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Where do people think this fight will happen and on what channel?

pnejon wrote:If Haye lands a combination like the one that finished off Chisora, now way on earth Fury gets up from that.

I doubt many would. Fury is unlikely to be that low down for the left hook that started it though.

leforge wrote:Where do people think this fight will happen and on what channel?

Matchroom have HAYE and it will be PPV on SKY, I am sure of that.
It's a farce imo.

Pug1 wrote:It's a farce imo.

Jesus, the top two heavyweight in the UK, who are also both genuine top 10 heavyweights in the world are (hopefully) fighting each other.

How in the history of stupid arse posts, is it a farce?

mickey1975 wrote:

pnejon wrote:If Haye lands a combination like the one that finished off Chisora, now way on earth Fury gets up from that.

I doubt many would. Fury is unlikely to be that low down for the left hook that started it though.

How you see this fight going mick ?

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Pug1 wrote:It's a farce imo.

Jesus, the top two heavyweight in the UK, who are also both genuine top 10 heavyweights in the world are (hopefully) fighting each other.

How in the history of stupid arse posts, is it a farce?

The fact it is PPV is a farce!

Matchroom have HAYE and it will be PPV on SKY, I am sure of that.
It's a farce imo.

Read the whole thing next time.

leforge wrote:Where do people think this fight will happen and on what channel?

In a football stadium somewhere, as it's a huge fight. And if it's on Channel 5, I'll eat my hat. It'll be PPV. I can't think of a bigger British fight.

By the way, although the Haye fight sucked and he was beaten in most people's eyes by an old Holyfield, the underrating of Valuev is ridiculous. A lot of people picked Valuev in the Haye fight. Valuev was a very dangerous fighter, and although it's probably true to say he ducked the Klitschkos he was easily one of their most difficult available opponents at the time, if not THE most difficult other than Haye. I think a lot of you guys have forgotten the Valuev/Chagaev/Ibragimov/Peter era because it was so boring, but those guys held titles and, despite their tepid efforts against our top guys today (Haye and the Klitschkos) they were better fighters than they will ever be given credit for. Chagaev faded pretty quickly with illness and has never looked like much since beating Valuev, but he wasn't a bad fighter. Valuev would have beaten pretty much all of the Klitschko brother's recent opponents. He would have beaten Chisora. He would have beaten Tyson Fury. Chisora and Fury are much more entertaining, but the reality is Valuev was a very difficult fight for anybody in the heavyweight division. Most people who go on about how much Valuev sucked didn't watch any of his fights, except maybe the one with Haye, and the Holyfield one. I'm not a fan at all, but I watched him fight Ruiz on Channel 5 and he was nowhere near as bad as all of you make out. Valuev used his size very well. Haye was tiny in comparison and has nothing like the chin of Evander, so he fought the right way to get the win. Klitschko struggled to land on Haye while being very elusive himself. Fury is not elusive, nor does he carry the power of Wladamir. Sorry, but Fury is going to get knocked out. I'm buying a ticket and I will be as excited by the build up as everybody else, but Haye KO's Fury, EASY. Anybody who thinks otherwise is not applying logic, but just hoping for Fury to be our big hope. He is not. I like the kid, but either Klitschko annihilates him, and Haye will stop him.

Great fight though, will get a lot of coverage and newspaper space and everyone will be talking about it. A lot of money on the table here.

Pug1 wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Pug1 wrote:It's a farce imo.

Jesus, the top two heavyweight in the UK, who are also both genuine top 10 heavyweights in the world are (hopefully) fighting each other.

How in the history of stupid arse posts, is it a farce?

The fact it is PPV is a farce!

Matchroom have HAYE and it will be PPV on SKY, I am sure of that.
It's a farce imo.

Read the whole thing next time.

I read the whole thing, thank you.

Just make it clear the first time and we won't have this problem.

keithmoonhangover wrote: I read the whole thing, thank you.

Just make it clear the first time and we won't have this problem.

I am very clear, me thinks it is you who is not very clear.


The only PPV on SKY I am getting is you eating Dog Food. 3 want it!

No way! Haye easily wins if it happens.

Max Molyneux wrote:No way! Haye easily wins if it happens.

But are you paying?

Haye will obliterate him, Fury doesn't have enough power or technique to keep him honest. I think Haye will march right through him.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Haye will obliterate him, Fury doesn't have enough power or technique to keep him honest. I think Haye will march right through him.

I am not so sure, but agree HAYE is favouriite, but Fury is a big lump and can pressure HAYE and I think he can hurt Haye if he hits him....IF!

Pug1 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Haye will obliterate him, Fury doesn't have enough power or technique to keep him honest. I think Haye will march right through him.

I am not so sure, but agree HAYE is favouriite, but Fury is a big lump and can pressure HAYE and I think he can hurt Haye if he hits him....IF!

This is an accurate assessment.

leforge wrote:Where do people think this fight will happen and on what channel?

It's supposedly happening on Sky Box Office. That would make sense as Haye is signed to Sky, and Fury is tied to a channel that won't be able to put the finances up for it. Also rumour has it that it'll be in Manchester. Which is where Haye's last fight was scheduled before he got injured, and where Fury lives so again that would make sense.

If it is Box Office, there is absolutely no way I am paying for this. It's not a pay-per-view worthy fight. I purchased Froch vs Kessler because I felt that would be the biggest fight of the year. Two world class fighters going against each other doesn't happen often enough in boxing any more. I purchased Ricky Hatton's comeback on Prime Time too, as I was curious to see how he would perform and thought he was at least fighting somebody who might win.

Haye vs Fury will be entertaining in it's on way, but is in no way pay-per-view worthy. Fury just isn't in Haye's class, and no amount of pre-fight talk between the two is going to convince me otherwise. There are pubs locally to me that sometimes order boxing PPVs, and I'd rather watch this in the pub and spend more than £15 on beer than I would pay £15 for this.

ILikeBeer wrote:If it is Box Office, there is absolutely no way I am paying for this. It's not a pay-per-view worthy fight. I purchased Froch vs Kessler because I felt that would be the biggest fight of the year. Two world class fighters going against each other doesn't happen often enough in boxing any more. I purchased Ricky Hatton's comeback on Prime Time too, as I was curious to see how he would perform and thought he was at least fighting somebody who might win.

Haye vs Fury will be entertaining in it's on way, but is in no way pay-per-view worthy. Fury just isn't in Haye's class, and no amount of pre-fight talk between the two is going to convince me otherwise. There are pubs locally to me that sometimes order boxing PPVs, and I'd rather watch this in the pub and spend more than £15 on beer than I would pay £15 for this.

You like beer? Just a feeling I have but no real reasoning behind it.

ILikeBeer wrote:If it is Box Office, there is absolutely no way I am paying for this. It's not a pay-per-view worthy fight. I purchased Froch vs Kessler because I felt that would be the biggest fight of the year. Two world class fighters going against each other doesn't happen often enough in boxing any more. I purchased Ricky Hatton's comeback on Prime Time too, as I was curious to see how he would perform and thought he was at least fighting somebody who might win.

Haye vs Fury will be entertaining in it's on way, but is in no way pay-per-view worthy. Fury just isn't in Haye's class, and no amount of pre-fight talk between the two is going to convince me otherwise. There are pubs locally to me that sometimes order boxing PPVs, and I'd rather watch this in the pub and spend more than £15 on beer than I would pay £15 for this.

Sometimes is right. Boxing is just not as big as we want it to be. The pub will still have to pay it's fee (which is more than yours) to show it and this is how this promotion wlll make a lot of it's money. I wasn't out in London and out in my old home town when the Hatton fight was showing. I had this feeling Hatton was going to lose from the very beginning, so I was never interested in the fight and forgot it was on. I remember finding out from other people it was on that night and trying to find a pub showing it. I spoke to the landlord of one of the more popular pubs that shows sports and he told me it wasn't worth paying the fee to show the fight: that nobody was really all that bothered.

I guarantee they will pay the fee to show Haye-Fury. And I guarantee people will be bothered. Same as when I used to live in Finsbury Park. The world's End bought in Haye-Klitschko, and some of my mates who turned up late couldn't even get in through the door it was that rammed. This is PPV. But you're right in your assessment that it's not competitive.

This is like Haye-Audley, where loads of people got themselves ramped up that Audley had a chance. He did not. Tyson will not be frightened like Audley, but being frightened like Audley will mean he has more chance of surviving. If Fury somehow improved and worked on a gameplan then this could be an ugly fight: Haye does not go toe to toe with men over 6'4" and Fury's only hope is to keep Haye outside with a jab and Klitshko his way to victory. Nothing I have seen of him so far (and I have seen pretty much every Fury fight since he first fought McDermmott) suggests Fury has either the skills or the temperament to do this. Fury is going to have to dig in and make David Haye fight, and David Haye is not Kevin Johnson. He is going to punch Fury back VERY hard. I can't even remember Fury ever being in with a puncher. *checks Boxrec* yup. In Fury's last seven fights the only person he has fought with a KO percentage higher than 50% is Vinny fornicating Maddalone. There is a reason for this matchmaking. He can't hold a punch for sh*t boys. He's going to sleep.

ILikeBeer wrote:

leforge wrote:Where do people think this fight will happen and on what channel?

It's supposedly happening on Sky Box Office. That would make sense as Haye is signed to Sky, and Fury is tied to a channel that won't be able to put the finances up for it. Also rumour has it that it'll be in Manchester. Which is where Haye's last fight was scheduled before he got injured, and where Fury lives so again that would make sense.

Also Fury is not really tied to Channel 5. They have been very non committal about showing boxing and seem to have a fight by fight thing going with Fury now, so it'll be 100% on PPV.

I don't really care anyway as I will be at the actual fight. The atmosphere will be worth the ticket fee alone.

clopixolacuphase wrote:

ILikeBeer wrote:If it is Box Office, there is absolutely no way I am paying for this. It's not a pay-per-view worthy fight. I purchased Froch vs Kessler because I felt that would be the biggest fight of the year. Two world class fighters going against each other doesn't happen often enough in boxing any more. I purchased Ricky Hatton's comeback on Prime Time too, as I was curious to see how he would perform and thought he was at least fighting somebody who might win.

Haye vs Fury will be entertaining in it's on way, but is in no way pay-per-view worthy. Fury just isn't in Haye's class, and no amount of pre-fight talk between the two is going to convince me otherwise. There are pubs locally to me that sometimes order boxing PPVs, and I'd rather watch this in the pub and spend more than £15 on beer than I would pay £15 for this.

Sometimes is right. Boxing is just not as big as we want it to be. The pub will still have to pay it's fee (which is more than yours) to show it and this is how this promotion wlll make a lot of it's money. I wasn't out in London and out in my old home town when the Hatton fight was showing. I had this feeling Hatton was going to lose from the very beginning, so I was never interested in the fight and forgot it was on. I remember finding out from other people it was on that night and trying to find a pub showing it. I spoke to the landlord of one of the more popular pubs that shows sports and he told me it wasn't worth paying the fee to show the fight: that nobody was really all that bothered.

I guarantee they will pay the fee to show Haye-Fury. And I guarantee people will be bothered. Same as when I used to live in Finsbury Park. The world's End bought in Haye-Klitschko, and some of my mates who turned up late couldn't even get in through the door it was that rammed. This is PPV. But you're right in your assessment that it's not competitive.

This is like Haye-Audley, where loads of people got themselves ramped up that Audley had a chance. He did not. Tyson will not be frightened like Audley, but being frightened like Audley will mean he has more chance of surviving. If Fury somehow improved and worked on a gameplan then this could be an ugly fight: Haye does not go toe to toe with men over 6'4" and Fury's only hope is to keep Haye outside with a jab and Klitshko his way to victory. Nothing I have seen of him so far (and I have seen pretty much every Fury fight since he first fought McDermmott) suggests Fury has either the skills or the temperament to do this. Fury is going to have to dig in and make David Haye fight, and David Haye is not Kevin Johnson. He is going to punch Fury back VERY hard. I can't even remember Fury ever being in with a puncher. *checks Boxrec* yup. In Fury's last seven fights the only person he has fought with a KO percentage higher than 50% is Vinny effing Maddalone. There is a reason for this matchmaking. He can't hold a punch for sh*t boys. He's going to sleep.

Seems like a hell of a long post, just to say that you agree with me. It'll be on in the pub.

clopixolacuphase wrote:Also Fury is not really tied to Channel 5. They have been very non committal about showing boxing and seem to have a fight by fight thing going with Fury now, so it'll be 100% on PPV.

I don't really care anyway as I will be at the actual fight. The atmosphere will be worth the ticket fee alone.

Don't Tyson Fury fans have a reputation for liking a punch up after the fight?

Will certainly be interesting to see the reaction from some at the fight if Fury does get blasted out

No. Seen miles more problems from fans of countless other boxers. But hey, he's a gypsy, so crack on...

ILikeBeer wrote:

clopixolacuphase wrote:

ILikeBeer wrote:If it is Box Office, there is absolutely no way I am paying for this. It's not a pay-per-view worthy fight. I purchased Froch vs Kessler because I felt that would be the biggest fight of the year. Two world class fighters going against each other doesn't happen often enough in boxing any more. I purchased Ricky Hatton's comeback on Prime Time too, as I was curious to see how he would perform and thought he was at least fighting somebody who might win.

Haye vs Fury will be entertaining in it's on way, but is in no way pay-per-view worthy. Fury just isn't in Haye's class, and no amount of pre-fight talk between the two is going to convince me otherwise. There are pubs locally to me that sometimes order boxing PPVs, and I'd rather watch this in the pub and spend more than £15 on beer than I would pay £15 for this.

Sometimes is right. Boxing is just not as big as we want it to be. The pub will still have to pay it's fee (which is more than yours) to show it and this is how this promotion wlll make a lot of it's money. I wasn't out in London and out in my old home town when the Hatton fight was showing. I had this feeling Hatton was going to lose from the very beginning, so I was never interested in the fight and forgot it was on. I remember finding out from other people it was on that night and trying to find a pub showing it. I spoke to the landlord of one of the more popular pubs that shows sports and he told me it wasn't worth paying the fee to show the fight: that nobody was really all that bothered.

I guarantee they will pay the fee to show Haye-Fury. And I guarantee people will be bothered. Same as when I used to live in Finsbury Park. The world's End bought in Haye-Klitschko, and some of my mates who turned up late couldn't even get in through the door it was that rammed. This is PPV. But you're right in your assessment that it's not competitive.

This is like Haye-Audley, where loads of people got themselves ramped up that Audley had a chance. He did not. Tyson will not be frightened like Audley, but being frightened like Audley will mean he has more chance of surviving. If Fury somehow improved and worked on a gameplan then this could be an ugly fight: Haye does not go toe to toe with men over 6'4" and Fury's only hope is to keep Haye outside with a jab and Klitshko his way to victory. Nothing I have seen of him so far (and I have seen pretty much every Fury fight since he first fought McDermmott) suggests Fury has either the skills or the temperament to do this. Fury is going to have to dig in and make David Haye fight, and David Haye is not Kevin Johnson. He is going to punch Fury back VERY hard. I can't even remember Fury ever being in with a puncher. *checks Boxrec* yup. In Fury's last seven fights the only person he has fought with a KO percentage higher than 50% is Vinny effing Maddalone. There is a reason for this matchmaking. He can't hold a punch for sh*t boys. He's going to sleep.

Seems like a hell of a long post, just to say that you agree with me. It'll be on in the pub.

I like writing.

lillywhite14 wrote:Will certainly be interesting to see the reaction from some at the fight if Fury does get blasted out

Kind of what I thought. It'd take a braver man than me to be sat at a fight where Tyson Fury is a huge underdog.

I'd think twice about going to this fight if I could walk to the venue from my home.