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Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 22:33
by punchoutsb
Brut wrote: I guess you wouldn't know sarcasm if it walked up and bit you on the ass, oops my bad, that's where that tiny thing you call a brain resides.
:lol:

I meant your use of the word "retard", but clearly that went over your head which is not surprising at all.

Ask your nurse to explain my posts to you next time, gramps :TU:

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 22:57
by ikorolev
It looks like Hopkins sincerely believes that he is an Alien. He has plans for after beating Kovalev .... , and it is GGG:

http://www.BS.com/hopkins-hint ... lev--80649?

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 23:18
by ikorolev
Here is a 17-minute interview with Bernard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWT-16Eyyv8

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 23:26
by bigznyc
ikorolev wrote:It looks like Hopkins sincerely believes that he is an Alien. He has plans for after beating Kovalev .... , and it is GGG:

http://www.BS.com/hopkins-hint ... lev--80649?
I understand styles make fights but ggg would destroy even a jean pascal..guarantee..different levels of fighter..

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 23:38
by Othro
Bhop 116-112

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 03:25
by lefty
Boxing Writer wrote:
crusader wrote:GGG's current trainer?
Yeah, and what's wrong with this? Kovalev himself said GGG hits like a a sledgehammer in his interview - http://kovalboxer.com/en/interview/text/42--q-q.html
Trying to read that russian to english translation of that interview is hilarious LOL

This part is particularily funny

"It is. Still, let's go back to the previous question - about the "most-most".

- I do not know who to call. A peculiar Dimka cake stands, but it happens boring fights. While working in the ring, he - a real GM. Or take the world champion in the category of up to 72.6 kg Gennady Golovkin. He stands for Kazakhstan, but I think it is ours. Gena We are on friendly terms,"

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 03:39
by rampage
I'm surprised so many people think Kovalev wins. This looks like another easy win for Hopkins, IMO. Kovalev sucks. He has power, but his footwork and balance are atrocious, he's slow, he holds his hands way too loose and his head movement is mediocre making him an easy target, and it is easy to lull him to sleep, which is Hopkins' specialty. People talk about his work rate, but he is only busy when he hurts you, and I don't think he is a good enough boxer to be able to set Hopkins up for too many power shots. I see Hopkins keeping the pace slow and frustrating him with pot shots and movement, just as he always does, and then catching him with hard shots when Kovalev squares up and gets off balance, which he seems to do about 5-10 times each round.

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 04:24
by Bard of Boxrec
Wow. Last time I saw so many clueless people in one thread was one of the many 'Frankie Gavins is going to rules the WORLDS!' discussions on the British forum :lol:

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 05:40
by black panther
Riddick Blowe wrote:Wow. Last time I saw so many clueless people in one thread was one of the many 'Frankie Gavins is going to rules the WORLDS!' discussions on the British forum :lol:
:lol: :TU:

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 05:53
by crusader
rampage wrote:Kovalev sucks.

:lol:

Does that mean Hopkins sucks too if he loses? Would it also mean that every light heavyweight in the world sucks?

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 08:05
by black panther
crusader wrote:
rampage wrote:Kovalev sucks.

:lol:

Does that mean Hopkins sucks too if he loses? Would it also mean that every light heavyweight in the world sucks?
Of course they all suck. They're all "trashmen"! You are idiot. Stop posting! :lol:

:wink:

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 10:59
by Baby Face Finster
bigznyc wrote:
Baby Face Finster wrote:
bigznyc wrote:golovkin would bury hopkins even easier
What are you talking about? Golovkin is as crude as they come. He is a basic fighter who is only winning because he has only fought tomato cans.
macklin and geale are huys that would give peter quillen a battle
I was being sarcastic and facetious. Everyone on here knows I am the G-Train's biggest supporter.

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 11:10
by ikorolev
crusader wrote:
rampage wrote:Kovalev sucks.

:lol:

Does that mean Hopkins sucks too if he loses? Would it also mean that every light heavyweight in the world sucks?
That's what they are saying: the whole LHW sucks which is why the blown up MW (or SMW at best), Hopkins, is better than all of them. When he loses, they will just say that age finally caught up with him. There is no way to persuade this crowd most of who are racists or xenophobic.

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 12:38
by diddy
rampage wrote:I'm surprised so many people think Kovalev wins. This looks like another easy win for Hopkins, IMO. Kovalev sucks. He has power, but his footwork and balance are atrocious, he's slow, he holds his hands way too loose and his head movement is mediocre making him an easy target, and it is easy to lull him to sleep, which is Hopkins' specialty. People talk about his work rate, but he is only busy when he hurts you, and I don't think he is a good enough boxer to be able to set Hopkins up for too many power shots. I see Hopkins keeping the pace slow and frustrating him with pot shots and movement, just as he always does, and then catching him with hard shots when Kovalev squares up and gets off balance, which he seems to do about 5-10 times each round.
Hopkins went down twice against Pascal in first fight. And got hurt bad late in in the 2nd fight. Pascal is the only solid puncher he has faced in many years whom is a bigger guy. And pascal doesn't have half the power Kovalev possesses. If Pascal had fought Cleverly and Campillo there's no way he ends both those fights within 3 rounds.

When Kovalev hits you, you stay hurt. Can easily see Kovalev scoring a couple knockdowns here. Even of the flash variety. Bernard is gonna be 50 yrs old. Not the best time to be taking on by far the biggest puncher of your career.

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 15:55
by ikorolev
Main event dropped the lawsuit:

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/main-ev ... uit-255539?

This was probably one of conditions for Hopkins taking this fight.

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 16:34
by ttornado
ikorolev wrote:Main event dropped the lawsuit:

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/main-ev ... uit-255539?

This was probably one of conditions for Hopkins taking this fight.
I would say you're right. Hopkins good friend Haymon will be very thankful he's been kept out of the spotlight.

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 16:37
by ikorolev
ttornado wrote:
ikorolev wrote:Main event dropped the lawsuit:

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/main-ev ... uit-255539?

This was probably one of conditions for Hopkins taking this fight.
I would say you're right. Hopkins good friend Haymon will be very thankful he's been kept out of the spotlight.
Bernard mentions the lawsuit in this interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWT-16Eyyv8

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 16:40
by chucktaylor
ikorolev wrote: That's what they are saying: the whole LHW sucks which is why the blown up MW (or SMW at best), Hopkins, is better than all of them. When he loses, they will just say that age finally caught up with him. There is no way to persuade this crowd most of who are racists or xenophobic.
He is going to be 50 at the time of the fight! This isn't a guy who's in his mid-late 30's and might be passed his athletic prime- Hopkins will be eligible to join AARP when he fights Kovalev. That's not an excuse, just a fact. Kovalev is building his career, but anything Hopkins does now is just more icing on his Hall of Famer legend cake.
You think people are racist or xenophobic if they say Hopkins lost, at least in great part, due to being 50 years old?! :o
What are the chances Kovalev (or anyone Hopkins has faced recently) will be competing at that age, let alone against young, hungry world level fighters?

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 18:10
by thundercat1884
You got to look at every aspect of a fight. Sergey Kovalev has not been past 8 rounds in any of his fights. Bernard is definitely aware of that. If my memory serves correct, Bhop has lost to guys with better hand speed them him like Roy Jones (1st fight), Joe Calzaghe, Jermaine Taylor, and Chad Dawson. And most of those loses were close or disputed losses. Bhop seems to have a keen sense of how to deal with power punches.

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 19:54
by Chepppaaa
pressure + high punch rate beats X

joe did it this way

taylor did it this way


this fight is all wrong for X. because kovalev has as much power as joe and taylor combined :OhYes: , on top he is realy good at not only punching hard, but punching to the right spots.
kovalev is my winner, i have no doubt about it. but one thing is for sure, if X pulled it off and win, than it would be one of the most remarkable things i've ever witnessed ever in boxing.

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 20:06
by Brut
Chepppaaa wrote:pressure + high punch rate beats X

joe did it this way

taylor did it this way


this fight is all wrong for X. because kovalev has as much power as joe and taylor combined :OhYes: , on top he is realy good at not only punching hard, but punching to the right spots.
kovalev is my winner, i have no doubt about it. but one thing is for sure, if X pulled it off and win, than it would be one of the most remarkable things i've ever witnessed ever in boxing.

I'm so glad that we're on opposite sides of the equation because knowing a tard like you is going with Kovalev insures a victory for Hopkins, you are the most bandwagon flip-floppinest MoFo on this site. A bet you'll be hobknobbing Hopkins after he wins.

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 20:49
by ikorolev
Brut wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:pressure + high punch rate beats X

joe did it this way

taylor did it this way


this fight is all wrong for X. because kovalev has as much power as joe and taylor combined :OhYes: , on top he is realy good at not only punching hard, but punching to the right spots.
kovalev is my winner, i have no doubt about it. but one thing is for sure, if X pulled it off and win, than it would be one of the most remarkable things i've ever witnessed ever in boxing.

I'm so glad that we're on opposite sides of the equation because knowing a tard like you is going with Kovalev insures a victory for Hopkins, you are the most bandwagon flip-floppinest MoFo on this site. A bet you'll be hobknobbing Hopkins after he wins.
What will Brut say after Hopkins loses by KO ?

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 21:22
by Brut
ikorolev wrote:What will Brut say after Hopkins loses by KO ?
No fighter has ever KO'd Hopkins and it won't happen with a fighter who has faced nothing but a bunch of bums, I know you're in your wishful thinking mode but you keep buying into and believing the Kovalev hype all you want.

If Kovalev wins by KO then I would gladly congratulate him because I,, unlike you am able to appreciate a fighter and give credit where credit is due whether I favor that fighter or not.

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 21:31
by ikorolev
Brut wrote:
ikorolev wrote:What will Brut say after Hopkins loses by KO ?
No fighter has ever KO'd Hopkins and it won't happen with a fighter who has faced nothing but a bunch of bums, I know you're in your wishful thinking mode but you keep buying into and believing the Kovalev hype all you want.

If Kovalev wins by KO then I would gladly congratulate him because I,, unlike you am able to appreciate a fighter and give credit where credit is due whether I favor that fighter or not.
Fair enough. Are you sure about "gladly" though ? If Hopkins wins, I will accept that he is a true Alien.

Re: BHop vs Kovalev Discussion

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 21:57
by rampage
crusader wrote:
rampage wrote:Kovalev sucks.

:lol:

Does that mean Hopkins sucks too if he loses? Would it also mean that every light heavyweight in the world sucks?
Um, no. It would mean that he will be two months shy of 50. Let that sink in for a minute.

I don't think it's any secret that the light heavyweight division is very weak at the moment, so yeah--pretty much every light heavy sucks right now or is older than the hills (mind you, when I say sucks, I'm comparing them to other successful pros--obviously, they don't suck in the same way that Charlie Zelenoff sucks).

I won't knock anyone for thinking Kovalev will win--you may be right. His power may get him through. I just happen to think that he is no more talented a boxer than Murat or Shumenov. But make no mistake, if he does win it will only be because Bhop is 50. Kovalev isn't a talented boxer, and he's exactly the kind of guy that Hopkins, Tarver, and Jones would have boxed circles around in their primes.