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Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 07:54
by palooka
Black Sam Bellamy wrote:I assume Foot escaped doing time for this ?

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crim ... -1-3969721
Unless you're there you don't really know what's happened; there are some people who can't wait to get going and some of them become doormen; I've seen plenty who are sound and others who love the power they have over others.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 08:10
by palooka
palooka wrote:
Black Sam Bellamy wrote:I assume Foot escaped doing time for this ?

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crim ... -1-3969721
Unless you're there you don't really know what's happened; there are some people who can't wait to get going and some of them become doormen; I've seen plenty who are sound and others who love the power they have over others. To be honest if one of those gets whacked I'm none too bothered, they dish it out often enough.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 10:52
by amirah
I watched a doc on the tax man Brian cockerill ,tear up is he has hard as he claims to be?

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 11:04
by palooka
amirah wrote:I watched a doc on the tax man Brian cockerill ,tear up is he has hard as he claims to be?
He was once described as the 6th hardest man on the planet but I don't know by who but I've been described as the 6th tightest man on the planet by my wife and I reckon there's more than 5 more careful than me; she also say's I'm the smelliest baastard in the world but I but that Brian Cockerill has a sweatier arse than me.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 11:15
by amirah
Haha u must b a right tight bastard to get that high of a ranking!! Lol I just asked as Iv had a lot of people say theses guys who do the books and programmes arnt wot they claim so just wanted to see if his claims were right but if he gets ranked that high maybe they are???

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 11:19
by palooka
No, all of them are bullies who know how to make a few quid; if they were as good as they say they'd be world famous in MMA or boxing, not bashing people up on estates and taking their drugs and selling them on or ripping gold chains off bodybuilders necks.

Most of them have a lot of bloodlust and would have been better and happier in the forces where they could get some action, terrify some people and be well thought of, maybe get a medal or 2.

Billiy Williams (Jango) was supposed to be a really good boxer in his youth but a nutter; a few who knew him (on BoxRec) said he was different league to Roy Shaw and McClean and the rest of them and that's why he was never mentioned by them.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 12:24
by amirah
I'm amazed ther claims don't get them endless amount of nutters wanting to fight them for saying no one has ever beat them

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 12:28
by palooka
amirah wrote:I'm amazed ther claims don't get them endless amount of nutters wanting to fight them for saying no one has ever beat them
You'd be amazed how many hard nuts can tolerate each others company but as soon as there is someone there who isn't on their level they have to show them 'respect' and give them a hiding. The vast majority don't get their reputations for beating other hard people but for making a real mess of smaller and weaker ones.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 12:33
by amirah
Pulling eyes out biting a nose off etc all seemed abit far fetched or mayb not if ther doing it wen being bully's etc

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 12:36
by palooka
amirah wrote:Pulling eyes out biting a nose off etc all seemed abit far fetched or mayb not if ther doing it wen being bully's etc
They'd not do that to anyone that they thought would do something back to them; it's about spreading fear really.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 12:39
by lillywhite14
palooka wrote:
amirah wrote:I'm amazed ther claims don't get them endless amount of nutters wanting to fight them for saying no one has ever beat them
You'd be amazed how many hard nuts can tolerate each others company but as soon as there is someone there who isn't on their level they have to show them 'respect' and give them a hiding. The vast majority don't get their reputations for beating other hard people but for making a real mess of smaller and weaker ones.
This. Half the so called hard cases around my way have built their "rep" through going over the top against normal people who frankly didnt want to know in the first place!

Fighting other so called hard cases seems too risky. Seems like a lot of fake friendships exist this way too.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 12:45
by amirah
Spot on that,so many giv it the big I am but wen u ask how they got the "hard man" rep it was by filling in people who dnt Wana fight!!

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 13:12
by Tomasino
palooka wrote:
amirah wrote:I'm amazed ther claims don't get them endless amount of nutters wanting to fight them for saying no one has ever beat them
You'd be amazed how many hard nuts can tolerate each others company but as soon as there is someone there who isn't on their level they have to show them 'respect' and give them a hiding. The vast majority don't get their reputations for beating other hard people but for making a real mess of smaller and weaker ones.

Well said. I learned this growing up. I wondered how the four hardest pudenda in the area all ran about with each other, whenever you had one on their own the other three were derided as bullies or blowhards but when together they would smash lesser folk for nothing. They were just scared of each other and it was easier to act as pals than get their reps destroyed by one another. Now they are old men and have had numerous hidings of young team wanting their reps. It's pretty pathetic really.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 13:21
by lillywhite14
The amusing thing is when one of these tough guys is in the presence of a genuine tough guy. Its embarrassing.

I was once mistaken for Tom Dallas in a pub many years ago by a so called up and coming tough guy, he was kissing my arse until I pointed out that I wasn't in fact Mr Dallas! Instead of brushing it off he insisted I was! I told him I wasn't and gave him my real name, he then proceeded to say that he knew me anyway and that I was a good boxer too! ( never had a bout :lol: ) Was strange as fvck. I can only assume he had gone so far with the arse kissing thing that he just carried on with it!

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 13:43
by Mimmy
There are nut cases all over the place in the UK, generally they turn up on my door step at work looking for a bed or a doctor to give them drugs. Its all part and parcel in a hospital. Ive had some weird fcukers through the door, even ambulance drivers want police escorts sometimes to take them to more equipped hospitals.

Doncaster has a few nut jobs too, a good few years ago a girl was randomly stabbed in the Arndale centre by a nut case, even in the park in Balby (near the railway) a lass was killed at random by another nutcase. I'm sure Palooka can confirm the Arndale Centre one as it was a fair few years ago.

I remember when i was around 10 we used to get 50p and get the bus from Edlo to Donny for 2p, to the Southern bus station run across the road to Sunspot arcade and spend the remainder and piss about in the car park above the bus station. There was a flood of blokes trying to get you into the bogs. Instinct told me it was wrong and not to go, man its a wonder I wasnt killed as a kid we were all over Donny, down the market with the gypsies kicking shit out of you. Its only when you look back now you think fcuk me!

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 13:49
by palooka
mimmy123 wrote:There are nut cases all over the place in the UK, generally they turn up on my door step at work looking for a bed or a doctor to give them drugs. Its all part and parcel in a hospital. Ive had some weird fcukers through the door, even ambulance drivers want police escorts sometimes to take them to more equipped hospitals.

Doncaster has a few nut jobs too, a good few years ago a girl was randomly stabbed in the Arndale centre by a nut case, even in the park in Balby (near the railway) a lass was killed at random by another nutcase. I'm sure Palooka can confirm the Arndale Centre one as it was a fair few years ago.

I remember when i was around 10 we used to get 50p and get the bus from Edlo to Donny for 2p, to the Southern bus station run across the road to Sunspot arcade and spend the remainder and piss about in the car park above the bus station. There was a flood of blokes trying to get you into the bogs. Instinct told me it was wrong and not to go, man its a wonder I wasnt killed as a kid we were all over Donny, down the market with the gypsies kicking poo out of you. Its only when you look back now you think fcuk me!
I can confirm that; the girl was called Bridie; her Mum and Dad used to run The Plough in town (next to Tut N Shive); cleaned their windows for years and years.

The other girl got stabbed last year in Elmfield Park; down Elmfield Road (past the Museum).

Both were killed at random by mentally ill women.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 13:53
by palooka
mimmy123 wrote:There are nut cases all over the place in the UK, generally they turn up on my door step at work looking for a bed or a doctor to give them drugs. Its all part and parcel in a hospital. Ive had some weird fcukers through the door, even ambulance drivers want police escorts sometimes to take them to more equipped hospitals.

Doncaster has a few nut jobs too, a good few years ago a girl was randomly stabbed in the Arndale centre by a nut case, even in the park in Balby (near the railway) a lass was killed at random by another nutcase. I'm sure Palooka can confirm the Arndale Centre one as it was a fair few years ago.

I remember when i was around 10 we used to get 50p and get the bus from Edlo to Donny for 2p, to the Southern bus station run across the road to Sunspot arcade and spend the remainder and piss about in the car park above the bus station. There was a flood of blokes trying to get you into the bogs. Instinct told me it was wrong and not to go, man its a wonder I wasnt killed as a kid we were all over Donny, down the market with the gypsies kicking poo out of you. Its only when you look back now you think fcuk me!


I bet you used to get your 50p like I used to; from the little pots on top of the fireplace!

I used to go to the SunSpot as well (it's closed now, it was bought by a bloke with a few pubs and they tried to make it a pub and did the work themselves, they dug the foundations out and not gone back, the bloke went bankrupt and had a nervous breakdown over it). I put my bus fair, 2 pence. into the penny falls thinking I was on to a winner and had to walk to Armthorpe, up Hatfield Lane! It took hours :(

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 14:01
by orbtastic
palooka wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:There are nut cases all over the place in the UK, generally they turn up on my door step at work looking for a bed or a doctor to give them drugs. Its all part and parcel in a hospital. Ive had some weird fcukers through the door, even ambulance drivers want police escorts sometimes to take them to more equipped hospitals.

Doncaster has a few nut jobs too, a good few years ago a girl was randomly stabbed in the Arndale centre by a nut case, even in the park in Balby (near the railway) a lass was killed at random by another nutcase. I'm sure Palooka can confirm the Arndale Centre one as it was a fair few years ago.

I remember when i was around 10 we used to get 50p and get the bus from Edlo to Donny for 2p, to the Southern bus station run across the road to Sunspot arcade and spend the remainder and piss about in the car park above the bus station. There was a flood of blokes trying to get you into the bogs. Instinct told me it was wrong and not to go, man its a wonder I wasnt killed as a kid we were all over Donny, down the market with the gypsies kicking poo out of you. Its only when you look back now you think fcuk me!
I can confirm that; the girl was called Bridie; her Mum and Dad used to run The Plough in town (next to Tut N Shive); cleaned their windows for years and years.

The other girl got stabbed last year in Elmfield Park; down Elmfield Road (past the Museum).

Both were killed at random by mentally ill women.
Do you remember when Carl Tracy was stabbed in the Arndale in '91? His brother came round my house that evening when we were all on acid, talk about mood changer. Oddly enough I walked past his grave yesterday when out for a walk.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 14:11
by palooka
orbtastic wrote:
palooka wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:There are nut cases all over the place in the UK, generally they turn up on my door step at work looking for a bed or a doctor to give them drugs. Its all part and parcel in a hospital. Ive had some weird fcukers through the door, even ambulance drivers want police escorts sometimes to take them to more equipped hospitals.

Doncaster has a few nut jobs too, a good few years ago a girl was randomly stabbed in the Arndale centre by a nut case, even in the park in Balby (near the railway) a lass was killed at random by another nutcase. I'm sure Palooka can confirm the Arndale Centre one as it was a fair few years ago.

I remember when i was around 10 we used to get 50p and get the bus from Edlo to Donny for 2p, to the Southern bus station run across the road to Sunspot arcade and spend the remainder and piss about in the car park above the bus station. There was a flood of blokes trying to get you into the bogs. Instinct told me it was wrong and not to go, man its a wonder I wasnt killed as a kid we were all over Donny, down the market with the gypsies kicking poo out of you. Its only when you look back now you think fcuk me!
I can confirm that; the girl was called Bridie; her Mum and Dad used to run The Plough in town (next to Tut N Shive); cleaned their windows for years and years.

The other girl got stabbed last year in Elmfield Park; down Elmfield Road (past the Museum).

Both were killed at random by mentally ill women.
Do you remember when Carl Tracy was stabbed in the Arndale in '91? His brother came round my house that evening when we were all on acid, talk about mood changer. Oddly enough I walked past his grave yesterday when out for a walk.
I do and I know of the lad who stabbed him; he was from Balby and got a life sentence. He stabbed the lad (Carl) over nothing outside Woolworths upstairs in the Arndale; my mates dad; Mr Cuffy was security and was about first there. It's an awful shame, it was over nothing at all; the lad who did it was just a daft kid and will be institutionalised. There was a bit of a knife culture around back then in Doncaster; horrible.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 14:43
by Jeff Thomas
What the average untrained 'hard man' knows about fighting is frankly hilarious. Ive seen it so many times in boxing and grappling. Absolute exposure.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 14:45
by palooka
Jeff Thomas wrote:What the average untrained 'hard man' knows about fighting is frankly hilarious. Ive seen it so many times in boxing and grappling. Absolute exposure.
Do they get their pants pulled down?

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 14:47
by Jeff Thomas
palooka wrote:
Jeff Thomas wrote:What the average untrained 'hard man' knows about fighting is frankly hilarious. Ive seen it so many times in boxing and grappling. Absolute exposure.
Do they get their pants pulled down?
:OhYes:

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 06:01
by Mimmy
Palooka!

What do you know about the Gabrielle Stanley Stabbing in Donny, boyfriend stabbed her.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tured.html


He was a body builder and generally there is something behind the scenes in bodybuilding.

Actually this happened in Scawsby, my sons mate lives there was in the RA together

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 06:12
by orbtastic
Stabbed her then hung himself. Some sort of domestic dispute. It was on the next street to me.

There was a shooting last year and he year before a lad I know slit his own throat at home.

Apart from that it's dead quiet.

Re: Mark Denton murdered

Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 06:15
by The Insider
orbtastic wrote:Stabbed her then hung himself. Some sort of domestic dispute. It was on the next street to me.

There was a shooting last year and he year before a lad I know slit his own throat at home.

Apart from that it's dead quiet.
Lovely. Do you need a lodger?