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palooka wrote:

expe wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:
Would have still been a pretty easy fight 3 years ago, now its not even acceptable, sorry but it just isn't.

Twice British champion, admittedly a few years ago, with 1 proper defeat, who else could they have brought in?

Really? Barnes is not match fit for this sort of bout, may as well get James Hare.

He hasn't fought over 12 rounds for a while, but there aren't many opponents out there and he's boxed a couple of times this year and he's done the full 12 five times and been into the 12th in another fight. He's not a great opponent, but there were very few options about.

expe wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:

James Harte wrote:David Barnes

Would have still been a pretty easy fight 3 years ago, now its not even acceptable, sorry but it just isn't.

Twice British champion, admittedly a few years ago, with 1 proper defeat, who else could they have brought in?

Oh come on expe, 5 years ago now mate. And its not like he has come back strong. Its a very very poor fight, it won't even be a good watch.

What's wrong with Matt Hatton? Surely thats a better fight, is there a reason I have missed?

DMA1987 wrote:
What's wrong with Matt Hatton? Surely thats a better fight, is there a reason I have missed?

He was asked but replied that he wouldn't be ready.

JamesH wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:
What's wrong with Matt Hatton? Surely thats a better fight, is there a reason I have missed?

He was asked but replied that he wouldn't be ready.

Cheers James.

DMA1987 wrote:

expe wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:
Would have still been a pretty easy fight 3 years ago, now its not even acceptable, sorry but it just isn't.

Twice British champion, admittedly a few years ago, with 1 proper defeat, who else could they have brought in?

Oh come on expe, 5 years ago now mate. And its not like he has come back strong. Its a very very poor fight, it won't even be a good watch.

What's wrong with Matt Hatton? Surely thats a better fight, is there a reason I have missed?

Hatton turned it down, wasn't ready for September, Lynes wanted too much money, Purdy's taking time off to see if he can make the weight, he's already beaten Witter and Vassell and Theophane's on the Mayweather-Alvarez undercard. There aren't many options which is why it's Barnes. Of all the fighter's listed, I can't see any that Gavin would be particularly troubled by.

You're right there but he'd be troubled least by Barnes; he could have had a good European or hard International, no need for a title defense until someone is available who deserves a shot

There's quite a few promoters on this site (steffy bull, coldwell, slapbandwallop, olivia goodwin, damian hucker etc), who could have waited for the Senchenko announcement and then topped Wazza's bid by offering £110,000 for Brook to fight their boy, safe in the knowledge that it wouldn't be accepted. They could even extend the bid to Khan and Mayweather.

Brook was previously promoted by this man. Maybe he should have offered it then rather than his last fight against Philip Kotey on the Liverpool undercard. Brook is still the mandatory for Alexander. His purse for the postponed fight was in a different league to the offer. Everybody knows he won't accept a paycut - but it seems to have fooled some blinded by their Frankie manchild love.

palooka wrote:You're right there but he'd be troubled least by Barnes; he could have had a good European or hard International, no need for a title defense until someone is available who deserves a shot

Barnes is the quickest way to the Lonsdale belt though.

Pugilist-specialist wrote:There's quite a few promoters on this site (steffy bull, coldwell, slapbandwallop, olivia goodwin, damian hucker etc), who could have waited for the Senchenko announcement and then topped Wazza's bid by offering £110,000 for Brook to fight their boy, safe in the knowledge that it wouldn't be accepted. They could even extend the bid to Khan and Mayweather.

Brook was previously promoted by this man. Maybe he should have offered it then rather than his last fight against Philip Kotey on the Liverpool undercard. Brook is still the mandatory for Alexander. His purse for the postponed fight was in a different league to the offer. Everybody knows he won't accept a paycut - but it seems to have fooled some blinded by their Frankie manchild love.

It seems some people are actually stupid enough to think it was a serious offer more like. Brook isn't going to fight Alexander until March at the earliest and possibly not at all if Alexander is offered the Mayweather fight in May, providing they beat Alvarez and Khan respectively of course. Alexander-Khan isn't signed but I found this with several quotes from Khan.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... ds-newsxml

Usual shite - Garcia was lucky and won't agree to a 're-fight' He won't fight Alexander for less than 50-50, because he's the one who can pull a crowd. He also seems to think that he has a TV deal with showtime and Alexander doesn't. Thick fvck, it's Golden Boy's deal and I'm 99.9% certain Alexander's included in that, especially since he was going to fight Brook and then fought Purdy on showtime.

Pugilist-specialist wrote:There's quite a few promoters on this site (steffy bull, coldwell, slapbandwallop, olivia goodwin, damian hucker etc), who could have waited for the Senchenko announcement and then topped Wazza's bid by offering £110,000 for Brook to fight their boy, safe in the knowledge that it wouldn't be accepted. They could even extend the bid to Khan and Mayweather.

Brook was previously promoted by this man. Maybe he should have offered it then rather than his last fight against Philip Kotey on the Liverpool undercard. Brook is still the mandatory for Alexander. His purse for the postponed fight was in a different league to the offer. Everybody knows he won't accept a paycut - but it seems to have fooled some blinded by their Frankie manchild love.

Did he get over £100,000 to fight Jones again? If so I am seriously impressed by Eddie's faith in him. Especially when we ALL know he doesn't live the life(even you...).

winkveron wrote:David Barnes

...hopefully the 90k in change will be rolled over for the next opponent....

los2 wrote:

winkveron wrote:David Barnes

...hopefully the 90k in change will be rolled over for the next opponent....

Some people really are thick.

Pugilist-specialist wrote:There's quite a few promoters on this site (steffy bull, coldwell, slapbandwallop, olivia goodwin, damian hucker etc), who could have waited for the Senchenko announcement and then topped Wazza's bid by offering £110,000 for Brook to fight their boy, safe in the knowledge that it wouldn't be accepted. They could even extend the bid to Khan and Mayweather.

Brook was previously promoted by this man. Maybe he should have offered it then rather than his last fight against Philip Kotey on the Liverpool undercard. Brook is still the mandatory for Alexander. His purse for the postponed fight was in a different league to the offer. Everybody knows he won't accept a paycut - but it seems to have fooled some blinded by their Frankie manchild love.

Always nice to hear from you, the mere sight of your name brings a big smile to my face. Frankie still ducking Adnan, is he? And he did turn up for Witter after all, didn't he? Left with his belt too as I remember

Until next time sweet cheeks.

mickey1975 wrote:

Pugilist-specialist wrote:There's quite a few promoters on this site (steffy bull, coldwell, slapbandwallop, olivia goodwin, damian hucker etc), who could have waited for the Senchenko announcement and then topped Wazza's bid by offering £110,000 for Brook to fight their boy, safe in the knowledge that it wouldn't be accepted. They could even extend the bid to Khan and Mayweather.

Brook was previously promoted by this man. Maybe he should have offered it then rather than his last fight against Philip Kotey on the Liverpool undercard. Brook is still the mandatory for Alexander. His purse for the postponed fight was in a different league to the offer. Everybody knows he won't accept a paycut - but it seems to have fooled some blinded by their Frankie manchild love.

Did he get over £100,000 to fight Jones again? If so I am seriously impressed by Eddie's faith in him. Especially when we ALL know he doesn't live the life(even you...).

So what did he get to fight Jones again then mate?

JamesH wrote:

Pugilist-specialist wrote:There's quite a few promoters on this site (steffy bull, coldwell, slapbandwallop, olivia goodwin, damian hucker etc), who could have waited for the Senchenko announcement and then topped Wazza's bid by offering £110,000 for Brook to fight their boy, safe in the knowledge that it wouldn't be accepted. They could even extend the bid to Khan and Mayweather.

Brook was previously promoted by this man. Maybe he should have offered it then rather than his last fight against Philip Kotey on the Liverpool undercard. Brook is still the mandatory for Alexander. His purse for the postponed fight was in a different league to the offer. Everybody knows he won't accept a paycut - but it seems to have fooled some blinded by their Frankie manchild love.

Always nice to hear from you, the mere sight of your name brings a big smile to my face. Frankie still ducking Adnan, is he? And he did turn up for Witter after all, didn't he? Left with his belt too as I remember

Until next time sweet cheeks.

It's marvellous to hear from you James. Frankie's promoter did pull him out of the bidding for a fight with Adnan and he still hasn't boxed him

I have congratulated him on his win over old Junior even though he only grew in confidence when he realised the old guy was only using one hand

I actually thought that Yassine El Maachi did a much more convincing job on old Junior.

Toodlepip

mickey1975 wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:

Pugilist-specialist wrote:There's quite a few promoters on this site (steffy bull, coldwell, slapbandwallop, olivia goodwin, damian hucker etc), who could have waited for the Senchenko announcement and then topped Wazza's bid by offering £110,000 for Brook to fight their boy, safe in the knowledge that it wouldn't be accepted. They could even extend the bid to Khan and Mayweather.

Brook was previously promoted by this man. Maybe he should have offered it then rather than his last fight against Philip Kotey on the Liverpool undercard. Brook is still the mandatory for Alexander. His purse for the postponed fight was in a different league to the offer. Everybody knows he won't accept a paycut - but it seems to have fooled some blinded by their Frankie manchild love.

Did he get over £100,000 to fight Jones again? If so I am seriously impressed by Eddie's faith in him. Especially when we ALL know he doesn't live the life(even you...).

So what did he get to fight Jones again then mate?

I don't know. How much did he get mickey?

Pugilist-specialist wrote:

JamesH wrote:

Pugilist-specialist wrote:There's quite a few promoters on this site (steffy bull, coldwell, slapbandwallop, olivia goodwin, damian hucker etc), who could have waited for the Senchenko announcement and then topped Wazza's bid by offering £110,000 for Brook to fight their boy, safe in the knowledge that it wouldn't be accepted. They could even extend the bid to Khan and Mayweather.

Brook was previously promoted by this man. Maybe he should have offered it then rather than his last fight against Philip Kotey on the Liverpool undercard. Brook is still the mandatory for Alexander. His purse for the postponed fight was in a different league to the offer. Everybody knows he won't accept a paycut - but it seems to have fooled some blinded by their Frankie manchild love.

Always nice to hear from you, the mere sight of your name brings a big smile to my face. Frankie still ducking Adnan, is he? And he did turn up for Witter after all, didn't he? Left with his belt too as I remember

Until next time sweet cheeks.

It's marvellous to hear from you James. Frankie's promoter did pull him out of the bidding for a fight with Adnan and he still hasn't boxed him

I have congratulated him on his win over old Junior even though he only grew in confidence when he realised the old guy was only using one hand

I actually thought that Yassine El Maachi did a much more convincing job on old Junior.

Toodlepip

So he's avoiding Adnar And the hand again, sure it wasn't his toe?

Every time you've knocked Frankie, you've looked a tit, but still you persist. You are a gift that keeps on giving, cheers

Pugilist-specialist wrote:

JamesH wrote:

Pugilist-specialist wrote:There's quite a few promoters on this site (steffy bull, coldwell, slapbandwallop, olivia goodwin, damian hucker etc), who could have waited for the Senchenko announcement and then topped Wazza's bid by offering £110,000 for Brook to fight their boy, safe in the knowledge that it wouldn't be accepted. They could even extend the bid to Khan and Mayweather.

Brook was previously promoted by this man. Maybe he should have offered it then rather than his last fight against Philip Kotey on the Liverpool undercard. Brook is still the mandatory for Alexander. His purse for the postponed fight was in a different league to the offer. Everybody knows he won't accept a paycut - but it seems to have fooled some blinded by their Frankie manchild love.

Always nice to hear from you, the mere sight of your name brings a big smile to my face. Frankie still ducking Adnan, is he? And he did turn up for Witter after all, didn't he? Left with his belt too as I remember

Until next time sweet cheeks.

It's marvellous to hear from you James. Frankie's promoter did pull him out of the bidding for a fight with Adnan and he still hasn't boxed him

I have congratulated him on his win over old Junior even though he only grew in confidence when he realised the old guy was only using one hand

I actually thought that Yassine El Maachi did a much more convincing job on old Junior.

Toodlepip

What do the moderators on here do? Because they don't seem to ban WUMs, apart from Pigg Wilson, who had no subtlety at all and didn't even attempt to look like a genuine poster.

dreamtime wrote:According to Frankie's tweets his opponent for 21st September is announced tomorrow. We shall see.....

David Barnes

JamesH wrote:



So he's avoiding Adnar And the hand again, sure it wasn't his toe?

Every time you've knocked Frankie, you've looked a tit, but still you persist. You are a gift that keeps on giving, cheers

James, you're going over old ground and it's boring. I haven't said that he's avoiding Adnan. But if you want to pretend that his promoter didn't pull him out of purse bids for the English title fight with him fair enough. You can also imagine him not pulling out of Beijing and not pulling out of fights with Witter, Jason Cook and Frank Horta.

Frankie has turned himself around - why do you want to go over this old stuff.

Good luck to Frankie. He's talented but I just don't rate him as highly as some on here. He'll claim the Lonsdale belt next month and then celebrate his 28th birthday.

Lets hope five years after claiming the Lonsdale belt he is not having rematches with Journeymen on debutants undercards and that the Lonsdale is still the peak of his career. Its best Frankie had his crisis early on, though. Imagine if he had it after he got himself into the mandatory position and then had to make his pull outs then? Also, whilst Frankie was going through unimaginable things in his private life, wasn't Kell fighting in pub toilets? And how should I know how much he got for Jones 2? You said he isn't prepared to take a paycut so I presume you really think around 200,000. Maybe knock a 0 off, mate. I have a sneaky feeling you are a fanboy and not an insider as even the insiders are not happy with the way he lives(similar to how Frankie USED to).

mickey1975 wrote:Lets hope five years after claiming the Lonsdale belt he is not having rematches with Journeymen on debutants undercards and that the Lonsdale is still the peak of his career. Its best Frankie had his crisis early on, though. Imagine if he had it after he got himself into the mandatory position and then had to make his pull outs then? Also, whilst Frankie was going through unimaginable things in his private life, wasn't Kell fighting in pub toilets? And how should I know how much he got for Jones 2? You said he isn't prepared to take a paycut so I presume you really think around 200,000. Maybe knock a 0 off, mate. I have a sneaky feeling you are a fanboy and not an insider as even the insiders are not happy with the way he lives(similar to how Frankie USED to).

Personal abuse - how classy mickey.

Fabboy? Of who? I don't even think that Brook is the best in his gym.

Farewell mickey.

mickey1975 wrote:Lets hope five years after claiming the Lonsdale belt he is not having rematches with Journeymen on debutants undercards and that the Lonsdale is still the peak of his career. Its best Frankie had his crisis early on, though. Imagine if he had it after he got himself into the mandatory position and then had to make his pull outs then? Also, whilst Frankie was going through unimaginable things in his private life, wasn't Kell fighting in pub toilets? And how should I know how much he got for Jones 2? You said he isn't prepared to take a paycut so I presume you really think around 200,000. Maybe knock a 0 off, mate. I have a sneaky feeling you are a fanboy and not an insider as even the insiders are not happy with the way he lives(similar to how Frankie USED to).

Is pulling Brook down the only way you can defend Frankie?

Pugilist-specialist wrote: I don't even think that Brook is the best in his gym.

really? interesting, who do you rate as the best then

DMA1987 wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:Lets hope five years after claiming the Lonsdale belt he is not having rematches with Journeymen on debutants undercards and that the Lonsdale is still the peak of his career. Its best Frankie had his crisis early on, though. Imagine if he had it after he got himself into the mandatory position and then had to make his pull outs then? Also, whilst Frankie was going through unimaginable things in his private life, wasn't Kell fighting in pub toilets? And how should I know how much he got for Jones 2? You said he isn't prepared to take a paycut so I presume you really think around 200,000. Maybe knock a 0 off, mate. I have a sneaky feeling you are a fanboy and not an insider as even the insiders are not happy with the way he lives(similar to how Frankie USED to).

Is pulling Brook down the only way you can defend Frankie?

Don't need to defend Frankie, he is doing ok as he is. I think Brook's career has gone unbelievably stale over the past year or so. He still hasn't actually beaten anyone and the persistent rumours about his lifestyle, his withdrawals and inability to make weight must concern even his most ardent fans. I know they do his team. Brook won his Lonsdale in 2008 and appears no closer now to winning a genuine World title. Do you call that progress?