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Re: behind the ropes

Posted: 28 May 2014, 17:46
by BigRed
It reminded me of the footage of Khan sparring in the build up to Garcia and he was shown getting tagged and we all know what happened there!!

Re: behind the ropes

Posted: 28 May 2014, 17:55
by Boxerbeetle
chrisbonnie wrote:that rumours over on eastside that Eubank Jr dropped froch in sparring.

And i have to say going by that footage of them on the behind the ropes episode it would not surprise me in the slightest. I thought Froch looked terrible.
I'd be very surprised if the Eubank Jr rumours are true, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Groves ko's Froch fairly easily, Froch has always been wide open & his punch resistance looked awful in their 1st fight.

Credit to him for getting through it, but I think he's getting knocked out badly on Saturday night.

What were the scores from the first fight?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 18:43
by davie
Froch vs Groves 1 - What were the judges score cards at the time of the stoppage?

Re: What were the scores from the first fight?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 19:04
by jameswilson
Woefully incorrect.

Re: What were the scores from the first fight?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 19:26
by MarkMcBurney
From memory two judges had Groves 1 ahead and the other had Groves 5 ahead.

Re: What were the scores from the first fight?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 22:14
by crusader
76-75x2 and 78-73 all for Groves

I had it 78-73 Groves and the closest I could see is 77-74.

Re: What were the scores from the first fight?

Posted: 29 May 2014, 01:11
by davie
76-75 is a mile out. I cannot for a second, see how you could possibly score it that close.
Many of those rounds were completely one sided.

sometimes when you watch a fight and a lot of the rounds were close, you see a score card that is 4 or 5 point different from your own and you can understand where a few rounds would have swung the other way,
but groves was dominant in the rounds he won. Think I might have to watch the re-run today

Re: What were the scores from the first fight?

Posted: 29 May 2014, 02:25
by handsofstone
I had it 78-73 Groved at time of stoppage,wouldn't argue with 79-72

Re: behind the ropes

Posted: 29 May 2014, 02:45
by lefty
Boxerbeetle123 wrote:
chrisbonnie wrote:that rumours over on eastside that Eubank Jr dropped froch in sparring.

And i have to say going by that footage of them on the behind the ropes episode it would not surprise me in the slightest. I thought Froch looked terrible.
I'd be very surprised if the Eubank Jr rumours are true, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Groves ko's Froch fairly easily, Froch has always been wide open & his punch resistance looked awful in their 1st fight.

Credit to him for getting through it, but I think he's getting knocked out badly on Saturday night.
Awful?! He got dropped heavily by a shot which would knock out 95 % of fighters in all likelihood and then got hit with the kitchen sink for the next 6 rounds atleast. If that's awful punch resistance. God knows what good looks like.

Re: behind the ropes

Posted: 29 May 2014, 02:46
by lefty
I wouldnt read too much into that. Groves got beaten up by Eubank jnr in sparring before the first fight, im sure of it.

Re: behind the ropes

Posted: 29 May 2014, 04:01
by crusader
columbo wrote:I wouldnt read too much into that. Groves got beaten up by Eubank jnr in sparring before the first fight, im sure of it.
Why are you sure of it?

Re: behind the ropes

Posted: 29 May 2014, 04:47
by Boxerbeetle
columbo wrote:
Boxerbeetle123 wrote:
chrisbonnie wrote:that rumours over on eastside that Eubank Jr dropped froch in sparring.

And i have to say going by that footage of them on the behind the ropes episode it would not surprise me in the slightest. I thought Froch looked terrible.
I'd be very surprised if the Eubank Jr rumours are true, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Groves ko's Froch fairly easily, Froch has always been wide open & his punch resistance looked awful in their 1st fight.

Credit to him for getting through it, but I think he's getting knocked out badly on Saturday night.
Awful?! He got dropped heavily by a shot which would knock out 95 % of fighters in all likelihood and then got hit with the kitchen sink for the next 6 rounds atleast. If that's awful punch resistance. God knows what good looks like.
Ok awful was a bit strong, but to me he looked like he could have gone at any moment. Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on Froch, but there's surely no arguing that his punch resistance has got quite a bit worse - compare it to the 1st Kessler fight when he took massive shots for 12 rounds without taking a backward step.

Re: behind the ropes

Posted: 29 May 2014, 04:49
by lefty
Boxerbeetle123 wrote:
columbo wrote:
Boxerbeetle123 wrote:
I'd be very surprised if the Eubank Jr rumours are true, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Groves ko's Froch fairly easily, Froch has always been wide open & his punch resistance looked awful in their 1st fight.

Credit to him for getting through it, but I think he's getting knocked out badly on Saturday night.
Awful?! He got dropped heavily by a shot which would knock out 95 % of fighters in all likelihood and then got hit with the kitchen sink for the next 6 rounds atleast. If that's awful punch resistance. God knows what good looks like.
Ok awful was a bit strong, but to me he looked like he could have gone at any moment. Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on Froch, but there's surely no arguing that his punch resistance has got quite a bit worse - compare it to the 1st Kessler fight when he took massive shots for 12 rounds without taking a backward step.
His legs buckled in the first Kessler fight though if you watch it back.

Re: behind the ropes

Posted: 29 May 2014, 04:51
by lefty
crusader wrote:
columbo wrote:I wouldnt read too much into that. Groves got beaten up by Eubank jnr in sparring before the first fight, im sure of it.
Why are you sure of it?
Because before one of his fights, might of been the first Froch fight actually they done another one of these shows and he was sitting down in a chair looking all pensive and the narrator said he'd just endured a torrid sparring session with Eubank jnr.

Fight times for Froch VS Groves card this Sat?

Posted: 29 May 2014, 05:21
by jeej
Anybody know the fight times for this Saturday? :bag:

Re: Fight times for Froch VS Groves card this Sat?

Posted: 29 May 2014, 05:22
by TopGun
9:45pm is Froch/Gorves ring walk.

Re: Fight times for Froch VS Groves card this Sat?

Posted: 29 May 2014, 05:34
by Go Faster Stripes
Anthony Joshua on at 6pm (or just after).

Virgil Hunter's take on the Froch-Groves rematch

Posted: 29 May 2014, 05:47
by lefty
He also believes Groves was really hurt in the 9th round http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4wUNyeuvl0

Re: Fight times for Froch VS Groves card this Sat?

Posted: 29 May 2014, 05:51
by ste1983
Go Faster Stripes wrote:Anthony Joshua on at 6pm (or just after).
I thought Joshua was at 6.30pm (and then the rest pretty much start on the hour)

Also noticed on matchrooms site this morning (although it was playing up) seems Joshua's fight now over 6 not 8. I know I know it probably won't matter.

Re: Virgil Hunter's take on the Froch-Groves rematch

Posted: 29 May 2014, 06:01
by Josh1111
So do i, his head had slumped and his arms were dangling down. But hey, George says he wasn't so he wasn't :TU:

Piece on Groves's in the dailymail

Posted: 29 May 2014, 06:45
by lefty
It's pretty interesting actually. Met his now wife when he was a toddler at nursery http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... Froch.html

Re: Random Groves/Froch topics merged, they're all here

Posted: 29 May 2014, 07:21
by Datsue
I must say, the way this has been merged together it has a lot more narrative cohesion than your average Boxrec thread.

Re: behind the ropes

Posted: 29 May 2014, 07:21
by rossij8
MarkMcBurney wrote:Watching Froch spar Eubank Jr, is it just me that thought Froch looked wide open??
Eubank JR caught him with a big right hand that would have taken his head off without the guard

Re: Fight times for Froch VS Groves card this Sat?

Posted: 29 May 2014, 07:22
by ILikeBeer
TopGun wrote:9:45pm is Froch/Gorves ring walk.
So, when do we think the bell for the start of round one goes? About 10:30pm is my guess.

Re: Random Groves/Froch topics merged, they're all here

Posted: 29 May 2014, 07:38
by lefty
Is there a clip of Carl sparring Eubank jnr anywhere? I missed the show but would like to see it if possible. Cheers.