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Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 13:19
by handsofstone
JimJim2009 wrote:This thread has lost me. Who saw aliens in Skegness ?
Joshua,maybe? :confused:

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 14:31
by Mimmy
handsofstone wrote:
JimJim2009 wrote:This thread has lost me. Who saw aliens in Skegness ?
Joshua,maybe? :confused:

You wont be lost for long, keep following the Joshua band and you will find your way. You will see!

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 15:35
by JimJim2009
A few years back there was a guy who got national press coverage for his bet at the bookies that aliens would land by the year 2000. Mick somebody. He was my dad's neighbour. Smashing fella, just a bit loopy about aliens. I would often see him in his back garden staring into the skies at night. His belief that it was "going to happen" was utterly unshakeable. I thought of him when I read about aliens in Skegness.

I have no idea why I just typed this :confused:

(when I say a few years back, I mean pre-2000. It was after Independence Day had been a big bit, but before the year 2000)

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 17:39
by Mimmy
JimJim2009 wrote:A few years back there was a guy who got national press coverage for his bet at the bookies that aliens would land by the year 2000. Mick somebody. He was my dad's neighbour. Smashing fella, just a bit loopy about aliens. I would often see him in his back garden staring into the skies at night. His belief that it was "going to happen" was utterly unshakeable. I thought of him when I read about aliens in Skegness.

I have no idea why I just typed this :confused:

(when I say a few years back, I mean pre-2000. It was after Independence Day had been a big bit, but before the year 2000)

A lot of people believe in aliens take a look on H2 channel Sky, Ancient Aliens programme. Its quite fascinating really

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 17:54
by Ian1973
The chances of there NOT being alien life out there are pretty slim to say the least. The sheer size of the universe and the number of stars and planets out there makes it practically impossible that Earth is the only planet with intelligent lifeforms on it. There will be probably thousands, hundreds of thousands of others somewhere and one day it'll be a matter of fact. It may take hundreds of years yet but it'll happen. People ridicule things they don't know about and don't understand. They laughed years ago at the suggestion that the Earth could be round.

Not that any of this is relevant to a boxing thread but hey ho, just thought I'd join in. 8)

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 18:49
by ttornado
Ian1973 wrote:The chances of there NOT being alien life out there are pretty slim to say the least. The sheer size of the universe and the number of stars and planets out there makes it practically impossible that Earth is the only planet with intelligent lifeforms on it. There will be probably thousands, hundreds of thousands of others somewhere and one day it'll be a matter of fact. It may take hundreds of years yet but it'll happen. People ridicule things they don't know about and don't understand. They laughed years ago at the suggestion that the Earth could be round.

Not that any of this is relevant to a boxing thread but hey ho, just thought I'd join in. 8)
While life is likely, a silicon based worm on a largish rock near Alpha Centauri or further afield for example. The evolutionary need for intelligence is less clear and even less likely.

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 18:59
by Ian1973
ttornado wrote:
Ian1973 wrote:The chances of there NOT being alien life out there are pretty slim to say the least. The sheer size of the universe and the number of stars and planets out there makes it practically impossible that Earth is the only planet with intelligent lifeforms on it. There will be probably thousands, hundreds of thousands of others somewhere and one day it'll be a matter of fact. It may take hundreds of years yet but it'll happen. People ridicule things they don't know about and don't understand. They laughed years ago at the suggestion that the Earth could be round.

Not that any of this is relevant to a boxing thread but hey ho, just thought I'd join in. 8)
While life is likely, a silicon based worm on a largish rock near Alpha Centauri or further afield for example. The evolutionary need for intelligence is less clear and even less likely.

Intelligent life will be out there but the most interesting question for me is, even if we saw it would we recognise it? We expect little grey or green men and they may well be out there but just look at our own planet. There are millions of species out there, some things you wouldn't even know were living from sight alone. Alien life could look like anything, it may not have arms, legs or even what we'd think of as a head and yet it could be millions of years more advanced than us.

On the other hand there could be life that looks and speaks exactly like us. In a few hundred years time it may be a case of Johnny Campbell from Planet Earth vs Zog Zoggy from Planet XYGH2345214 for the heavyweight championship of the universe. Held on the moon of course, that'd be interesting with zero gravity. :DD

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 03:18
by Mimmy
Ian1973 wrote:
ttornado wrote:
Ian1973 wrote:The chances of there NOT being alien life out there are pretty slim to say the least. The sheer size of the universe and the number of stars and planets out there makes it practically impossible that Earth is the only planet with intelligent lifeforms on it. There will be probably thousands, hundreds of thousands of others somewhere and one day it'll be a matter of fact. It may take hundreds of years yet but it'll happen. People ridicule things they don't know about and don't understand. They laughed years ago at the suggestion that the Earth could be round.

Not that any of this is relevant to a boxing thread but hey ho, just thought I'd join in. 8)
While life is likely, a silicon based worm on a largish rock near Alpha Centauri or further afield for example. The evolutionary need for intelligence is less clear and even less likely.

Intelligent life will be out there but the most interesting question for me is, even if we saw it would we recognise it? We expect little grey or green men and they may well be out there but just look at our own planet. There are millions of species out there, some things you wouldn't even know were living from sight alone. Alien life could look like anything, it may not have arms, legs or even what we'd think of as a head and yet it could be millions of years more advanced than us.

On the other hand there could be life that looks and speaks exactly like us. In a few hundred years time it may be a case of Johnny Campbell from Planet Earth vs Zog Zoggy from Planet XYGH2345214 for the heavyweight championship of the universe. Held on the moon of course, that'd be interesting with zero gravity. :DD
What interests me is that other life if any simply cannot see us. Lets take the size of the universe for example. Yup its quite big, wells its never ending, so take the size of us to the size of the universe. Maybe we a the minutest speck of dust in this whole vacuum of loneliness. We are so tiny here that we are overlooked. however, again you never know what those damn Americans know over in Area51.

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 04:38
by keirw
ttornado wrote:
Ian1973 wrote:The chances of there NOT being alien life out there are pretty slim to say the least. The sheer size of the universe and the number of stars and planets out there makes it pouter cally impossible that Earth is the only planet with intelligent lifeforms on it. There will be probably thousands, hundreds of thousands of others somewhere and one day it'll be a matter of fact. It may take hundreds of years yet but it'll happen. People ridicule things they don't know about and don't understand. They laughed years ago at the suggestion that the Earth could be round.

Not that any of this is relevant to a boxing thread but hey ho, just thought I'd join in. 8)
While life is likely, a silicon based worm on a largish rock near Alpha Centauri or further afield for example. The evolutionary need for intelligence is less clear and even less likely.
The need for intelligence is essential in terms of natural selection, human beings did not become the most dominant race on earth due to being the biggest and srongest, it is due to our ability to manipulate our environment and make full use of available resources. There is a very good chance that a similar pattern of natural selection would take place on any planet that has life.

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 04:44
by keirw
Back on to the subject, I think Joshua's next opponent is spot on, if he can go the distance and still look dominant in the later rounds (similar to Callum Smith the other day) he will have answered a few questions.

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 05:50
by followthecamel
The earth is slowly being killed. Its infected by humans who are not as clever as they think. Were a virus lol

Oh and i think AJ is a future world champ :)

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 19:11
by jamesmcdonnell
At present technology, it would take 50,000 years to reach alpha proxima, our closest stars. There's obviously only a slim chance that there will be life at our nearest star system

There's a limit to how fast any craft travelling with humans can accellerate, as anything more than 10G force is enough to kill a human passenger. So unless we are able to either build 'generation ships' with large breeding human populations, that spend hundreds of thousands of years travelling between star systems, in the hope of finding other planets which sustain life, or we are able to develop technology which can transport both ships and living passnegers to the fujrther reaches of the universe, we're pretty much stuck where we are.

The other option is that humans are able to download their conscious minds onto some form of external chip or computer, which can then store the brain patterns, and recreate their bodies elsewhere. Sounds fanficul I know, but it's probably a lot more likely than finding warp drives which can transport both machines and their human passengers across the universe at faster than light speeds.

It seems likely that lifeforms in the universe are going to form along similar patterns, as there are certain precursors that have to be present for life to form (as far as we can tell of course) - gravity that is not too crushing, the presence of liquid water, a climate which is not too violent in it's extremes, and to be close, but not too close to a star. Given those conditions, there will of course be variance, but the patterns are likely to be familiar.

It seems very arrogant to assume that intelligence is anything more than a natural byproduct of evolution, and therefore it will be present on any planet which is able to support life long enough to allow evolutionary forces to develop long enough,

With the vast distances between planets however, it's quite possible that lifeforms will simply never find one another.

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 19:24
by jamesmcdonnell

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 21:08
by Boxing Prospect
I'm not sold on Joshua at all. Whilst it's good he's fighting Sprott next let's not pretend Sprott is the fighter he once was. His last 6 bouts have all been Prizefighter bouts and in the most recent of those he was stopped in a round by Kali Meehan, after struggling past Martin Rogan in an earlier stage of the competition. Lets not pretend Joshua would struggle with Rogan.

Less than a year ago Sprott was again stopped inside a round, that time by Erkan Teper. Admittedly Teper is a very under-rated and heavy handed fighter but that was a bit of a vicious beat down. Teper is heavy handed but much slower than Joshua and I dare saw Joshua takes out Sprott inside 2.

On paper it's the right step to take for Joshua but the contest with Yaroslav Zavorotnyi is, for my money, the much better test. We don't need to see Joshua piling up stoppages in 2 or 3 rounds, we need him extended a few rounds and Zavorotnyi may be the one capable of doing that.

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 23:03
by polecateddy
Ultimately he probably would be most vulnerable against a solid pressure fighter who could take him into the late rounds where his big muscles would get very heavy. Someone like Chisora. Or perhaps vulnerable to being caught cold by someone like Wilder. Such fights are probably 2 years away.

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 23:20
by Ian1973
BP / Polecateddy what on earth has that to do with Aliens?

Please try and stay on topic, Aliens are far more interesting than Joshua. :DD ;;-)

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 08:10
by jamesmcdonnell
Ian1973 wrote:BP / Polecateddy what on earth has that to do with Aliens?

Please try and stay on topic, Aliens are far more interesting than Joshua. :DD ;;-)
I know - honestly!! :salut:

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 11:40
by Broomhall
Ian1973 wrote:BP / Polecateddy what on earth has that to do with Aliens?

Please try and stay on topic, Aliens are far more interesting than Joshua. :DD ;;-)

I wonder if Aliens box? or have a white collar boxing scene? or have an alien boxing authority? I bet if they did have an alien heavyweight prospect he/it he would get better quality opposition than Joshua gets-unless Matchroom do the matchmaking for them as well?

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 12:16
by Sklar
Ian1973 wrote:They laughed years ago at the suggestion that the Earth could be round.
Earth is not round.

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 12:35
by jamesmcdonnell
It's an eccentric spheroid.

That should be oblate spheroid.

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 12:41
by lefty
Broomhall wrote:
Ian1973 wrote:BP / Polecateddy what on earth has that to do with Aliens?

Please try and stay on topic, Aliens are far more interesting than Joshua. :DD ;;-)

I wonder if Aliens box? or have a white collar boxing scene? or have an alien boxing authority? I bet if they did have an alien heavyweight prospect he/it he would get better quality opposition than Joshua gets-unless Matchroom do the matchmaking for them as well?
:OhYes:

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 13:07
by JimJim2009
jamesmcdonnell wrote:At present technology, it would take 50,000 years to reach alpha proxima, our closest stars. There's obviously only a slim chance that there will be life at our nearest star system

There's a limit to how fast any craft travelling with humans can accellerate, as anything more than 10G force is enough to kill a human passenger. So unless we are able to either build 'generation ships' with large breeding human populations, that spend hundreds of thousands of years travelling between star systems, in the hope of finding other planets which sustain life, or we are able to develop technology which can transport both ships and living passnegers to the fujrther reaches of the universe, we're pretty much stuck where we are.

The other option is that humans are able to download their conscious minds onto some form of external chip or computer, which can then store the brain patterns, and recreate their bodies elsewhere. Sounds fanficul I know, but it's probably a lot more likely than finding warp drives which can transport both machines and their human passengers across the universe at faster than light speeds.

It seems likely that lifeforms in the universe are going to form along similar patterns, as there are certain precursors that have to be present for life to form (as far as we can tell of course) - gravity that is not too crushing, the presence of liquid water, a climate which is not too violent in it's extremes, and to be close, but not too close to a star. Given those conditions, there will of course be variance, but the patterns are likely to be familiar.

It seems very arrogant to assume that intelligence is anything more than a natural byproduct of evolution, and therefore it will be present on any planet which is able to support life long enough to allow evolutionary forces to develop long enough,

With the vast distances between planets however, it's quite possible that lifeforms will simply never find one another.
We'll do the travelling either like they did it on the original Star Trek series, or else by wormholes. Anything else will take too long :TU:

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 14:27
by keirw
jamesmcdonnell wrote:At present technology, it would take 50,000 years to reach alpha proxima, our closest stars. There's obviously only a slim chance that there will be life at our nearest star system

There's a limit to how fast any craft travelling with humans can accellerate, as anything more than 10G force is enough to kill a human passenger. So unless we are able to either build 'generation ships' with large breeding human populations, that spend hundreds of thousands of years travelling between star systems, in the hope of finding other planets which sustain life, or we are able to develop technology which can transport both ships and living passnegers to the fujrther reaches of the universe, we're pretty much stuck where we are.

The other option is that humans are able to download their conscious minds onto some form of external chip or computer, which can then store the brain patterns, and recreate their bodies elsewhere. Sounds fanficul I know, but it's probably a lot more likely than finding warp drives which can transport both machines and their human passengers across the universe at faster than light speeds.

It seems likely that lifeforms in the universe are going to form along similar patterns, as there are certain precursors that have to be present for life to form (as far as we can tell of course) - gravity that is not too crushing, the presence of liquid water, a climate which is not too violent in it's extremes, and to be close, but not too close to a star. Given those conditions, there will of course be variance, but the patterns are likely to be familiar.

It seems very arrogant to assume that intelligence is anything more than a natural byproduct of evolution, and therefore it will be present on any planet which is able to support life long enough to allow evolutionary forces to develop long enough,

With the vast distances between planets however, it's quite possible that lifeforms will simply never find one another.
It does beg the question, would they even bother visiting Earth?
If they had spent centuries developing inter-stellar travel what interest would they have in visiting a planet full of primitive lifeforms?

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 14:47
by Broomhall
keirw wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:At present technology, it would take 50,000 years to reach alpha proxima, our closest stars. There's obviously only a slim chance that there will be life at our nearest star system

There's a limit to how fast any craft travelling with humans can accellerate, as anything more than 10G force is enough to kill a human passenger. So unless we are able to either build 'generation ships' with large breeding human populations, that spend hundreds of thousands of years travelling between star systems, in the hope of finding other planets which sustain life, or we are able to develop technology which can transport both ships and living passnegers to the fujrther reaches of the universe, we're pretty much stuck where we are.

The other option is that humans are able to download their conscious minds onto some form of external chip or computer, which can then store the brain patterns, and recreate their bodies elsewhere. Sounds fanficul I know, but it's probably a lot more likely than finding warp drives which can transport both machines and their human passengers across the universe at faster than light speeds.

It seems likely that lifeforms in the universe are going to form along similar patterns, as there are certain precursors that have to be present for life to form (as far as we can tell of course) - gravity that is not too crushing, the presence of liquid water, a climate which is not too violent in it's extremes, and to be close, but not too close to a star. Given those conditions, there will of course be variance, but the patterns are likely to be familiar.

It seems very arrogant to assume that intelligence is anything more than a natural byproduct of evolution, and therefore it will be present on any planet which is able to support life long enough to allow evolutionary forces to develop long enough,

With the vast distances between planets however, it's quite possible that lifeforms will simply never find one another.
It does beg the question, would they even bother visiting Earth?
If they had spent centuries developing inter-stellar travel what interest would they have in visiting a planet full of primitive lifeforms?


Depends if they can get Froch Groves 3 on.

Re: Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 15:06
by Finn
keirw wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:At present technology, it would take 50,000 years to reach alpha proxima, our closest stars. There's obviously only a slim chance that there will be life at our nearest star system

There's a limit to how fast any craft travelling with humans can accellerate, as anything more than 10G force is enough to kill a human passenger. So unless we are able to either build 'generation ships' with large breeding human populations, that spend hundreds of thousands of years travelling between star systems, in the hope of finding other planets which sustain life, or we are able to develop technology which can transport both ships and living passnegers to the fujrther reaches of the universe, we're pretty much stuck where we are.

The other option is that humans are able to download their conscious minds onto some form of external chip or computer, which can then store the brain patterns, and recreate their bodies elsewhere. Sounds fanficul I know, but it's probably a lot more likely than finding warp drives which can transport both machines and their human passengers across the universe at faster than light speeds.

It seems likely that lifeforms in the universe are going to form along similar patterns, as there are certain precursors that have to be present for life to form (as far as we can tell of course) - gravity that is not too crushing, the presence of liquid water, a climate which is not too violent in it's extremes, and to be close, but not too close to a star. Given those conditions, there will of course be variance, but the patterns are likely to be familiar.

It seems very arrogant to assume that intelligence is anything more than a natural byproduct of evolution, and therefore it will be present on any planet which is able to support life long enough to allow evolutionary forces to develop long enough,

With the vast distances between planets however, it's quite possible that lifeforms will simply never find one another.
It does beg the question, would they even bother visiting Earth?
If they had spent centuries developing inter-stellar travel what interest would they have in visiting a planet full of primitive lifeforms?

Technology is advancing so fast that we will most likely have a colony on mars in the next 15-20 years, virgin galactic will be doing day trips to space in the next 2 years, and with the development of things like the proposed space elevator we are going to be flying around to solar system exploring as the norm certainly before the century is out.

Its only a matter of time before we develop some type of new energy system to fuel space flight and this new graphene material is just the start of new super materials that will help the human race leap forward in its advancement.

The ska telescope is going to come up with some results that will challenge our understanding of or universe thats for sure its going to be 50 times stronger than hubble and compute what our current telescopes can in an entire year in just 4 hours.

The next 20 years is going to be really exciting, you know big things are happening when the UK is building a space hub and some boffins managed to put a wi-fi hot spot on the moon the other month.