BoxRec

palooka wrote:Has Kovalev been knocked down? Vince Cleverly has mentioned something.

Darnell Boone put him down.

Cleverly 174.
Kovalev 173.

Clev looks in great condition for this one.

He does...and the Russian looks like a beast there, his right hand looks like it's shaping up to do some damage. Great to see a Russian over here as the bookies favourite for a change.

He's come to win alright but Nathan hasn't seemed all that flustered; it may be a fight of 2 halves and Cleverly has proven his fitness over and over.

G0mez wrote:Clev looks in great condition for this one.

He always does tho.

G0mez wrote:

columbo wrote: First off white never knocked out Sukhotsky, it was a UD over 12 and some people think White got a gift decision in that fight. Secondly White was also knocked out in a round by Donovan George who's hardly a world beater.

Typo on the KO, i meant a decision.

And Donovan George is a good fighter. You obviously don't watch these fights and form your own opinions on them.

If you did watch White vs George you'd know that the shot that hit him nearly put his head into the front row. I couldn't believe he got up from it.

Donovan George has about 20 odd KO's from 24/25 wins or so. He took everything Adonis had to offer until the last round.

I do watch the fights. Hence me knowing Sukhotsky wasnt knocked out! George is a fringe world class operator who has lost everytime he has stepped up! Francisco Sierra battered him over 7 rounds and Sierra is no top level operator himself.

palooka wrote:Has Kovalev been knocked down? Vince Cleverly has mentioned something.

He was put down in the amateurs a few times apparantly.

columbo wrote: I do watch the fights. Hence me knowing Sukhotsky wasnt knocked out! George is a fringe world class operator who has lost everytime he has stepped up! Francisco Sierra battered him over 7 rounds and Sierra is no top level operator himself.

Don't talk guff.

You said "some people thought White got a gift decision" and no way on earth did he. It was on Wealth TV and he nearly finished Suk in the 12th round. Suk's face was an absolute mess and I remember someone saying "Sukhotsky wont be able to leave the country because he wont look anything like his passport photo".

So if you watched it, you'd have not written that. Your just skimming boxrec records and joining the dots.

120-108, 119-109 and 118-110 were the scores.

Then he has chinks in his armour; a HBO fighter does get the big build up; I've watched some of the things where the fighters knock out reels are shown over again and fallen for it. They may have underestimated Nathan who is tough and wants to win.

G0mez wrote:

columbo wrote: I do watch the fights. Hence me knowing Sukhotsky wasnt knocked out! George is a fringe world class operator who has lost everytime he has stepped up! Francisco Sierra battered him over 7 rounds and Sierra is no top level operator himself.

Don't talk guff.

You said "some people thought White got a gift decision" and no way on earth did he. It was on Wealth TV and he nearly finished Suk in the 12th round. Suk's face was an absolute mess and I remember someone saying "Sukhotsky wont be able to leave the country because he wont look anything like his passport photo".

So if you watched it, you'd have not written that. Your just skimming boxrec records and joining the dots.

120-108, 119-109 and 118-110 were the scores.

Just because it was on wealth tv doesnt mean i couldnt of watched the fight ..... you're the one saying "you clearly dont watch the fights to make up your own opinion" then saying Sukhotsky was knocked out and then when I pulled you up on it claiming it was a typo!

GOmez knows what's what as well columbo; it's easy to make mistakes, EVEN I've done it! Kovalev looks heavy handed and a little like Kessler with the strong right to the body; h'll be turned and roughed up by Nathan though and I'm happy I put my money on the Welsh man.

columbo wrote:

G0mez wrote:

columbo wrote: I do watch the fights. Hence me knowing Sukhotsky wasnt knocked out! George is a fringe world class operator who has lost everytime he has stepped up! Francisco Sierra battered him over 7 rounds and Sierra is no top level operator himself.

Don't talk guff.

You said "some people thought White got a gift decision" and no way on earth did he. It was on Wealth TV and he nearly finished Suk in the 12th round. Suk's face was an absolute mess and I remember someone saying "Sukhotsky wont be able to leave the country because he wont look anything like his passport photo".

So if you watched it, you'd have not written that. Your just skimming boxrec records and joining the dots.

120-108, 119-109 and 118-110 were the scores.

Just because it was on wealth tv doesnt mean i couldnt of watched the fight ..... you're the one saying "you clearly dont watch the fights to make up your own opinion" then saying Sukhotsky was knocked out and then when I pulled you up on it claiming it was a typo!

Who suggested the fight was a robbery? Did you see it and think that it was a robbery?

This is a tough fight to predict for me. One thing I notice is that most predictions focus almost exclusively on the shortcomings or strengths of one fighter or their record, or both, without significantly addressing those of the other fighter or their record. Maybe this is why there are many predictions on both ends of a one-sided fight.

I think it will be quite competitive and I won't be surprised by a win for either fighter. If one of them dominates, I will be very impressed.

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columbo wrote:

G0mez wrote:

columbo wrote: I do watch the fights. Hence me knowing Sukhotsky wasnt knocked out! George is a fringe world class operator who has lost everytime he has stepped up! Francisco Sierra battered him over 7 rounds and Sierra is no top level operator himself.

Don't talk guff.

You said "some people thought White got a gift decision" and no way on earth did he. It was on Wealth TV and he nearly finished Suk in the 12th round. Suk's face was an absolute mess and I remember someone saying "Sukhotsky wont be able to leave the country because he wont look anything like his passport photo".

So if you watched it, you'd have not written that. Your just skimming boxrec records and joining the dots.

120-108, 119-109 and 118-110 were the scores.

Just because it was on wealth tv doesnt mean i couldnt of watched the fight ..... you're the one saying "you clearly dont watch the fights to make up your own opinion" then saying Sukhotsky was knocked out and then when I pulled you up on it claiming it was a typo!

Who suggested the fight was a robbery? Did you see it and think that it was a robbery?

This is a tough fight to predict for me. One thing I notice is that most predictions focus almost exclusively on the shortcomings of one fighter or their record, or both, without significantly addressing those of the other fighter or their record. Maybe this is why there are many predictions on both ends of a one-sided fight.

I think it will be quite competitive and I won't be surprised by a win for either fighter. If one of them dominates, I will be very impressed.[/quote]

Na id heard other people talking about it thinking maybe it was! In all honesty I wasnt watching it that closely at the time to really notice either way! Anyway im just not fully sold on Kovalev yet that's all. He can clearly punch but some of his wins have made him look better than he is I think.

mickey1975 wrote:Necks on the line lads. Me? Clev to win wide on points, big overhand rights pinging off Kovalev's head all night.

I originally chose Kovalev, but now I think think Clev will survive some difficult moments, take over in the later rounds with Kovalev fading, and win a decision in a highly competitive fight.

G0mez wrote:Clev looks in great condition for this one.

Yeah he does, they both look confident. Exciting fight.