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dempseyfire wrote: Wlad's straight right hand and check hook are true knockout punches, although I guess the likes of Mercer must not know anything when he ranked Wladimir as the second hardest hitter he ever faced below Lennox. And to suggest Jesse frikkin' Ferguson had a harder puncher is laughable.

First of all,Mercer said Tommy Morrison was the hardest hitter he ever faced,so you are very confused or you are lying.
Wladimir defeated a shot fat Mercer with 41 years old period.

Wlad has knocked out 50 opponents.

Koed who? Wlad's record is totally padded by the worst bums in history.

He doesn't get dramatic early KOs b/c of his cautious style, and vs the likes of Ibragimov and Haye he was content to win close rounds via the jab. That doesn't mean he can't punch. I've seen the guy fight live. I've talked to several sparring partners. The guy hits like a mack truck. To deny that is simply that .. living in denial.

Laughable is to say that he hits like a mad truck, he landed several right hands over and over again against glass chin Haye and what happened?What about Eddie tomato?Next you are gonna say that Eddie has a great chin.

He couldn't even ko in the early rounds Sam fatass Peter after tons and tons of punches and Mcline almost koed Peter.
What about Chris Byrd?Ike "who?" destroyed him in 5 rounds,but the mighty Klitsckos failed to ko him earlier,because they have huge power.

He was content to win close rounds via the jab?
He tried to koed them and he landed his mighty right hand several times and these 2 cruiserweights just took the punishment fine.
Where is that huge power that nobody sees,he is like Kelly Pavlik, a decent tall man in the worst era of overrated fat bums in boxing history.

Anyone who calls these fat contenders boxers is insulting boxing history.

I can see Williams who is much better than grandpa Thompson beating both Klitschkos and Cooney would destroy Wladimir like Sanders.

iron-chinned Chagaev

i really enjoyed that post cus and agree with all of it. You should post here more often. We have a few trolls like saadoffthedeck but otherwise its a coherent place (some of the time) D

Of the 1980s class, not only would Carl Williams give Wlad a tough time, I think Tyrell Biggs and....just to add something controversial here...even Mitch Green (on one of his rare sober nights) would present problems for Wlad!!

Cus D'Amato wrote:

dempseyfire wrote: Wlad's straight right hand and check hook are true knockout punches, although I guess the likes of Mercer must not know anything when he ranked Wladimir as the second hardest hitter he ever faced below Lennox. And to suggest Jesse frikkin' Ferguson had a harder puncher is laughable.

First of all,Mercer said Tommy Morrison was the hardest hitter he ever faced,so you are very confused or you are lying.
Wladimir defeated a shot fat Mercer with 41 years old period.

Wlad has knocked out 50 opponents.

Koed who? Wlad's record is totally padded by the worst bums in history.

He doesn't get dramatic early KOs b/c of his cautious style, and vs the likes of Ibragimov and Haye he was content to win close rounds via the jab. That doesn't mean he can't punch. I've seen the guy fight live. I've talked to several sparring partners. The guy hits like a mack truck. To deny that is simply that .. living in denial.

Laughable is to say that he hits like a mad truck, he landed several right hands over and over again against glass chin Haye and what happened?What about Eddie tomato?Next you are gonna say that Eddie has a great chin.

He couldn't even ko in the early rounds Sam fatass Peter after tons and tons of punches and Mcline almost koed Peter.
What about Chris Byrd?Ike "who?" destroyed him in 5 rounds,but the mighty Klitsckos failed to ko him earlier,because they have huge power.

He was content to win close rounds via the jab?
He tried to koed them and he landed his mighty right hand several times and these 2 cruiserweights just took the punishment fine.
Where is that huge power that nobody sees,he is like Kelly Pavlik, a decent tall man in the worst era of overrated fat bums in boxing history.

Anyone who calls these fat contenders boxers is insulting boxing history.

I can see Williams who is much better than grandpa Thompson beating both Klitschkos and Cooney would destroy Wladimir like Sanders.

iron-chinned Chagaev

This isn't even worth a response.

mugabi wrote:i really enjoyed that post cus and agree with all of it. You should post here more often. We have a few trolls like saadoffthedeck but otherwise its a coherent place (some of the time) D

Thank you!

Ray Mercer in the post-fight interview said only Lennox had hit him harder. It's not surprising that in another interview he said Morrison . . fighters routinely say the guys who him them the hardest are guys they beat.

http://thebiofile.com/2011/03/what-its- ... klitschko/
Phil Jackson, who's been in with everyone, said Wlad hit harder than Lewis.

Only here have I ever heard that Wlad was a 'light hitter' . . it's retarded. Even his detractors usually admit the man can frikkin' punch. He fights defensively so he doesn't get early KOs . . .that doesn't mean he can't punch. Styles makes frikkin' fights. To say a guy can't punch b/c he didn't take out Chris Byrd early is stupid.

Those here and on the CS know I HATE Klitschko . . have never liked him, and really hated him after his belly achin' after the Sanders and Brewster losses. But he's a very hard man to fight and beat, and to pretend like he'd go into 1985 and get beaten by the likes of Tyrell Biggs, Mitch Green, and Carl Williams is fantasy-thinking. He could lose to the upper crest of the era . . .want to argue he loses early to a quick, hard punching Coatzee or even Bonecrusher Smith? Gets worn down by Berbick? Face slashed up by Pinklon Thomas? Those are credible arguments, b/c those guys didn't have glass chins, had good power, and brought pressure.
Non-hitting Green who NEVER beat any good fighters . .EVER. Glass-jawed, mediorce punching WIlliams with porous defense? Light-hitting Biggs who had even worse defense? Sorry those guys are not beating Wladimir.

Just to clarify,i never said Wlad can't punch,simply, he is not a devastating puncher.
Ray Mercer said Morrison was the hardest hitter in 2008.

"You were always known for having a rock solid chin. Who hit you the hardest in your professional career?"

Ray Mercer: Tommy Morrison. Morrison hit me so hard to the body with those hooks that I was actually farting in the ring. (Laughs) You have to act like…you can’t let the guy see that you’re hurt, but I’m pretty sure he heard and smelled a couple of things. (Laughs) But he hit me harder than I was ever hit in boxing.

I just checked and Ray Mercer never said in the post-fight interview that Lennox had hit him harder than anyone else.
He said that he could take punches from anyone and in the HW division all the punches will hurt you if you can't see them.


Phil Jackson was a C-fighter and let me explain that punchers don't punch always at the same level,there are variations.
When Phil fought Wlad he was older,it is possible that at that point his punch resistance was smaller.

Saying that Williams cannot beat Wlad is like saying that DaVarryl Williamson could not beat Wlad and we all saw what happened.
DaVarryl Williamson decked Wlad and he lost a split decision,because, the doctor decided controversially to stop the fight.

After that Wlad refused to rematch Williamson.

Kenny Weldon a respected old school trainer said that Wlad is a normal puncher and he saw them all in person training hard including in the Olympics.

Cus D'Amato wrote:Just to clarify,i never said Wlad can't punch,simply, he is not a devastating puncher.
Ray Mercer said Morrison was the hardest hitter in 2008.

"You were always known for having a rock solid chin. Who hit you the hardest in your professional career?"

Ray Mercer: Tommy Morrison. Morrison hit me so hard to the body with those hooks that I was actually farting in the ring. (Laughs) You have to act like…you can’t let the guy see that you’re hurt, but I’m pretty sure he heard and smelled a couple of things. (Laughs) But he hit me harder than I was ever hit in boxing.

I just checked and Ray Mercer never said in the post-fight interview that Lennox had hit him harder than anyone else.
He said that he could take punches from anyone and in the HW division all the punches will hurt you if you can't see them.


Phil Jackson was a C-fighter and let me explain that punchers don't punch always at the same level,there are variations.
When Phil fought Wlad he was older,it is possible that at that point his punch resistance was smaller.

Saying that Williams cannot beat Wlad is like saying that DaVarryl Williamson could not beat Wlad and we all saw what happened.
DaVarryl Williamson decked Wlad and he lost a split decision,because, the doctor decided controversially to stop the fight.

After that Wlad refused to rematch Williamson.

Kenny Weldon a respected old school trainer said that Wlad is a normal puncher and he saw them all in person training hard including in the Olympics.

Well Ramon Hayes (a journeyman fighter who actually has taken their punches) fought many upper-tier HWs and has sparred with the Klitschkos many times, told me that Wlad was the hardest hitter he's ever been in the ring with besides George Foreman (who he also sparred with in the 90s). I've also seen Klitschko fight in person and the guy has true explosive power in his right hand . .I've seen a lot of HWs in person in my life and he's definitely up there with the heaviest hitters I've ever seen. Is he Earnie Shavers? No . . but he's a knockout puncher.

Are you really going to argue Williamson was beating Wlad at the time their fight was stopped? At best Williamson had won two rounds, and he let Wlad stun him in the round he knocked him down in to on many cards make that a 10-9 instead of a 10-8.
Stopped controversially? Klitschko's head was split wide open . . would Davaryll had won? Maybe, but probably not. Williamson could have gotten a rematch if he could've avoided getting knocked out by Ray Austin, who proceeded to get knocked out by Klitschko who didn't even throw a single right hand.

dempseyfire wrote:

Cus D'Amato wrote:Just to clarify,i never said Wlad can't punch,simply, he is not a devastating puncher.
Ray Mercer said Morrison was the hardest hitter in 2008.

"You were always known for having a rock solid chin. Who hit you the hardest in your professional career?"

Ray Mercer: Tommy Morrison. Morrison hit me so hard to the body with those hooks that I was actually farting in the ring. (Laughs) You have to act like…you can’t let the guy see that you’re hurt, but I’m pretty sure he heard and smelled a couple of things. (Laughs) But he hit me harder than I was ever hit in boxing.

I just checked and Ray Mercer never said in the post-fight interview that Lennox had hit him harder than anyone else.
He said that he could take punches from anyone and in the HW division all the punches will hurt you if you can't see them.


Phil Jackson was a C-fighter and let me explain that punchers don't punch always at the same level,there are variations.
When Phil fought Wlad he was older,it is possible that at that point his punch resistance was smaller.

Saying that Williams cannot beat Wlad is like saying that DaVarryl Williamson could not beat Wlad and we all saw what happened.
DaVarryl Williamson decked Wlad and he lost a split decision,because, the doctor decided controversially to stop the fight.

After that Wlad refused to rematch Williamson.

Kenny Weldon a respected old school trainer said that Wlad is a normal puncher and he saw them all in person training hard including in the Olympics.

Well Ramon Hayes (a journeyman fighter who actually has taken their punches) fought many upper-tier HWs and has sparred with the Klitschkos many times, told me that Wlad was the hardest hitter he's ever been in the ring with besides George Foreman (who he also sparred with in the 90s). I've also seen Klitschko fight in person and the guy has true explosive power in his right hand . .I've seen a lot of HWs in person in my life and he's definitely up there with the heaviest hitters I've ever seen. Is he Earnie Shavers? No . . but he's a knockout puncher.

Are you really going to argue Williamson was beating Wlad at the time their fight was stopped? At best Williamson had won two rounds, and he let Wlad stun him in the round he knocked him down in to on many cards make that a 10-9 instead of a 10-8.
Stopped controversially? Klitschko's head was split wide open . . would Davaryll had won? Maybe, but probably not. Williamson could have gotten a rematch if he could've avoided getting knocked out by Ray Austin, who proceeded to get knocked out by Klitschko who didn't even throw a single right hand.

People just have to pick who is more credible Ramon Hayes or Kenny Weldon or Hasim Rahman who said Wlad's power was nothing special.

Ramon Hayes is a class Z fighter with a glass chin.

Wlad needs to wear down his opponents to ko them unless you didn't see him connect over and over against Peter or Puritty,etc,etc, without nothing happening.
He is a puncher,but he is very far from a devastating puncher.

Doug Tucker had Williamson ahead and Wlad was down in the 4th(the fight had 5 rounds) i saw no easy fight for Wlad and even his trainer said that the fight was very hard and close after the fight.

Wiiliamson won two rounds in 5 that seems pretty even,but all the rounds were very competitive.
Wlad was having serious trouble with Williamson.

Your ability to score fights sometimes is affected by your emotions,after all,you saw Holyfield beating Lewis in the 2nd
fight,however,his own trainer said that he lost the fight(Kenny was in the corner).

Klitschko had a small cut in the forehead and the doctor said Wlad could get blind which is hilarious.

I don't know why,but you seem to get your data wrong all the time to help Wlad.
The truth is that after losing with Wlad ,Williamson defeated Mcall and Derrick Jefferson one year later,then he lost with Chris Byrd(2005).

He only lost with Austin in 2009 so i don't see how he lost the rematch.

I've also seen Klitschko fight in person and the guy has true explosive power in his right hand . .I've seen a lot of HWs in person in my life and he's definitely up there with the heaviest hitters I've ever seen.

Well,that's your opinion,personally, i've seen both Ks fight live as well and they never impressed me or Kenny Weldon.
Kenny said that certainly you didn't see many devastating punchers in your life to have that opinion.
He rates Bowe and Lewis power way above Wlad and he saw them since EVER.

By the way,who are you?Tell us your real name.

So what if Ramon has a glass jaw . . the point is I'll take the opinion of a guy who has actually taken their punches as opposed to a trainer. Journeyman like him are what enable the sport to survive. As for being class 'z' fighter, I guess the Klitschkos paid for his flights and lodging to work with them in Germany all those years b/c they wanted a walking punching bag . . .there's a lot more behind a lot of fighters than looking up their Boxrec record. Your amigo Kenny I'm sure understands that.
And while we're on the topic of trainers' opinions, Tommy Brooks, who worked with Wladimir and trained Tyson, said Klitschko hit harder.

Steward actually said in an interview with the Detroit press that HE thinks Lewis lost the Evander rematch, so I guess we're all even in. I don't have a problem with someone scoring that fight a close LEwis W but my scorecard of Evander winning by a pt was echoed by most reporters at ringside, including the UK press, so to accuse me of 'bias' while you apparently thought Williamson was giving Wlad hell in their pretty non-eventful fight, most of which Williamson was awkwardly shuffling around the ring afraid to throw punches and waiting for Wlad to collapse from exhaustion is pretty ridiculous.

You are going to bring up Purrity as an example? Who has KO'd Purrity? . . the guy can take flush shots from anyone and not go down. Why would it be fair to harp on him taking Wlad's punches.
Peter also showed a solid chin for most of his career and was KO'd by Wlad in the rematch and badly wobbled by him in the last round of their first encounter. If Wlad had any true killer instinct he could've definitely finished Peter in that last round but he doesn't.

Posters like Mugabi and Cus are the reason why not a lot of people venture over to these parts.

So what if Ramon has a glass jaw . . the point is I'll take the opinion of a guy who has actually taken their punches as opposed to a trainer.

I don't care what you choose to take.You are free to do what you want.
Rahman also fought with both(Lewis and Wlad) so i'll take a former champion over a Z fighter.

As for being class 'z' fighter, I guess the Klitschkos paid for his flights and lodging to work with them in Germany all those years b/c they wanted a walking punching bag

What did you expect from a guy paid by the Klitschkos?
You expected him to say that the Klitschkos suck?
You are right, a guy who got koed 19 times isn't a walking punching bag,he is a defensive wizard.

there's a lot more behind a lot of fighters than looking up their Boxrec record. Your amigo Kenny I'm sure understands that.

That's correct,but, certainly you are looking yourself in the mirror,because, as far as i'm concerned you are out of this game
instead Kenny knows more a lot boxing than all your buddies together.
Kenny was a pro fighter as well and he has fighters and other trainers to back him up.
I'm still waiting to see your curriculum vitae.Maybe K2 promotions.

And while we're on the topic of trainers' opinions, Tommy Brooks, who worked with Wladimir and trained Tyson, said Klitschko hit harder.

Tommy barely trained Tyson and what he said was:"He hits as hard or harder",so it seems he is not sure.
Plus,Tyson was shot and barely trained,actually, Tommy complained that Mike barely showed up to train and he did what he wanted.
Tommy even said that Wlad was faster than Tyson. Obviously he was talking about old Tyson,because, he also says that Tyson 88 could beat Wlad.

Steward actually said in an interview with the Detroit press that HE thinks Lewis lost the Evander rematch, so I guess we're all even in.

I would love to see that quote,because, so far you already provided three false statements.
It is a shame you forgot to bring the quote where Steward says that Tyson Fury hits harder than Wlad.
http://www.BS.com/fury-steward ... kos--41871
Meanwhile, you can read here Steward saying that Lennox clearly won the fight.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 09,5429669

I don't have a problem with someone scoring that fight a close LEwis W but my scorecard of Evander winning by a pt was echoed by most reporters at ringside, including the UK press

Maybe, it was UK press in the planet Mars,because, the real UK press had Lewis winning by two rounds including Sky News
and HBO.

so to accuse me of 'bias' while you apparently thought Williamson was giving Wlad hell in their pretty non-eventful fight, most of which Williamson was awkwardly shuffling around the ring afraid to throw punches and waiting for Wlad to collapse from exhaustion is pretty ridiculous.

This is hilarious,Wlad's trainer said that the fight was very competitive and he also said Williamson was fighting smart.
Wlad had his left side bruised from air punches.

Your the only one thinking it was a non-eventful fight where Williamson wins two of five rounds.
Your description of the fight is fictional considering the outcome was a split decision.
It is fiction to say that the cut was serious,if you call that serious i have to wonder what you will say about Lewis Vitali.
If the fight was so easy nobody understands why they stopped the fight and why Wlad refused a rematch and BTW the press indeed said that the stoppage was controversial.

You are going to bring up Purrity as an example? Who has KO'd Purrity? . . the guy can take flush shots from anyone and not go down. Why would it be fair to harp on him taking Wlad's punches.
Peter also showed a solid chin for most of his career and was KO'd by Wlad in the rematch and badly wobbled by him in the last round of their first encounter. If Wlad had any true killer instinct he could've definitely finished Peter in that last round but he doesn't.

Ross Puritty was koed in the first round by a bum.
But,that's not the point,the point is that your boy keeps landing his right hand several times and he rarely knocks them down until later,
The best examples happened against glass chin Haye, Ibragimov(both blown up cruiserweights) and many others.
Anyone with destructive power knocks down glass chins.
There is a difference between knocking down guys and finish them.
Wlad doesn't have too many one-punch KO's against credible opposition.
How many shots does he need to hit them to bring them down?
You are going to bring up Peter?
Mcline almost killed him in the first rounds,so,next you will say that Mcline has true killer instinct and more power than Wlad.

dempseyfire wrote:Ray Mercer in the post-fight interview said only Lennox had hit him harder. It's not surprising that in another interview he said Morrison . . fighters routinely say the guys who him them the hardest are guys they beat.

http://thebiofile.com/2011/03/what-its- ... klitschko/
Phil Jackson, who's been in with everyone, said Wlad hit harder than Lewis.

Only here have I ever heard that Wlad was a 'light hitter' . . it's retarded. Even his detractors usually admit the man can frikkin' punch. He fights defensively so he doesn't get early KOs . . .that doesn't mean he can't punch. Styles makes frikkin' fights. To say a guy can't punch b/c he didn't take out Chris Byrd early is stupid.

Those here and on the CS know I HATE Klitschko . . have never liked him, and really hated him after his belly achin' after the Sanders and Brewster losses. But he's a very hard man to fight and beat, and to pretend like he'd go into 1985 and get beaten by the likes of Tyrell Biggs, Mitch Green, and Carl Williams is fantasy-thinking. He could lose to the upper crest of the era . . .want to argue he loses early to a quick, hard punching Coatzee or even Bonecrusher Smith? Gets worn down by Berbick? Face slashed up by Pinklon Thomas? Those are credible arguments, b/c those guys didn't have glass chins, had good power, and brought pressure.
Non-hitting Green who NEVER beat any good fighters . .EVER. Glass-jawed, mediorce punching WIlliams with porous defense? Light-hitting Biggs who had even worse defense? Sorry those guys are not beating Wladimir.

I like your posts and frequently agree with you dempsey but imho I think Biggs and Williams had the skill and movement to potentialy dominate Wladimir on points over 12.

Early on Klitchko would play their game like he always does he would play it safe and try and box and wear his foe down that much we know.Wlad sure as hell isn't going to come out like Hagler-Hearns or like Ike ibeabuchi, how often has he at world level taken a risk early and gone on a seek and destroy mission?

No I think Wlad will try to box his way in against Williams and Biggs and at their peaks these men were the epitomy of fine HW boxing, and they had a movement that Wlad has never seen,one a Olympic SH champion the other a natural athlete par excellence. In short I think they would win the boxing game....and if they win that game I dont think Wlad will try his second game which is to move in hard....he only does that when the prey is weakened....and I dont think the prey will be weakened enough for him to risk it....it isnt in his nature.

I take Williams to win, and Biggs to do it or come mighty close unless he is cut again.

Mitch Green wouldnt win but he also knew how to handle a boxing style similar to Wlad better than any American HW out there today, a 4 time New York Golden Gloves champ, and unbeaten before Don King and his own wild living ruined him, I can see his fast hands, and boxing making life difficult for Wlad, and his toughness and chin meaning he goes the distance....but he was lazy and loses on points.

BigJuicyHog wrote:Posters like Mugabi and Cus are the reason why not a lot of people venture over to these parts.

and posters like you show why it's possible to rack up 15,000 posts without ever making a positive impact on a forum

Wow, Wladimir now hits harder than Tyson?

Time to get out the tape of Tyson/Botha.... then follow it up with Klitschko/Botha.

Enough said.

mugabi wrote:

BigJuicyHog wrote:Posters like Mugabi and Cus are the reason why not a lot of people venture over to these parts.

and posters like you show why it's possible to rack up 15,000 posts without ever making a positive impact on a forum

Wow great comeback. No wonder Saad owns you all night and day. You are not respected and everyone thinks you are an idiot. On every forum on this board.

mugabi wrote:

BigJuicyHog wrote:Posters like Mugabi and Cus are the reason why not a lot of people venture over to these parts.

and posters like you show why it's possible to rack up 15,000 posts without ever making a positive impact on a forum

LOL. You routinely make the very same accusation against me Hog makes here against you.

Can dish it out, but not take it? :)

BigJuicyHog wrote:

mugabi wrote:

BigJuicyHog wrote:Posters like Mugabi and Cus are the reason why not a lot of people venture over to these parts.

and posters like you show why it's possible to rack up 15,000 posts without ever making a positive impact on a forum

Wow great comeback. No wonder Saad owns you all night and day. You are not respected and everyone thinks you are an idiot. On every forum on this board.

No one said it was a great comeback retard who needs a great comeback with someone like you. Go and troll elsewhere or better still get a life.Instead of offering an opinion on what has been a fascinatig debate you got jealous because no one responds to your threads and you came on here to hurl ignorant insults. So you're the troll .Take your time understanding that concept.

The only thing your hero Saad owns is verbal diarrhoea. D

Silly pig brain not a good idea to align yourself with the biggest laughing stock on this forum and his boyfriend Aussie Urineiee!

mugabi wrote:

BigJuicyHog wrote:

mugabi wrote: and posters like you show why it's possible to rack up 15,000 posts without ever making a positive impact on a forum

Wow great comeback. No wonder Saad owns you all night and day. You are not respected and everyone thinks you are an idiot. On every forum on this board.

No one said it was a great comeback, retard. Who needs a great comeback with someone like you? Go and troll elsewhere, or better still get a life.Instead of offering an opinion on what has been a fascinatig debate, you got jealous because no one responds to your threads and you came on here to hurl ignorant insults. So you're the troll .Take your time understanding that concept.

The only thing your hero Saad owns is verbal diarrhea. D

Silly pig brain not a good idea to align yourself with the biggest laughing stock on this forum and his boyfriend Aussie Urineiee!

There, I fixed some of your abortion of a post.

Nobody on this forum is a bigger joke than you. People take you about as seriously as TML. You are a dirty troll, and it makes me wonder how you have stuck around for so long.

BigJuicyHog wrote:

mugabi wrote:

BigJuicyHog wrote: Wow great comeback. No wonder Saad owns you all night and day. You are not respected and everyone thinks you are an idiot. On every forum on this board.

No one said it was a great comeback, retard. Who needs a great comeback with someone like you? Go and troll elsewhere, or better still get a life.Instead of offering an opinion on what has been a fascinatig debate, you got jealous because no one responds to your threads and you came on here to hurl ignorant insults. So you're the troll .Take your time understanding that concept.

The only thing your hero Saad owns is verbal diarrhea. D

Silly pig brain not a good idea to align yourself with the biggest laughing stock on this forum and his boyfriend Aussie Urineiee!

There, I fixed some of your abortion of a post.

Nobody on this forum is a bigger joke than you. People take you about as seriously as TML. You are a dirty troll, and it makes me wonder how you have stuck around for so long.

Swine by name and swine by nature huh? and this brainless retard has the nerve to call others dirty! D So you've got a fetish about spelling like Urinieie.....hhmmmm are you another of his troll accounts...or if not...than what does that make you...he is urinie...so you must be shitty....?? Again there was a nice debate going on here and you came in only to troll and derail it through reasons of being the kingshit troll around here along with your two mentors, yet you're too stupid to see this fact which everyone else can see......

mugabi wrote:

BigJuicyHog wrote:

mugabi wrote: No one said it was a great comeback, retard. Who needs a great comeback with someone like you? Go and troll elsewhere, or better still get a life.Instead of offering an opinion on what has been a fascinatig debate, you got jealous because no one responds to your threads and you came on here to hurl ignorant insults. So you're the troll .Take your time understanding that concept.

The only thing your hero Saad owns is verbal diarrhea. D

Silly pig brain not a good idea to align yourself with the biggest laughing stock on this forum and his boyfriend Aussie Urineiee!

There, I fixed some of your abortion of a post.

Nobody on this forum is a bigger joke than you. People take you about as seriously as TML. You are a dirty troll, and it makes me wonder how you have stuck around for so long.

Swine by name and swine by nature huh? and this brainless retard has the nerve to call others dirty! D So you've got a fetish about spelling like Urinieie.....hhmmmm are you another of his troll accounts...or if not...than what does that make you...he is urinie...so you must be shitty....?? Again there was a nice debate going on here and you came in only to troll and derail it through reasons of being the kingshit troll around here along with your two mentors, yet you're too stupid to see this fact which everyone else can see......

Man you are stupid. What is urinie? I am very sad that your parents did not see it fit to abort you. I would have approved of a 60th trimester abortion for you.

Wlad is a massive puncher.
Vitali is not.
Mugabi is dung.
Put him on ignore BJH, it won't stop him trolling you but he never writes anything worth reading.

Maybe I should create a thread entitled "Good Opinions" and one entitled "Bad Opinions".

Then instruct everyone here to please and ALWAYS post in the thread that most accurately depicts your individual contributions at any given moment.


Things would be sorted and settled....lickity split I'm sure.

It wouldn't matter where I posted, Mugabi would come behind me wagging his tail while he dripped rabid bile all over his Cheetos stained tee shirt.

Well any fair minded reasonable person can read through this thread and see I stick to the thread debate. A nice debate was bubbling along before Hog, he of the 15,000 worthless posts started to troll, by offering a non thread related post, attacking myself and Cus ......apparently because he disagreed with our opinions on the thread subject. He did not at any point offer an opinion on the thread topic. Rather he came only to troll and drag Saads name into it.

In this instance Saad has a right to defend himself however ill advised his opinion may or may not be. He has a right to express it.