Deadendgeneration wrote:OK that makes a lot more sense. Note, Leonard and Pep both lost, I know you gave Leonard points, can't remember about Pep.

Yeah thanks for the reminder. I didn't give Pep any points for Week 17 - but he did get 5 pts for Week 16 for winning the WBC Title.

What happened to Joe Louis's point total? Didn't he have the points previous to the loss to Fraizer?

sockdolager wrote:What happened to Joe Louis's point total? Didn't he have the points previous to the loss to Fraizer?

I give Louis 12 pts... When he didn't win his fight. I don't know why, but losses don't get you points.

Crease wrote:

sockdolager wrote:What happened to Joe Louis's point total? Didn't he have the points previous to the loss to Fraizer?

I give Louis 12 pts... When he didn't win his fight. I don't know why, but losses don't get you points.

I could've sworn he had the points previous to the Fraizer fight.

Standings updated through Week eighteen.


The top-ranked fighters for this week were:

Joe Louis – 56 pts
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Benny Leonard – 49 pts *
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Sugar Ray Robinson – 45 pts *
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Rocky Marciano - 41 pts
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Roberto Duran - 38 pts
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NOTE: Joe Louis recieved 9 pts for his unification victory over Benny Leonard.
Had the old points tally still been in place he would have recieved 13 pts.

Standings updated through Week nineteen.


The top-ranked fighters for this week were:

Joe Louis – 60 pts
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Benny Leonard – 50 pts *
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Sugar Ray Robinson – 46 pts *
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Rocky Marciano - 44 pts
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Roberto Duran - 41 pts
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Muhammad Ali - 40 pts
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And a few notes on this weeks point awardings:

Joe Louis recieved 4 points for retaining his titles against Larry Holmes (due to Larry's low ranking)

Willie Pep gained 3 pts for defeating Marvin Hagler - he didn't get 4 because Marvin wasn't in the WBC top 10.

Roberto Duran got 2 pts for defeating Max Schmeling... Max is an unmanaged fighter.

Standings updated through Week twenty.


The top-ranked fighters for this week were:

Joe Louis – 64 pts
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Benny Leonard – 53 pts *
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Sugar Ray Robinson – 49 pts *
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Rocky Marciano - 47 pts
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Muhammad Ali - 43 pts
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Standings updated through Week twenty one.


The top-ranked fighters for this week were:

Joe Louis – 64 pts
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Benny Leonard – 56 pts *
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Sugar Ray Robinson – 54 pts *
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Rocky Marciano - 47 pts
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Roberto Duran - 45 pts
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NOTE: Despite the result being changed to a "No Contest" ruling - I have decided to award Mike Tyson with 4 pts following his compehensive stoppage of the triple unified World Champion, Joe Louis.

He does deserve something with a victory like that - so the normal 3 pts for a win against a Managed fighter and an extra point because the guy is top of the rankings.

I believe Tyson is owed a couple more points.

'Buzz himself said: "Tyson and Louis receive the points that would be due as if the fight were an actual contest"

If the Louis - Tyson fight was an actual contest, then Tyson would have received bonus points for each of the titles he won.

kevo wrote:I believe Tyson is owed a couple more points.

'Buzz himself said: "Tyson and Louis receive the points that would be due as if the fight were an actual contest"

If the Louis - Tyson fight was an actual contest, then Tyson would have received bonus points for each of the titles he won.

I was n't aware that Buzz said that. And so, bearing that in mind, Tyson will recieve another 2 pts... But that's all. (1 for every Louis title)

I think 5 extra points would be fair.

kevo wrote:I think 5 extra points would be fair.

Tyson has already received 6 points for a "No Contest" against Joe Louis... That is more than enough.

No it isn't. I didn't make the mistake, so why should my fighter lose out?

I've been very co-operative throughout this whole episode. I could have been awkward and held things up for everyone, but I didn't. I don't think me asking for what i'm due is out of order.

Tyson deserves more points.

You won't be getting anymore off of me. I've gave Mike 6 points, you want more? Go ask Buzz.

Can I have some more points?

I would like an extra 3 points per fighter, per week, per delay, per loss, per win and per draw.

This may suffice, but may not. Who knows?

Crease wrote:You won't be getting anymore off of me. I've gave Mike 6 points, you want more? Go ask Buzz.

I think it's fair to say that you are the worst commish this game has ever seen.

Crease wrote:You won't be getting anymore off of me. I've gave Mike 6 points, you want more? Go ask Buzz.

Whoa, I'm not the point man.