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Casio wrote:

safeerah wrote:You will never have a decent boxer, you won't last 5 minutes in the industry, if you get to put a pro show in the first place, which I doubt, I don't know you and had never heard of you before, but judging by google you seem a bit unprofessional and a touch imature, boxing needs good promoters in all areas, but unfortunately it is not you, go back to the nickle and dime scams, your not ready for the big time yet. Notice how I don't mind taking on the numbers, I don't need to attach myself to the group to feel right, otherwise I could get people to flood this site and drive all you haters out, tail between your legs, the only one on here who has done damage to anyones career is you, now everyone knows we have another asshole trying to get in the industry. I was told from young don't get involved in other peoples disputes unless it is your own family, because you could end up carrying the can, I guess no one told you that.

Palimpsest wrote:http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=152488

lacollier883 wrote:

safeerah wrote:If you look at the early posts, when people thinks Nas might lose, either I say nothing or put up a decent argument as to why he can win, which is what you guys don't like, how can anyone disagree with you ? With the 150 deaths it means nothing to people like you, because you are heartless people, who think it is alright to mock the death of innocent people in jest, then try to turn it around as not meaning anything, just use it anyway and the rest of the people on here have not even commented that it is at the least in bad taste, it is like saying after the tube bombings, that they will be jobs available in the city or one of the local football teams will have less support on the saturday, uncalled for and heartless, you all comment how when someone argues with you it makes you hate someone close to them, how shallow. Do you really think a small number of racist, islamophobic, evil, internet bullies are going to derail Nasser's career ? Really ? Don't over estimate your importance in this industry, in reality you opinion means nothing, so go back in your school gang.

When have I even mentioned, never alone mocked 150 deaths. You know nothing about me so how you feel you can judge me is beyond me.

Please explain to me how I am

1. Racist
2. an Islamopobe
3. Evil

Also please clarify my role in the boxing industry

This will be an interesting reply, and please try to answer the questions instead of ranting. BTW, my parents asked me to type this to you

Mr Saf

Having read the 2 threads I am ashamed of my son, I do not agree that with you that he is racist or an Islamphobe though. I did think that I had brought my son up better than to mock the mentally retarded for which I can only apologise. I have thoroughly ticked him off and told him I will spank his tiny little bottom if he does it again.

Please accept my apologies and I hope you do not suffer from all this nasty abuse.

Mrs & Mrs C

safeerah wrote:

lacollier883 wrote:

safeerah wrote:If you look at the early posts, when people thinks Nas might lose, either I say nothing or put up a decent argument as to why he can win, which is what you guys don't like, how can anyone disagree with you ? With the 150 deaths it means nothing to people like you, because you are heartless people, who think it is alright to mock the death of innocent people in jest, then try to turn it around as not meaning anything, just use it anyway and the rest of the people on here have not even commented that it is at the least in bad taste, it is like saying after the tube bombings, that they will be jobs available in the city or one of the local football teams will have less support on the saturday, uncalled for and heartless, you all comment how when someone argues with you it makes you hate someone close to them, how shallow. Do you really think a small number of racist, islamophobic, evil, internet bullies are going to derail Nasser's career ? Really ? Don't over estimate your importance in this industry, in reality you opinion means nothing, so go back in your school gang.

When have I even mentioned, never alone mocked 150 deaths. You know nothing about me so how you feel you can judge me is beyond me.

Please explain to me how I am

1. Racist
2. an Islamopobe
3. Evil

Also please clarify my role in the boxing industry

This will be an interesting reply, and please try to answer the questions instead of ranting. BTW, my parents asked me to type this to you

Mr Saf

Having read the 2 threads I am ashamed of my son, I do not agree that with you that he is racist or an Islamphobe though. I did think that I had brought my son up better than to mock the mentally retarded for which I can only apologise. I have thoroughly ticked him off and told him I will spank his tiny little bottom if he does it again.

Please accept my apologies and I hope you do not suffer from all this nasty abuse.

Mrs & Mrs C

Have you not got parents then ?

Palimpsest wrote:Answer one question for me Safeerah. This thread (started by your good self no less) WAS ostensibly (look that up) about Darren Hamilton you allowed it to stay on topic for half a page THEN for no apparent reason whatsoever you launched the barb above at JamesH ..... WHY?

Counter-puncher wrote:but keep going. you'll be at the level of pre-Ice Age crustaceans soon, congrats.

MachoMan09 wrote:I believe the poster who doubted the possibility of putting on a big boxing show there simply meant that the current instability in that country would make such a show a logistical and security nightmare.

MachoMan09 wrote:

safeerah wrote:

MachoMan09 wrote:Saf, I've never insulted you, your lad or the people of Yemen, and I'm not going to start now. I do have two questions, though. One What's your motive? For instance, I read this forum because I like to keep up-to-speed with what's happening in boxing. I post on the forum to offer opinions on a sport I care about and sometimes just to kill time and have a laugh. That's it. I've no agenda above and beyond that.

Two Having answered number one, do you think that you are executing that motive effectively or could you do a little more, a little less or what have you?

The same reasons you come on here is the same reasons I come on here, plus I try to update true boxing fans on the any fights I am involved with. I have no motive apart from defending my son, a young unbeaten pro, from insults. I feel by bringing up the death of over a 150 people by a suicide bomber as reason to why will not get big support in Yemen is very heartless and the fact that no one on here has mentioned that in the least it is in bad taste to post something like that shows me a lot about the people involved in the debate, how people could have hatred towards a fighter because of someone else, signifies what sort of shallow individuals we are dealing with here. It goes back to ESB when someone put Nasser name up, when we had not been in the spotlight, some of the comments about me and Nas where bad and a lot racist, so people who know nas responded, then these people who attacked Nas and me went on his you tube videos with nasty and racist remarks, when I started posting on here about Nas, they have come on here as well, some are newbies funny enough, just posting about us, now the try to make out all the supporters of nas, on all the stes, are all me, even some that attack us, how strange. Both myself and nasser post a lot on facebook, where nas has a lot of fans, only once has someone attacked nas on there, he got driven off there and blocked everyone, on here it is different as a gang builds up and they with great pleasure attack the individual, internet bully boys, if they came on Nasser site on facebook they would be savaged, thats why people are more insulting on these forums and ESB is worse then this site. I have had a lot of support from people in the industry, who confirmed this is why they don't post on the forums, because of idiots like these who blindly attack people in the industry, because they feel it puts them on the same level. No machi man I don't enjoy this sort of debate, but I fight fire with fire and when you do that someone gets burn't, it won't be me. Peace !

Salaam.

I see where you're coming from, Saf, and I respect your staunch defence of yourself and your son. God first, then family - quite right. What I will say, though, is that I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick with regards to the earlier comments made about Yemen. Every act of terrorism in that country is sickening and my thoughts go out to those impacted by such atrocities. I'd like to think that all those who post on here would share my sentiments but I can only speak for myself.

I believe the poster who doubted the possibility of putting on a big boxing show there simply meant that the current instability in that country would make such a show a logistical and security nightmare. Perhaps he was right, perhaps he was wrong; I don't think, however, that he meant that because people were killed in a suicide attack, there wouldn't be enough living people in the country to fill a stadium. Again, that's just how I read his post, I can't speak for him.

The internet is awash with people who enjoy and argument and enjoy antagonising those who allow themselves to be tempted. Often the best approach is to ignore them. When you do that, they tend to drift away. Again, with respect, your replies do sometimes come across as being very hostile - that's not to say you aren't targeted with hostility yourself - and whilst your strength and loyalty are admirable qualities; perhaps a more guileful approach is more appropriate from time to time.

A great Muslim once said "A lion does not flinch or anger when the monkeys laugh at him from the trees".

safeerah wrote:

MachoMan09 wrote:

safeerah wrote: The same reasons you come on here is the same reasons I come on here, plus I try to update true boxing fans on the any fights I am involved with. I have no motive apart from defending my son, a young unbeaten pro, from insults. I feel by bringing up the death of over a 150 people by a suicide bomber as reason to why will not get big support in Yemen is very heartless and the fact that no one on here has mentioned that in the least it is in bad taste to post something like that shows me a lot about the people involved in the debate, how people could have hatred towards a fighter because of someone else, signifies what sort of shallow individuals we are dealing with here. It goes back to ESB when someone put Nasser name up, when we had not been in the spotlight, some of the comments about me and Nas where bad and a lot racist, so people who know nas responded, then these people who attacked Nas and me went on his you tube videos with nasty and racist remarks, when I started posting on here about Nas, they have come on here as well, some are newbies funny enough, just posting about us, now the try to make out all the supporters of nas, on all the stes, are all me, even some that attack us, how strange. Both myself and nasser post a lot on facebook, where nas has a lot of fans, only once has someone attacked nas on there, he got driven off there and blocked everyone, on here it is different as a gang builds up and they with great pleasure attack the individual, internet bully boys, if they came on Nasser site on facebook they would be savaged, thats why people are more insulting on these forums and ESB is worse then this site. I have had a lot of support from people in the industry, who confirmed this is why they don't post on the forums, because of idiots like these who blindly attack people in the industry, because they feel it puts them on the same level. No machi man I don't enjoy this sort of debate, but I fight fire with fire and when you do that someone gets burn't, it won't be me. Peace !

Salaam.

I see where you're coming from, Saf, and I respect your staunch defence of yourself and your son. God first, then family - quite right. What I will say, though, is that I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick with regards to the earlier comments made about Yemen. Every act of terrorism in that country is sickening and my thoughts go out to those impacted by such atrocities. I'd like to think that all those who post on here would share my sentiments but I can only speak for myself.

I believe the poster who doubted the possibility of putting on a big boxing show there simply meant that the current instability in that country would make such a show a logistical and security nightmare. Perhaps he was right, perhaps he was wrong; I don't think, however, that he meant that because people were killed in a suicide attack, there wouldn't be enough living people in the country to fill a stadium. Again, that's just how I read his post, I can't speak for him.

The internet is awash with people who enjoy and argument and enjoy antagonising those who allow themselves to be tempted. Often the best approach is to ignore them. When you do that, they tend to drift away. Again, with respect, your replies do sometimes come across as being very hostile - that's not to say you aren't targeted with hostility yourself - and whilst your strength and loyalty are admirable qualities; perhaps a more guileful approach is more appropriate from time to time.

A great Muslim once said "A lion does not flinch or anger when the monkeys laugh at him from the trees".

Salam, I take it you are a muslim ? A lot of what you said is correct, but like I said if after the tube bombings someone said there would not have the same support for the local team on saturday or they would be now jobs available in the city, the people of this country would be outraged, lets be honest the life of a brit is worth so much, but the life of someone from a poorer country is worth so little, if you are a muslim you should understand that, bearing in mind how many people have died in Iraq, Afghanistan and many more countries. By the way are you suggesting I am the Lion in this case and they are the Monkey's, that sounds reasonable to me, I think I will follow your advice and leave the monkey's to it, bye everyone.

Counter-puncher wrote:i'm not sure if the contributors to this thread realised what a 'race to the bottom' they have entered into, in terms of lowest common denominators.

JamesH wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:i'm not sure if the contributors to this thread realised what a 'race to the bottom' they have entered into, in terms of lowest common denominators.

Some of us have mate. It started as a genuine debate and ended up as something it’s a bit embarrassing to be part of to be honest. I try not to make a habit of such bickering, I can count the posters I've had arguments with on one hand, and I've always moved on in the past and usually found some common ground with them (in one issue or another).

In truth, I can't see that happening with Saf. I’m not going to go through why I think that, as it will understandably be seen as inflammatory. For the same reason, I won’t respond to the various points made in his recent posts.

I'm really surprised to see some intelligent people on here still trying to reason with him, but then it dawns on me that I was in the same boat myself a couple of weeks ago.

Enough said, time to move on.

JamesH wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:i'm not sure if the contributors to this thread realised what a 'race to the bottom' they have entered into, in terms of lowest common denominators.

Some of us have mate. It started as a genuine debate and ended up as something it’s a bit embarrassing to be part of to be honest. I try not to make a habit of such bickering, I can count the posters I've had arguments with on one hand, and I've always moved on in the past and usually found some common ground with them (in one issue or another).

In truth, I can't see that happening with Saf. I’m not going to go through why I think that, as it will understandably be seen as inflammatory. For the same reason, I won’t respond to the various points made in his recent posts.

I'm really surprised to see some intelligent people on here still trying to reason with him, but then it dawns on me that I was in the same boat myself a couple of weeks ago.

Enough said, time to move on.

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safeerah wrote:

Palimpsest wrote:

safeerah wrote:James H, AdamJ 1987, Palimpsest, Lucoller883, Camcas, Los2, J, Dodada, Bripez, Slapbangwallop are all sick, sad poor excuses for humans, they have took great pleasure in rubbishing a young kid, who has dedicated his self to boxing and who is now ill, awaiting new tests from the hospital that could well effect his boxing career, all I have done is defend him from the mob, believe me his brothers and cousins would love to meet you guys in the flesh, but you guys are cowards who hide behind a screen throwing insults, you pathetic bastards, I bet if your parents, or children could see what you do on here they would be ashamed of you all, I am glad that my family are honest, honourable people and not like the trash that reeks from your direction. I came on Boxrec forum for one reason only to update true boxing, fans, as I have on facebook many times, but hostility towards me and my son has been disgusting, I notice on facebook that is not the case, as you know who they are, on this forum they hide and ride as they do on ESB forum, these people take great pleasure out of insulting people far more sucessful then themselves, it gives them a sense of power, when in reality they are nothing, you are like vultures who gather around the target, but like cowards wating for others for support. You create names to hide behind, that you feel gives you a sense of identity, because in the real world you are all nothing. I don't wish to debate with such evil little children, so you can carry on with your pathetic life, if thats what you calll it.

3. Boredom: Every joke no matter how amusing ceases to amuse when heard too often, your responses are now pathetically predictable and no longer evoke amusement or concern just BOREDOM.

I will have your ID soon

J wrote:

safeerah wrote:

Palimpsest wrote:

3. Boredom: Every joke no matter how amusing ceases to amuse when heard too often, your responses are now pathetically predictable and no longer evoke amusement or concern just BOREDOM.

I will have your ID soon

how can this guy make veiled threats and stay on here? mods please?

jimcook wrote:all i can say is, thank eff ricky burns and nas harbi arent in the same weight division

jimcook wrote:all i can say is, thank eff ricky burns and nas harbi arent in the same weight division

safeerah wrote:

JamesH wrote:Fair play, was really pleased for him. He took his chance...

He was on with Bunce last night and even the Mrs went, 'ah, what a nice bloke'. Hamilton, obviously.

You have a Mrs ? ain't you under the age limit ? Maybe your Imagination.

The Insider wrote:

safeerah wrote:

JamesH wrote:Fair play, was really pleased for him. He took his chance...

He was on with Bunce last night and even the Mrs went, 'ah, what a nice bloke'. Hamilton, obviously.

You have a Mrs ? ain't you under the age limit ? Maybe your Imagination.

Im pretty sure this has already been asked but what was the basis for this unprovoked, unfriendly and hostile response Naji?