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Christ, will this program on Klitschko on HBO ever end? Almost an hour...yawn...

The sad thing about Haye is that he doesn't live up to his potential. He expressed zero interest in fighting Adamek or any up and comers. Chisora was the first time he actually stepped up and fought a young challenger. He got the Wlad fight but pissed it away much like he nearly pissed away the Valuev fight. Haye is about as uninspiring a title challenger can get, regardless of his talent.

Rover wrote:If Vitali "struggled" with Chisora, I'd like to see a close fight. Vitali comprehensively won.
Haye has no interest as an opponent for Vitali from me. He couldn't beat China-chinned Wlad, and the only chance he had there was a puncher's chance.
So now he'll beat Vitali, who has a better chin?
Let Haye fight Fury, who beat Chisora before Haye did.

Vitali struggled with Chisora more than anybody since Lewis. I watched the fight, so eff off. He couldn't get him out of there, and Chisora hit Vitali plenty. If Chisora had more of a dig then it would have been closer. Vitali has SMASHED everybody else, apart from Kevin Johnson. But Johnson did not want to fight at all. Chisora took it to Vitali. Haye's performance against Chisora earns him a shot.

I didn't say he'd beat Vitali. I think Vitali stops Haye, but I think it'll be a fun fight. Haye is not a super heavyweight and is too small, but he is NOT a bum. He is annoying and talks too much, but he can fight and will provide more of a challenge and MUCH more G's than pathetic opponents like Charr.

I've been campaigning for Haye Fury for a while now. I'm with you all the way, dude. You are preaching to the converted.

Blodhemn wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:Stop shit talking for pre fights if you've got no balls in the ring.

As boxing fans we should know better by now to get caught up in the pre fight sh!t talking. I take it all with a grain of salt these days as I know its largely a meaningless activity to get more people watching the fight more then anything they actually believe honestly, but some guys who sh!t talk well are funny as hell imho & I don't really care if their prefight talk matches up with their fight strat.

Miranda's hype talk isn't funny and if you promise big things and don't deliver, that hurts the sport to a degree. If you hype the fight and quit, well, I can't think of a worse outcome really. Hype without substance is for short term business and it blows.

I think you are in the minority of people who remember sh!t talk that isn't really memorable if this is the case. Idk wtf this specific guy said cuz idc, but even when I do care I don't REALLY care about sh!t talking except if its funny to me. This probably isn't much different from what wrestling does to get asses in seats. Everyone isn't a masterful sh!t talker, but you gotta say some simple I'm gonna KO this pos at least to attempt to sell it. Actually a better comparison maybe getting a out of your league drunk chick to f#ck you with bs stories at 2am at a club. She might be like wtf that dude is a liar, but next time she's drunk & its 2am & your talking theres a good chance your hitting it again.

clopixolacuphase wrote:

Rover wrote:If Vitali "struggled" with Chisora, I'd like to see a close fight. Vitali comprehensively won.
Haye has no interest as an opponent for Vitali from me. He couldn't beat China-chinned Wlad, and the only chance he had there was a puncher's chance.
So now he'll beat Vitali, who has a better chin?
Let Haye fight Fury, who beat Chisora before Haye did.

Vitali struggled with Chisora more than anybody since Lewis. I watched the fight, so eff off. He couldn't get him out of there, and Chisora hit Vitali plenty. If Chisora had more of a dig then it would have been closer. Vitali has SMASHED everybody else, apart from Kevin Johnson. But Johnson did not want to fight at all. Chisora took it to Vitali. Haye's performance against Chisora earns him a shot.

I didn't say he'd beat Vitali. I think Vitali stops Haye, but I think it'll be a fun fight. Haye is not a super heavyweight and is too small, but he is NOT a bum. He is annoying and talks too much, but he can fight and will provide more of a challenge and MUCH more G's than pathetic opponents like Charr.

I've been campaigning for Haye Fury for a while now. I'm with you all the way, dude. You are preaching to the converted.

Did you see the Sanders fight? That was more of a struggle for Vitali; he even got badly staggered. To me, Haye's performance against Chisora would earn him a fight with Fury, who actually did struggle with Chisora. Chisora has done better than any of Vitali's "second-career" opponents, but that consists of having won a couple of rounds.

Rover wrote:

clopixolacuphase wrote:

Rover wrote:If Vitali "struggled" with Chisora, I'd like to see a close fight. Vitali comprehensively won.
Haye has no interest as an opponent for Vitali from me. He couldn't beat China-chinned Wlad, and the only chance he had there was a puncher's chance.
So now he'll beat Vitali, who has a better chin?
Let Haye fight Fury, who beat Chisora before Haye did.

Vitali struggled with Chisora more than anybody since Lewis. I watched the fight, so eff off. He couldn't get him out of there, and Chisora hit Vitali plenty. If Chisora had more of a dig then it would have been closer. Vitali has SMASHED everybody else, apart from Kevin Johnson. But Johnson did not want to fight at all. Chisora took it to Vitali. Haye's performance against Chisora earns him a shot.

I didn't say he'd beat Vitali. I think Vitali stops Haye, but I think it'll be a fun fight. Haye is not a super heavyweight and is too small, but he is NOT a bum. He is annoying and talks too much, but he can fight and will provide more of a challenge and MUCH more G's than pathetic opponents like Charr.

I've been campaigning for Haye Fury for a while now. I'm with you all the way, dude. You are preaching to the converted.

Did you see the Sanders fight? That was more of a struggle for Vitali; he even got badly staggered. To me, Haye's performance against Chisora would earn him a fight with Fury, who actually did struggle with Chisora. Chisora has done better than any of Vitali's "second-career" opponents, but that consists of having won a couple of rounds.

Yeah dude, I've watched the Sanders fight and Sanders had Vitali in trouble, very briefly. Then he got KO'd. That's a different Vitali anyway. I'm a Haye fan I concede, so that makes me want to see the fight. I totally agree that Haye should fight Fury and I've posted on this in the past few days. I think he should fight Fury and THEN call out Vitali, should he win (which I think he will, by KO). Either Vitali retires, or he fights Haye. There is nobody else left worth bothering with. Haye brings so much more than anybody else. I could give a sh*t about seeing Vit fight anybody else in the top ten. I'm pretty much agreeing with you. But in terms of a super fight, Haye-Vitali is the closest we're going to get. Are you saying that Vitali should retire, because there is nobody else out there for him. That's why he's fighting guys like Charr in the first place.

He TKO'd Sanders 7 rounds later.:)
If that drug cheat retires, fine by me. Haye had his chance at a superfight v. Wlad. He flopped horribly. I'd rather see a fight with the Pulev-Ustinov winner. But there's no competitive fight out there for Vitali besides Wlad. Haye beat a fighter who'd lost three fights in short order (yes, I know the Helenius situation).

Couldn't give a toss about Pulev or Ustinov, and pretty much nobody else does either. Don't know anything about them. I follow boxing pretty obsessively, and neither means anything to me.

Haye-Vitali has been in the pipeline for years. If it happens I'll watch it. Same with Fury-Haye.

Otherwise, the best fights are from lightweight to LHW. The higher weight divisions suck and it's only marquee names fighting each other that get me interested, outsie of the British domestic scene which I follow with some interest.

But you hope and pray for your faceless Eastern Europeans to get their shots and I'll look forward to my UK 'characters' (Price, Fury, Haye and, to a lesser extent, Chisora)to get theirs.

We'll see how it goes.

I'm nodding out already. Don't think I'm gonna make it to Dawson Ward

Haye and Chisora have already had shots and lost decisively. At least Chisora made the fight somewhat fun to watch.

Rover wrote:Haye and Chisora have already had shots and lost decisively. At least Chisora made the fight somewhat fun to watch.

I agree OK? But Haye-Chisora was the best heavyweight fight in a long time. Anyway, my eyes are heavy. I'll try and catch Dawson-Ward somehow in the morning without finding out the result in the meantime.

Enjoy the rest of the nights fights, Rover. I'm out.

Rover wrote:Haye and Chisora have already had shots and lost decisively. At least Chisora made the fight somewhat fun to watch.

I agree that Haye-Fury would be a good fight, to determine the best HW in the U.K. But I don't think that's what will happen, because of money considerations. If Vitali sticks around, I wouldn't be surprised to see Haye-Vitali next.

Did Vitali mention what he is planning to do after the fight?

He's running for political office in Ukraine. The election's coming up. He's said he's retiring if he wins, I believe.

clopixolacuphase wrote:

Rover wrote:Haye and Chisora have already had shots and lost decisively. At least Chisora made the fight somewhat fun to watch.

I agree OK? But Haye-Chisora was the best heavyweight fight in a long time. Anyway, my eyes are heavy. I'll try and catch Dawson-Ward somehow in the morning without finding out the result in the meantime.

Enjoy the rest of the nights fights, Rover. I'm out.

Just me that preferred Huck v Povetkin?

Except the decision...:)

Rover wrote:He's running for political office in Ukraine. The election's coming up. He's said he's retiring if he wins, I believe.

I hope he wins. Not because I particularly dislike him, but it would clear some space in the division a bit. Either Haye, Wlad or Adamek would beat Povetkin, IMO, and he'd wind up looking like a pussy even more if he refused to fight any of them. Because there wouldn't be this consensus of "There can't be unity in the division anyway, two of the champs are brothers". People would expect a complete unification more than before, I think.

Bobbyptsd wrote:

Rover wrote:He's running for political office in Ukraine. The election's coming up. He's said he's retiring if he wins, I believe.

I hope he wins. Not because I particularly dislike him, but it would clear some space in the division a bit. Either Haye, Wlad or Adamek would beat Povetkin, IMO, and he'd wind up looking like a pussy even more if he refused to fight any of them. Because there wouldn't be this consensus of "There can't be unity in the division anyway, two of the champs are brothers". People would expect a complete unification more than before, I think.

Povetkin won't fight Wlad. I can't recall a more blatant case of ducking. I'd be more expectful of Huck to fight Wlad. Christ, I hope Rahman wins--not because I want to see Rahman-Wlad II, but because I detest Povetkin.

iamasadlittleboy wrote:

clopixolacuphase wrote:

Rover wrote:Haye and Chisora have already had shots and lost decisively. At least Chisora made the fight somewhat fun to watch.

I agree OK? But Haye-Chisora was the best heavyweight fight in a long time. Anyway, my eyes are heavy. I'll try and catch Dawson-Ward somehow in the morning without finding out the result in the meantime.

Enjoy the rest of the nights fights, Rover. I'm out.

Just me that preferred Huck v Povetkin?

Huck-Povetkin was by far the best high level HW fight in a while. I don't think that Haye-Chisora was remotely exciting; Del Boy just plodded around the ring doing little while Haye picked him off, and there few, if any, good exchanges or momentum shifts.

crusader wrote:

iamasadlittleboy wrote:
Just me that preferred Huck v Povetkin?

Huck-Povetkin was by far the best high level HW fight in a while. I don't think that Haye-Chisora was remotely exciting; Del Boy just plodded around the ring doing little while Haye picked him off.

Agreed on Huck/Povetkin. Too bad the wrong guy got the decision.

Rover wrote:

Bobbyptsd wrote:

Rover wrote:He's running for political office in Ukraine. The election's coming up. He's said he's retiring if he wins, I believe.

I hope he wins. Not because I particularly dislike him, but it would clear some space in the division a bit. Either Haye, Wlad or Adamek would beat Povetkin, IMO, and he'd wind up looking like a pussy even more if he refused to fight any of them. Because there wouldn't be this consensus of "There can't be unity in the division anyway, two of the champs are brothers". People would expect a complete unification more than before, I think.

Povetkin won't fight Wlad. I can't recall a more blatant case of ducking. I'd be more expectful of Huck to fight Wlad. Christ, I hope Rahman wins--not because I want to see Rahman-Wlad II, but because I detest Povetkin.

Yeah, but I don't think he'll fight Haye or Adamek either, and at that point, it'll become a little too obvious. And if he does fight either of those guys he'll lose IMO, which is a good thing.

Povetkin is 33 and has a belt, and you could make a strong case that Eddie Chambers is the biggest risk he took in his career. When you compare his record to some others around the same age who get flak for their opposition, it's just laughable.

HBO fucked up big time picking up this turd of a fight

licktheballs wrote:HBO fucked up big time picking up this turd of a fight

First Adamek should have been DQ'd, and now you're ragging on a fight that hasn't happened yet?

Not feeling well tonight?

licktheballs wrote:HBO fucked up big time picking up this turd of a fight

The Vitali fight?

Bobbyptsd wrote:

licktheballs wrote:HBO fucked up big time picking up this turd of a fight

First Adamek should have been DQ'd, and now you're ragging on a fight that hasn't happened yet?

Not feeling well tonight?

Vitali fight has been over for some time. HBO is broadcasting it on tape delay

licktheballs wrote:

Bobbyptsd wrote:

licktheballs wrote:HBO fucked up big time picking up this turd of a fight

First Adamek should have been DQ'd, and now you're ragging on a fight that hasn't happened yet?

Not feeling well tonight?

Vitali fight has been over for some time. HBO is broadcasting it on tape delay

Ah ok, my mistake.

Sonny Fiston wrote:This is the equivalent of Klit asking fans to purchase tickets to watch him hit a heavy bag.


This is more shameful than the Bradley-Pacquiao fight.

are you kidding me? Bradley was a very accomplished pro who faced many top fighters before Pac