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Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 13:26
by JCS
SenorPipino wrote:Some odds posted about 11 hours before tonight's Soliman-Taylor title scrap:
Soliman has climbed to a -350 favorite. Taylor backers can get +250.
In the proposition bets, Soliman is a solid -160 to win by decision and +400 to score a KO.
Taylor is also +400 to somehow score a KO, but a hefty +850 to win by decision.
The overs/unders is 9.5 rounds with the overs a very strong -500.
You can get +330 if you feel the bout will end earlier.
So all in all, the oddsmakers feel that Soliman will score a convincing decision or win by a late round stoppage.
Without knowing anything else, these odds make it seem like the fight is in Australia.
Though to me, it looks like Soliman is still about -275 or -300.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 14:03
by Bard of Boxrec
Soliman stoppage 4/1 looks good.
I can see a totally shot Taylor getting hit often and the ref stepping in.
Only problem is Soliman is busy but not exactly a crisp puncher and really has no power at all.
Still, I think those odds might be good value.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 14:33
by Baby Face Finster
At this point in time I think Taylor Swift would give Soliman a harder fight than Jermain.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 15:08
by SenorPipino
Riddick Blowe wrote:Soliman stoppage 4/1 looks good.
I can see a totally shot Taylor getting hit often and the ref stepping in.
Only problem is Soliman is busy but not exactly a crisp puncher and really has no power at all.
Still, I think those odds might be good value.
Agree with you totally.
Have the feeling you'll see real early that a shot Taylor has no chance. Will get hit repeatedly and have trouble getting off his own punches.
True, Soliman is no puncher, but a busy guy like him is going to connect often and wear down a depleted, faded Taylor.
Geez, the guy had a brain bleed in the Abraham fight and he's now stepping in with an alphabet champion. I'm certain the commission has spoken with the referee about not letting Taylor take too many clean shots. They don't want a tragedy to occur. That will really make the Miss. commission (along with the IBF) look bad.
BTW, you're not the only one who feels those 4/1 odds on a Soliman stoppage look good.
Apparently the bettors agree with you as the books are now offering only -350 on the champion by KO.
A decision victory by the Aussie now only garners -150.
Sharpies recognize that a damaged Taylor doesn't belong in the ring, much less in a title contest.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 16:57
by PsychoGamer
Baby Face Finster wrote:At this point in time I think Taylor Swift would give Soliman a harder fight than Jermain.
Taylor (Jermain) beat Truax, after getting his brain hurt against Abraham. He may be shot, but he's still a danger... and Soliman isn't that special. Maybe he will surprise a few of people today, and if he only gets past round one, he would already do better than Taylor Swift.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 17:42
by diddy
PsychoGamer wrote:Baby Face Finster wrote:At this point in time I think Taylor Swift would give Soliman a harder fight than Jermain.
Taylor (Jermain) beat Truax, after getting his brain hurt against Abraham. He may be shot, but he's still a danger... and Soliman isn't that special. Maybe he will surprise a few of people today, and if he only gets past round one, he would already do better than Taylor Swift.
Truax? Man that's a huge win. Truax who dropped him? Truax who drew with Ossie Duran this year?
Taylor is finished. There's always the possibility he could be PED'd up for this but not even that will
help his brain and shot legs.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 17:49
by crusader
It was also 2.5 years ago, which can be a long time for someone who was clearly regressing. It may seem like a recent fight, but that's probably because he's only fought twice since that bout, incidentally against very weak opposition.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 18:41
by SenorPipino
PsychoGamer wrote:Baby Face Finster wrote:At this point in time I think Taylor Swift would give Soliman a harder fight than Jermain.
Taylor (Jermain) beat Truax, after getting his brain hurt against Abraham. He may be shot, but he's still a danger... and Soliman isn't that special. Maybe he will surprise a few of people today, and if he only gets past round one, he would already do better than Taylor Swift.
Truax is an ESPN 2 level fighter. Seen him there on multiple occasions.
A tough win over him doesn't exactly send Taylor's stock soaring.
Of course, tonight, Taylor is nothing more than an ESPN 2 fighter also.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 21:56
by crusader
Anyone catch that bad acting job on the undercard? I'm glad he lost the fight.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:08
by eastezrider
crusader wrote:Anyone catch that bad acting job on the undercard? I'm glad he lost the fight.
Not sure wot his day job is, but; hopefully he didn't quit it... boxing (ahem) career #over...
Still hating the "No Standing 8 Count" Rule.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:18
by N2 Shape
^^^what happend?
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:18
by N2 Shape
Any Soliman / Taylor RBR?
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:21
by ikorolev
Did Soliman forget that he is supposed to be a volume puncher ? Hardly threw anything in rd 1.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:22
by diddy
Soliman looked absolutely horrendous in that first round. Maybe he was just feeling JT out but that was pathetic.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:23
by JCS
That 1st round was a shitfest.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:25
by giacomino
Second too. This could be a 12-round shitfest unless Soliman starts engaging a little
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:25
by diddy
Felix Sturm needs to retire.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:28
by Perseus
Somebody shit in the ring?
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:28
by JCS
A shopworn former champ vs. an energetic guy who can't box.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:28
by giacomino
Jesus, This is making a Hopkins/Ward fight look like 3G vs Froch
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:29
by JCS
This is about what I expected. Waiting for that Soliman blow out everyone has been calling for.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:30
by diddy
This is for the middleweight world title.
These guys SUCK.
Prime Taylor makes a joke of this fight.
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:31
by eastezrider
JCS wrote:A shopworn former champ vs. an energetic guy who can't box.
Spot on...
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:33
by JCS
Has anyone been able to reliably score this?
Re: Soliman vs Jermain Taylor
Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 22:33
by giacomino
Holy crap. My score after four rounds is 0-0