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Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 20:07
by Wales
fizzjambo wrote:I don't really mind Matchroom giving their shows the big hype. It's their job to sell it as best they can and risk their prized assets as little as little as possible. Eddie certainly knows how to do all the extras of a modern show in terms of promotion and production.
What gets to me is how alot of supposedly knowledgeable people seem to carry anti-Frank pro-Eddie goggles around with them. There really ain't alot of differnce in the overall quality of shows they put on. I'm always really puzzled how an ordinary boxing fan can start supporting one promoter over another? Who cares less whose doing the show, what number of twitter followers they have or what bitchy coment they have made to each other? All we should judge them on is the quality of their shows, and there isn't really a fag paper between the pair there.
Kind of agree, but we went through a good few years (5?6?) where almost all of franks shows were home fighter v tba, and marquee fighter v X who drops out. I think thats where mr warren gets his bad rep from, years of practice. Im more forgiving to hearn as he hasnt, yet, given me years of dissapointment - some of franks shows, and specifically his wbu "world title challengers" were ten times worse that tonights offerings, kedebe anyone? Tonight, poor, altho 2 of the fights were IBF eliminators, the bantam fought a kid who came to win. Also he hasnt had all bad shows in his first year of single sky supplier. Brook jones, froch bute were great fights. Purdy jones upcoming, allegedly.... Warren, on allegedly, and just before, has upped his game, simply because he had to. We all got fed up.
My glass is half full tbh
To be fair to frank he was making so much coin off hatton fighting stiffs defending a bogus world title. And Whod blame him. If you were making, for example, half a million easy money would you risk it?
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 02:02
by dondada
Re Brook, I've said it before and I'll say it again - until he beats a really top fighter he will always have his critics. He looked really good though the Argie might not have been great.
Felt sorry for Zamora. What a tough man. Reid was actually winning against Anderson until his age betrayed him.
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 03:17
by Adamj1987
broomy7s wrote:I'm sure Cardle was born in blackpool and puts his accent down to his parents being scottish.
Poor show tonight, Brook was in with a decent puncher but that's all he was. Dunno how he was final eliminator. I am a fan of brook tho, really do think he has the skills to become world champ.
Sport on and grew up in lytham
Confused me first time i heard him speak i didnt know at that point his parents are scottish
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 03:48
by Finn
Horse wrote:Rubbish show, really bad.
after all the talk from Hearn slagging off FW the two main fights were as one sided as they come. The commentators were really annoying me - how does brook koing someone we have no idea of his level with a jab in 3 show his stamina issues are over and that he is world class. Dont get me wrong im a big brook fan but that fight proved nothing, however impressive the victory. Great fighters dont get sparked with jabs brook would have done the same before the carson fight.
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 04:24
by rhino222
gasman wrote:Good thread Ben. Overall verdict: that was a kack show.
Brook's opponent got KO'd with a jab, that is egg-on-yer-face main event matchmaking and the commentators raving about Brook like he is the next coming.
Still, comedy punditry from Gareth Davies said "that finish was a short right and it was amazing". Then a well timed counter from Mike Costello "I take issue with Gareth, that was a stiff left jab that finished it.

makes you wonder what these people do at ringside, if you are lucky enough to have a press credential then at least watch the fight!!........ or wash your hair!!........ both of these things he obviously failed to do!!
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 04:52
by ScottDetonator
Brook handled the pressure well but you'd have to say that Saldivia looked a step back from Matthew Hatton. No questions answered just quite simply, job done.
The question now is, will Kell have to fight another fight before getting a World Title shot? How many duds can Eddie flog us? Will the next bill be called, 'This Really, Really, Really(we promise) Is It'?
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 05:19
by dondada
ScottDetonator wrote:Brook handled the pressure well but you'd have to say that Saldivia looked a step back from Matthew Hatton. No questions answered just quite simply, job done.
The question now is, will Kell have to fight another fight before getting a World Title shot? How many duds can Eddie flog us? Will the next bill be called, 'This Really, Really, Really(we promise) Is It'?
If he does, I hope it's not by choice, i.e. because there's some political rubbish which makes it difficult. He's beaten a couple of supposedly fringe world class chaps and definitely needs to fight someone top six now.
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 06:11
by sweetscience
It's easy to get big fights if u stump up the cash
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 06:17
by dondada
sweetscience wrote:It's easy to get big fights if u stump up the cash

Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 06:54
by bobmee
"Reid was actually winning against Anderson..."
Not according to Dave Parris, he wasn't. Scores after 4 rounds: Howard Foster 39-37 Reid, Phil Edwards 39-38 Reid, Dave Parris 40-36 Anderson...
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 07:03
by TheCobra
Dave Parris.... oh dear.
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 07:21
by banjo
bobmee wrote:"Reid was actually winning against Anderson..."
Not according to Dave Parris, he wasn't. Scores after 4 rounds: Howard Foster 39-37 Reid, Phil Edwards 39-38 Reid, Dave Parris 40-36 Anderson...
That man needs firing, only a mental case would have Anderson not only winning but winning every round.
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 08:32
by gasman
bobmee wrote:"Reid was actually winning against Anderson..."
Not according to Dave Parris, he wasn't. Scores after 4 rounds: Howard Foster 39-37 Reid, Phil Edwards 39-38 Reid, Dave Parris 40-36 Anderson...
And the BBBoC have the cheek to belittle and interfere with other national boxing federations with pompous questioning of the standard of other federations referees etc. (see Fury-Rogan Irish Title sanctioned by the BBBoC farce and LBF). Nothing will be done about Parris inaptness yet again, which is why I couldnt give a toss if a rival British board set up shop here or started offering competition.
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 09:15
by dondada
bobmee wrote:"Reid was actually winning against Anderson..."
Not according to Dave Parris, he wasn't. Scores after 4 rounds: Howard Foster 39-37 Reid, Phil Edwards 39-38 Reid, Dave Parris 40-36 Anderson...
Blimey. Not good. Reid was quite clearly winning IMO.
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 22 Oct 2012, 04:01
by Counter-puncher
Glyn Leach wrote:MachoMan09 wrote:
Just like the Argie who's been lined up for Bellew, this guy has padded out his record at home fighting the same guys over and over. He knocked one guy out in two rounds and then fought him again in his very next fight and knocked him out in two rounds again. It's mental.
There's a production line down Falklands way, they got that unbeaten decorator, the Wild Bull of the Paintbrush, over for Purdy from Argentina too. And yet Sky will continue to make trite generalisations about Argentinean fighters which will be exactly the same as the ones they make about Mexicans, because they're all the same, those South Americans, aren't they. Every last one of them is exactly the same as the next one. Fact. I suppose it's all very good that these lads are 'proud warriors who never take a step back' etc etc, but if they can't last five minutes...
a mate texted me about the fight.
I said I knew nothing at all about the opponent, but 'he's Argentinian and they're usualy nails'.....

Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 12:34
by jonny
dondada wrote:bobmee wrote:"Reid was actually winning against Anderson..."
Not according to Dave Parris, he wasn't. Scores after 4 rounds: Howard Foster 39-37 Reid, Phil Edwards 39-38 Reid, Dave Parris 40-36 Anderson...
Blimey. Not good. Reid was quite clearly winning IMO.
That is strange scoring from Parris. not a round for Reid ?
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 13:43
by Glyn Leach
jonny wrote:dondada wrote:bobmee wrote:"Reid was actually winning against Anderson..."
Not according to Dave Parris, he wasn't. Scores after 4 rounds: Howard Foster 39-37 Reid, Phil Edwards 39-38 Reid, Dave Parris 40-36 Anderson...
Blimey. Not good. Reid was quite clearly winning IMO.
That is strange scoring from Parris. not a round for Reid ?
Good God! I'd hate to think what might have happened if it had gone the distance. And I'm going to shut up now because I WILL get myself sued.
Re: Will tonight's show be competitive?
Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 10:00
by iamasadlittleboy
Big Dave needs some glasses...