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I agree theres no need to rush Price and he seems to be brought along just right, just as Lennox was... he certainly shouldnt be put anywhere near the Klitchenkos for the next 18 months to 2 years imo. While I dont see either Skelton or Rogan being a real threat to Price at this point I think a fight against either of them would be good experience for Price. Skelton in his last fight was his lightest for years and looked in good shape and despite his age would he a good opponent for Price at this point, the sort of opponent who could still be dangerous if Price made mistakes.

keithmoonhangover wrote:Horse......

Price just sparked out the highest ranked available conteder for the British title. He needs to move forward, not backwards.

I need to ask you this. Did you see the Skelton vs Kubrat Pulev fight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GR4xUx7Of8

That was the last time he fought an unbeaten fighter and he got butchered.... and that was two years ago.

Matt is 45 now and wouldn't have a chance of beating Price.

He would have more chance than Sexton or McDermott though. Price shouldn't be fighting anyone who has a good chance of beating him at the moment anyway. Skelton would be a slight step up from his previous opponents and it will count towards him winning the Lonsdale belt outright.

Price might beat him easily like Pulev did, so there should be a good main support bout to make up for a possible one sided destruction in the main event, but it will still be a good name to have on his record.

It is all very good to say he would probably beat this and that fighter easily, but it is more impressive if he actually does it. As long as Price stays active, then going through the willing domestic contenders is not a waste of time, it will either help him learn or improve his reputation.

keithmoonhangover wrote:Regarding Sprott. He's lost three on the bounce. Do you really that he is going to provide a test for David Price?

Yes I do. Price will probably win, but Sprott will probably give him some rounds and if Price does stop him early then it will send a message to the world, as Sprott is a known quantity in Europe and he doesn't get stopped early.

Horse wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:Horse......

Price just sparked out the highest ranked available conteder for the British title. He needs to move forward, not backwards.

I need to ask you this. Did you see the Skelton vs Kubrat Pulev fight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GR4xUx7Of8

That was the last time he fought an unbeaten fighter and he got butchered.... and that was two years ago.

Matt is 45 now and wouldn't have a chance of beating Price.

He would have more chance than Sexton or McDermott though. Price shouldn't be fighting anyone who has a good chance of beating him at the moment anyway. Skelton would be a slight step up from his previous opponents and it will count towards him winning the Lonsdale belt outright.

Price might beat him easily like Pulev did, so there should be a good main support bout to make up for a possible one sided destruction in the main event, but it will still be a good name to have on his record.

It is all very good to say he would probably beat this and that fighter easily, but it is more impressive if he actually does it. As long as Price stays active, then going through the willing domestic contenders is not a waste of time, it will either help him learn or improve his reputation.

keithmoonhangover wrote:Regarding Sprott. He's lost three on the bounce. Do you really that he is going to provide a test for David Price?

Yes I do. Price will probably win, but Sprott will probably give him some rounds and if Price does stop him early then it will send a message to the world, as Sprott is a known quantity in Europe and he doesn't get stopped early.

'Probably' - have you been sniffin' glue again mate?

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Horse wrote:Yes I do. Price will probably win, but Sprott will probably give him some rounds and if Price does stop him early then it will send a message to the world, as Sprott is a known quantity in Europe and he doesn't get stopped early.

'Probably' - have you been sniffin' glue again mate?

What should I say, "definitely"?

I would like to dee price win the longsdale belt outright so another 2 britsh heaveys first Skelton isnta terrible shout if it can be made quick then towers and then obviously fury would be the one we all would like to see and the to take over the european scene hellinous would be good before going for the brothers. I think price would beat all the fighters iv menchoned

Horse wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Horse wrote:Yes I do. Price will probably win, but Sprott will probably give him some rounds and if Price does stop him early then it will send a message to the world, as Sprott is a known quantity in Europe and he doesn't get stopped early.

'Probably' - have you been sniffin' glue again mate?

What should I say, "definitely"?

I didn't say you should. Price beats Sprott 10 out of 10 times.

keithmoonhangover wrote:I didn't say you should. Price beats Sprott 10 out of 10 times.

It would be a step up for Price, so we don't really know if Price is likely to win 10 out of 10 against Sprott.

Horse wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:I didn't say you should. Price beats Sprott 10 out of 10 times.

It would be a step up for Price, so we don't really know if Price is likely to win 10 out of 10 against Sprott.

It's not a step up mate. Apart from Prizefighter, he hasn't beat a good fighter for 5 years. He's lost his last three, lost eight of the last fourteen and was dominated by Pulev. We don't know anything, but if you can't see this is a mismatch, you're in trouble.

keithmoonhangover wrote:It's not a step up mate. Apart from Prizefighter, he hasn't beat a good fighter for 5 years. He's lost his last three, lost eight of the last fourteen and was dominated by Pulev. We don't know anything, but if you can't see this is a mismatch, you're in trouble.

I think it is a step up.

Perhaps I shouldn't be treating my own opinion like it is the absolute truth, but I think Sprott is far more proven than Sexton or McDermott and he has had the far more impressive career than either of them.

Horse wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:It's not a step up mate. Apart from Prizefighter, he hasn't beat a good fighter for 5 years. He's lost his last three, lost eight of the last fourteen and was dominated by Pulev. We don't know anything, but if you can't see this is a mismatch, you're in trouble.

I think it is a step up.

Perhaps I shouldn't be treating my own opinion like it is the absolute truth, but I think Sprott is far more proven than Sexton or McDermott and he has had the far more impressive career than either of them.

I hear you on the career thing mate, but he's at the end of it. I'd just rather he took a leaf out of Fury's book and took a little risk.

keithmoonhangover wrote:I hear you on the career thing mate, but he's at the end of it. I'd just rather he took a leaf out of Fury's book and took a little risk.

I don't think he needs to copy Fury.

He should try to win the Lonsdale belt outright, because there are good learning fights for him at this level, including possibly fighting the loser of Haye vs Chisora.

He has many years ahead of him, risking a loss at this stage doesn't make sense. If he can beat his domestic opponents easily then he should do it. It isn't a waste of time for him to beat these established fighters easily, it is a display of dominance that will impress the British public and help to build hype.

In fairness to Frank Maloney, he has done a fantastic job bringing Price along, just like he did with Lewis and Georgi Kandelaki. Price does look impressive at the moment and I'm sure Frank will continue to bring him along at the right pace.

Who I would like him to fight and who I would match him against if I was guiding his career are two totally different things.

Sprott is on same level as Mcdermott, huge step back if this fight happens

What risk has fury taken recently? hes just fought Rogan while Price has just fought Sexton, who beat Rogan twice... so if anyone has taken the risks lately it is sexton rather than Fury. And remember it was fury who didnt want to fight Price rather than the other way round. Price was ready to take the risk and fight Fury...

fatcity69 wrote:What risk has fury taken recently? hes just fought Rogan while Price has just fought Sexton, who beat Rogan twice... so if anyone has taken the risks lately it is sexton rather than Fury. And remember it was fury who didnt want to fight Price rather than the other way round. Price was ready to take the risk and fight Fury...

Recently and his last fight are two different things. Just have a look at Fury's last six opponents.

Camcas wrote:Sprott is on same level as Mcdermott, huge step back if this fight happens

disagree sprott is a regular klitschko sparring partner and a veteran its a fight price may learn something from.

kingfinn wrote:

Camcas wrote:Sprott is on same level as Mcdermott, huge step back if this fight happens

disagree sprott is a regular klitschko sparring partner and a veteran its a fight price may learn something from.

He'd learn how to stand in a neutral corner for 10 seconds, I imagine, but I think he's got that sorted already.

Horse is a complete moron.

Price gains absolutely nothing if he fights a fat 45 year old man like Skelton. And why are people mentioning Audley? Do we really need to see him cowering in a corner looking terrified again?

There's no point wasting time trying to win the Lonsdale. Vacate now and move on to some real learning fights. There's plenty of good guys out there to give him some rounds.

I'm sure Maloney will do the right thing with him, he's steered him brilliantly so far.

dsimpson wrote:Horse is a complete moron.

Price gains absolutely nothing if he fights a fat 45 year old man like Skelton. And why are people mentioning Audley? Do we really need to see him cowering in a corner looking terrified again?

There's no point wasting time trying to win the Lonsdale. Vacate now and move on to some real learning fights. There's plenty of good guys out there to give him some rounds.

I'm sure Maloney will do the right thing with him, he's steered him brilliantly so far.

I am a moron? You don't think Price gains by beating his domestic rivals?

Before name calling why don't you interact with me? Why don't you display your superior intellect before condemning my mind?

Neither Harrison nor Skelton are improvements.

Harrison hasn't won in two years and he looked terrible in doing so, while Skelton is slower than ever and hasn't beaten a good opponent in three years. Their recent showings put them on par with McDermott and Sexton (as you said ‘a sideways step’) and suggest significantly faded abilities and difficulty capitalizing on remaining strengths. Sprott has recently shown that he can go rounds with good opposition, but rounds are all he could offer Price.

Several names mentioned as steps up are not too risky; they're simply better than washed up 40+ year old domestic fighters. Price would learn more, gain more attention, and climb the ranks more quickly--but not too quickly--by leaving the domestic scene and taking a step up. There is no need for a series of bouts featuring Price against old and overmatched fighters on par with some of the opponents that he's already crushed.

crusader wrote:Neither Harrison nor Skelton are improvements.

Harrison hasn't won in two years and he looked terrible in doing so, while Skelton is slower than ever and hasn't beaten a good opponent in three years. Their recent showings put them on par with McDermott and Sexton (as you said ‘a sideways step’) and suggest significantly faded abilities and difficulty capitalizing on remaining strengths. Sprott has recently shown that he can go rounds with good opposition, but rounds are all he could offer Price.

Several names mentioned as steps up are not too risky; they're simply better than washed up 40+ year old domestic fighters. Price would learn more, gain more attention, and climb the ranks more quickly--but not too quickly--by leaving the domestic scene and taking a step up. There is no need for a series of bouts featuring Price against old and overmatched fighters on par with some of the opponents that he's already crushed.

The names mentioned contain hard hitting world class contenders who could realistically knock Price out. Very poor matchmaking for a novice like Price.

The fights make no sense. So why waste time mentioning fights the likes of which have never been made in the history of boxing? It is stupid to talk about Price vs Mitchell, it won't happen.

I typed 'several of the names mentioned' and I noted in a previous post that it would be rushing to imminently match Price with a world class opponent. There are several gradations of ability between world class opposition and washed up domestic opposition though.

I already listed the reasons why Price should step up.

crusader wrote:I typed 'several of the names mentioned' and I noted in a previous post that it would be rushing to imminently match Price with a world class opponent. There are several gradations of ability between world class opposition and washed up domestic opposition though.

I already listed the reasons why Price should step up.

Skelton, Sprott and Harrison are steps up from Price's previous meager opposition.

People can try to hype him up as much as they want, but the reality is he has only faced low level opposition and he simply isn't ready for the bigtime.

If McDermottt and Sexton are meager opponents Skelton and Harrison currently are too. Sprott may give Price rounds, but there are better opponents for him to develop against.

I don't consider Price ready for the big time, but he's ready to move past the domestic old timers.

I don't even think Price will be able to get fights at domestic level even if he wanted to stay there for a while. Who can he defend his title against that would be meaningful? An 80 year old Skelton? A chinless, 60 year old never-was in Harrison? Sprott? Do people really want to see that? OK, it might be interesting for a few rounds (if Sprott even wants the fight) but Sprott would just get decapitated eventually.

The sort of guy he needs to face next needs to be euro-class like Sosnowski or someone, but the trouble is NOONE WILL WANT THE FIGHT. Can Maloney offer enough money to convince these guys on cash alone? But then where is their motivation? I said on the current scene that Price's best chance will be through some sort of eliminator, but I have no idea how the sanctioning bodies approach these any more.

Failing a competitive one he needs a teak-tough American trial horse who can give him rounds. Who fits the bill here? Who is today's Everett Martin? I don't even know.

Prepare for a long period of frustration as Price's career stalls due to noone wanting to face him.

By the way, Price crushes Fury, not even close.