Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed

[dbf]

Will Mayweather fight like he did against Carlos Baldomir, a guy who was massive at Welter or will he fight like he did against Cotto at 154? I think we will more likely see a Baldomir type performance, which, although I'm probably in the minority, I actually enjoyed. The way he used the uppercut was a thing of beauty.

Alvarez is a lot better than Baldomir I know but he is only 22, he's far from the finished article.

People can't complain at Floyd asking for it at 152, Floyd is basically a Jr Welterweight who chooses to fight. He comes in lighter on fight night at welter than most 140 lber's do. Canelo is massive, almost to JCC Jr levels of rehydrating.

Great fight that might be a bit too soon for Alvarez.

[desperados]

Floyd is basically a Jr Welterweight

Mayweather got the boxing world brainwashed. He couldn't make 144 vs Marquez years ago yet people still pedal this bullshit - the guy walks around closer to 170 than he does 160 when not in training.

[dbf]

Floyd is basically a Jr Welterweight

Mayweather got the boxing world brainwashed. He couldn't make 144 vs Marquez years ago yet people still pedal this bullshit - the guy walks around closer to 170 than he does 160 when not in training.

Don't buy it. But I guess we are both working on opinons not facts and you're entitled to yours.

[Pug1]

Floyd is basically a Jr Welterweight

Mayweather got the boxing world brainwashed. He couldn't make 144 vs Marquez years ago yet people still pedal this bullshit - the guy walks around closer to 170 than he does 160 when not in training.

Earlier you said he walks around at over 160, now he is nearer 170lbs.
Show me anywhere where he states - or anyone stats - that he is nearer 170lbs apart from YOU!

You will be so upset the night of the fight. Say what you like, but there is no denying his skills.
ps, I believe he chose not to make weight for Marquez.

[Emmseegee]

Pointless argument to be talking about his walk around weight since nobody is gonna be proven right or wrong but I do believe that Mayweather could still comfortably fight at 140 if he wanted to.

I also reckon he has taken this fight at a catchweight limit so that WHEN he wins and the rumblings start about the catchweight then he can fight him again.

After Canelo who is there out there that would generate the same level of interest from the public? Yes there is Khan, Garcia, Alexander, Bradley. All fights id like to see but none would make as much money as the Canelo fight in my opinion and we all know that Mr Mayweather likes to get paid.

[Pug1]

Pointless argument to be talking about his walk around weight since nobody is gonna be proven right or wrong but I do believe that Mayweather could still comfortably fight at 140 if he wanted to.

Agree.

[desperados]

Show me anywhere where he states - or anyone stats - that he is nearer 170lbs apart from YOU!

how about, you don't know shit about the human body?

Check the photograph i posted earlier in the thread. Thats Floyd weighing 160lb, which is established fact.

What's his conditioning like? Well you can make out every muscle on his body, his ab's pretty ripped and visible.

Now go look at him on the scales vs Hatton for example. That is him 13lb lighter (almost a stone). He is considerbly more shredded. He's dried out alot of water and ripped his body fat down to 1 or 2%.

This is basic physics that anyone who has stepped foot in a gym understands. Given you & other Floyd fans lack of understanding and constant harping on about his walk around weight being in the 140's, i guess none of you idiots ever get off the couch.

If the Floyd pictured earlier in the thread, that is weighing 160, takes a couple weeks off from training/gym, and enjoys a few beers, maybe he eats some apple pie, the guy is 170lb easy as he softens up a little and puts on a little body fat.


To say he could make 140lb shows a complete lack of understanding of fighters weights. Not to worry though, most fans don't. The only way he's making 140lb is if he goes and does some more jail time, the lack of calories & confinement would eat away at some of his lean muscle, then he could get down. As he is right now, his body has been athleticly conditioned over a period of nearly 10 years to cram all that lean muscle and conditioning into the 147 weight limit.

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Mayweather walks around at 155 maximum. He is a small guy. He was like 147 2 weeks before the gerrero fight.

[keithmoonhangover]

Floyd is basically a Jr Welterweight

Mayweather got the boxing world brainwashed. He couldn't make 144 vs Marquez years ago yet people still pedal this bullshit - the guy walks around closer to 170 than he does 160 when not in training.

Show me a single photograph of Floyd walking around like a super middle weight. Just one photo or video.

[Pug1]

If the Floyd pictured earlier in the thread, that is weighing 160, takes a couple weeks off from training/gym, and enjoys a few beers, maybe he eats some apple pie, the guy is 170lb easy as he softens up a little and puts on a little body fat.

Apparently Floyd does not drink, but I guess you know better?.
Next you will tell me B-Hop is a crack head.

[Emmseegee]

Whatever his walk around weight is doesn't matter. His walk around weight isn't his fighting weight. Alvarez will significantly outweigh Mayweather in the ring as he has a completely different physique.

Even if Floyd does walk around at 160 or 170 (which I also doubt) then this wouldn't be an athletic weight for him so he ain't gonna be anywhere near that kinda weight on fight night.

If we all made up fights because of people's walk around weight then we could have matched up Hatton with Calzaghe and argued that they walk around at the same weight.

[desperados]

Mayweather walks around at 155 maximum. He is a small guy. He was like 147 2 weeks before the gerrero fight.

my god, you people no know bounds in your stupidity.

How many times do i need to explain it, look at the f*cking picture, he's a ripped (by normal healthy guy standards) and weighs 160. THATS FACT.

This isn't complicated to understand you retards, a guy who is ripped enough at 160lb, that you can see every muscle in their abdomen, puts on a little body fat from taking time off the gym and eating what they want in hat time off, puts on 10lb very quickly and easily.



i mean seriously, is it that fucking hard to to understand this simple logic in your tiny fornicatein brains?

[desperados]

Whatever his walk around weight is doesn't matter. His walk around weight isn't his fighting weight. Alvarez will significantly outweigh Mayweather in the ring as he has a completely different physique.

Even if Floyd does walk around at 160 or 170 (which I also doubt) then this wouldn't be an athletic weight for him so he ain't gonna be anywhere near that kinda weight on fight night.

If we all made up fights because of people's walk around weight then we could have matched up Hatton with Calzaghe and argued that they walk around at the same weight.

indeed but i'm not the one peddaling this bullshit that the man is walking around lighter than what he has weighed in at for fights - it's simply absurd, and these people call themselves boxing fans. Its like football fans not knowing the offside rule.

I mean, how hard is it to understand? You condition your body down to very low body fat %, and if your still out by a couple of pounds which most are, you sweat and piss it off. In the 30 hours you then have to fight, you hydrate and eat to get yourself into prime fighting condition, that probably includes getting a little of that body fat back on to keep you healthy, and you hydrate as much as you can. Probably gets some carbs and other energy foods down you.

Canelo will otuweigh Floyd, but that's not always a good thing, his body and stalky frame absorbs water up and he carries that weight around, it hurts his stamina. Virgil Hunter gave a good interview about it the other day, i think it was on boxing scene, might be worth a read for ya.

[Emmseegee]

Could someone enlighten me to what the actual argument is here now?

Why does anyone care what a fighters walk around weight is? (as long as its healthy)
Are you suggesting that he will enter the ring weighing 160 or 170?

I think everyone on here is quite aware of how fighters rehydrate and because people disagree with you doesnt mean that they dont understand.

[desperados]

Could someone enlighten me to what the actual argument is here now?

Why does anyone care what a fighters walk around weight is? (as long as its healthy)
Are you suggesting that he will enter the ring weighing 160 or 170?

I think everyone on here is quite aware of how fighters rehydrate and because people disagree with you doesnt mean that they dont understand.

take a read through this thread and a few others. 1 idiot actually wrote that Floyd just signed a contract where he will fight 3 pounds over his walk around weight. In other words, his walk around weight is 149 pounds. It's absurd, especially since i posted a picture of how toned the guy is weighing 160lb.

He doesn't step on the scales for this reason, he wants these clowns to actually believe he weighs that. Agaisnt Cotto & Guerrero he would have realistically been anything between 155 & 161. My best guess would probably be 158 for Cotto and 156 for Guerrero.

All i'm saying is drop the bullshit that he "walks around" at ten stone or he's a "natural" 140lb or 135lb... it's a joke.

[keithmoonhangover]

Could someone enlighten me to what the actual argument is here now?

Why does anyone care what a fighters walk around weight is? (as long as its healthy)
Are you suggesting that he will enter the ring weighing 160 or 170?

I think everyone on here is quite aware of how fighters rehydrate and because people disagree with you doesnt mean that they dont understand.

take a read through this thread and a few others. 1 idiot actually wrote that Floyd just signed a contract where he will fight 3 pounds over his walk around weight. In other words, his walk around weight is 149 pounds. It's absurd, especially since i posted a picture of how toned the guy is weighing 160lb.

He doesn't step on the scales for this reason, he wants these clowns to actually believe he weighs that. Agaisnt Cotto & Guerrero he would have realistically been anything between 155 & 161. My best guess would probably be 158 for Cotto and 156 for Guerrero.

All i'm saying is drop the bullshit that he "walks around" at ten stone or he's a "natural" 140lb or 135lb... it's a joke.

Do you have any proof about his weight in the photo?

[Pug1]

If we all made up fights because of people's walk around weight then we could have matched up Hatton with Calzaghe and argued that they walk around at the same weight.

[Emmseegee]

I was one of the people who thinks that he could make 140 but never suggested that it would be a natural weight for him. There arent many fighters competing at their natural weight but if there are any who are close to it then Mayweather is top of that list. You can tell at 147 that he is comfortable at the weight.

Not suggesting that he could take a fight at a weeks notice and weigh in at 147 but there wouldnt be many fighters as close to their fighting weight before starting a training camp as him in my opinion.

He was definitely heavier than normal for the cotto fight as he looked a bit fleshier but he now makes claims of having a poor training camp due to illness. True or Not, who knows

[desperados]

Do you have any proof about his weight in the photo?

i watched it. I don't usually watch WWE for the record, but as a boxing fan i tuned in because Floyd vs the Big Show sounded pretty humorous (and it was ).

you might be bale to find it on youtube, his weight was 160 on the scales, then big show went on afterwards - the weihg-in was obviously to give the shock value of the size difference of the 2 men (big show made him look like a little baby).


i'm not sure why so many Floyd fans simply refuse to believe it, it's just basic science. You see a guy hitting the scales absolutely ripped and shredded to body-builder standards after a 3-month training came and he weighs 147.... why is it so hard to believe that in Floyds retirement phases, his gym sessions are more infrequent and relaxed, he's obvioulsy not as ripped and weighs in at 160. He's in great shape even at 160 - i dare say he's in better shape at 160 than Marquez was at 142 when he fought floyd.

[keithmoonhangover]

Do you have any proof about his weight in the photo?

i watched it. I don't usually watch WWE for the record, but as a boxing fan i tuned in because Floyd vs the Big Show sounded pretty humorous (and it was ).

you might be bale to find it on youtube, his weight was 160 on the scales, then big show went on afterwards - the weihg-in was obviously to give the shock value of the size difference of the 2 men (big show made him look like a little baby).


i'm not sure why so many Floyd fans simply refuse to believe it, it's just basic science. You see a guy hitting the scales absolutely ripped and shredded to body-builder standards after a 3-month training came and he weighs 147.... why is it so hard to believe that in Floyds retirement phases, his gym sessions are more infrequent and relaxed, he's obvioulsy not as ripped and weighs in at 160. He's in great shape even at 160 - i dare say he's in better shape at 160 than Marquez was at 142 when he fought floyd.

So let me get this straight. You watched them weigh in on WWE and you believe they gave an accurate record? They lie about height and weight of wrestlers all the time.

Or can you look at someone on television and accurately weigh them?

[Pug1]

Do you have any proof about his weight in the photo?

i watched it. I don't usually watch WWE for the record, but as a boxing fan i tuned in because Floyd vs the Big Show sounded pretty humorous (and it was ).

you might be bale to find it on youtube, his weight was 160 on the scales, then big show went on afterwards - the weihg-in was obviously to give the shock value of the size difference of the 2 men (big show made him look like a little baby).


i'm not sure why so many Floyd fans simply refuse to believe it, it's just basic science. You see a guy hitting the scales absolutely ripped and shredded to body-builder standards after a 3-month training came and he weighs 147.... why is it so hard to believe that in Floyds retirement phases, his gym sessions are more infrequent and relaxed, he's obvioulsy not as ripped and weighs in at 160. He's in great shape even at 160 - i dare say he's in better shape at 160 than Marquez was at 142 when he fought floyd.

So let me get this straight. You watched them weigh in on WWE and you believe they gave an accurate record? They lie about height and weight of wrestlers all the time.

Or can you look at someone on television and accurately weigh them?

I was once told Hulk Hogan was 7ft!

[keithmoonhangover]

I was once told Hulk Hogan was 7ft!

Are you telling me he's not?

[Pug1]

I was once told Hulk Hogan was 7ft!

Are you telling me he's not?

Ok, he is 7ft ( really 6' 4)

[keithmoonhangover]

really 6' 4

I'm an inch taller than Hulk Hogan.

[sockdolager]

FFS, desperados, Floyd was weighed with all his clothes, boots and all for that stunt. Since he trains all year his walk around weight is in the low to mid 150s. He weighed 148 at his 1 month check before the Gurerro fight. any fighter that cuts tons of weight does it in the final week before the bout to ensure they can train at an optimal size as long as they can. Floyd is an average sized welterweight at best.