BoxRec

Aden wrote:

Gaz_73 wrote:One of the biggest issues I can see with following a UFC model, is that UFC is built on a PPV model and arguably, the transition to paid TV is one of the biggest reasons for boxing's decline. People like Eubank went from fighting on Terrestrial TV in front of 15 million, to fighting on Sky in front of a tenth of the audience (albeit for more money, probably). UFC is big and popular, but MMA isn't, in the grand scheme of things, hence the average person in the street doesn't know what MMA is, but is aware of "cage fighting".

All TV is paid TV. It's just some of it is voluntary and you get what you pay for, and some of it is mandatory and you get what you're given, like it or not. If the TV licence was scrapped and TV production companies had to live and die by the quality of their product, rather than being funded by a tax, you'd get quality boxing at the right price. Don't blame Sky, blame the government and the BBC.

stevieb_8006 wrote:also, I think we go overboard with this whole "the best don't fight each other" thing cos domestically we are in a pickle

the klits have fought every1

floyds just fought canelo

we had the super 6

the little guys face each other like donaire

domestically our top two heavys are facing off

theres a lot to celebrate but boxing fans love to moan

Aden wrote:Boxing's biggest starts Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko are all coming to the end of their long and distinguished careers. So forget about them for a moment and think two-three years down the line.

I'm starting to think that I'd like to see the UFC open a boxing arm and set themselves up as the top dogs of global boxing, the place where most, if not all, boxers set their sights on getting a contract. If not the UFC a company that looks, acts, and works like the UFC.

What are your thoughts on this (please don't go off on one about wrestling being gay etc... we've heard it all before), in terms of the way they operate, the way they promote, the way they will cut fighters who aren't exciting, the way their weight divisions are structured, etc..?

mugabi wrote:

Aden wrote:Boxing's biggest starts Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko are all coming to the end of their long and distinguished careers. So forget about them for a moment and think two-three years down the line.

I'm starting to think that I'd like to see the UFC open a boxing arm and set themselves up as the top dogs of global boxing, the place where most, if not all, boxers set their sights on getting a contract. If not the UFC a company that looks, acts, and works like the UFC.

What are your thoughts on this (please don't go off on one about wrestling being gay etc... we've heard it all before), in terms of the way they operate, the way they promote, the way they will cut fighters who aren't exciting, the way their weight divisions are structured, etc..?

You really a effing tool. "A company that looks acts and works like the ufc" u mean a billionaire italian owners with past proven mob ties, a loud mouthed aggressive threatening promoter figurehead and fighters who get paid absolute peanuts except the absolute top 2 in a division and u only have a handful of divisions" is that what u mean sherlock?

We had that in the 50s with the ibc.and for dana white read Don king except king generated more money and publicity for the sport.

mugabi wrote:The klitchkos are hardly a landmark in he boxing so don't worry about them.Pac man and mayweather have all been mega superstars but they followed srl,hearns,Whitaker,Duran,he'll even odlh who arguably at their peak were far better fighters.New fighters are emerging all the time and the present crop at 140 -147 is very very good

johnnykayo wrote:i was never a big mma / ufc fan but a good friend of mine who was a former british cruiserweight title contender and then crossed over to mma got me into the sport. i think its marketed well and the fighters meet the best of the divisions,never thought id say that but i think its a exciting sport and the new boxing of the 21st century. remember its only been goin since 1996,and its global now as it was banned in many states in the usa for years. i love boxing since the late 60,s as a child but the ufc is on the up in my opinion and we will just have to wait and see if it overtakes "the noble art"

Aden wrote:On the 'fighter's union' thing...

In my view fighters should get the following option "You can fight for this much money, when we tell you, where we tell you, against who we tell you, for how many scheduled rounds we tell you, at what weight we tell you, or you can go elsewhere; and if when you do fight you don't fight in such a way that our fans are satisfied, we'll have to let you go."

The above is pretty much what the UFC offer. If you play by their rules they'll look after you and you'll do alright, if you don't, they'll show you the door. The result? Regular, high quality, well-matched, exciting cards and fighters who do as they're told.

Clint Magnum wrote:You've just described a dictatorship...

Clint Magnum wrote: You've just described a dictatorship as well as describing how boxing was at the turn of the 20th Century. You think boxing is bad? It was way more corrupt and riddled with palm greasing with one governing body calling all the shots.

WelshJack wrote: it isn't going to get dramatically bigger than it already is.

Aden wrote:Boxing's biggest starts Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko are all coming to the end of their long and distinguished careers. So forget about them for a moment and think two-three years down the line.

I'm starting to think that I'd like to see the UFC open a boxing arm and set themselves up as the top dogs of global boxing, the place where most, if not all, boxers set their sights on getting a contract. If not the UFC a company that looks, acts, and works like the UFC.

What are your thoughts on this (please don't go off on one about wrestling being gay etc... we've heard it all before), in terms of the way they operate, the way they promote, the way they will cut fighters who aren't exciting, the way their weight divisions are structured, etc..?

Anzi wrote:The UFC don't pay their fighters enough, compared to boxing, can't see top level fighters working with them.

Aden wrote:

Anzi wrote:The UFC don't pay their fighters enough, compared to boxing, can't see top level fighters working with them.

Read my other replies on this. The UFC do pay their MMA fighters enough. Fewer people watch big event MMA pay-per-views than do big event boxing pay-per-views.

Cliff notes: Pay rates are proportional i.e. if more people watch big event UFC promoted boxing pay-per-view than do UFC promoted MMA pay-per-view, the boxers would get proportionally greater purses.