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magwitch wrote:

lefty wrote:

jujigatame wrote:I have no problem with a Groves/Dirrell fight. Sure Dirrell is a "champ" but he's not elite like a Ward or Froch. He's just a beltholder who beat an aging B-lister in Bika. Anyone who thinks Groves doesn't "deserve" that fight is putting way too much stock in ABC belts and their value.

I dont disagree with the fight being made either and actually would like to see it, but couldnt it be said that Groves got stopped against an ageing fighter? Admittedly even if he is one of the top guys in the division. Froch is older than Bika.

lefty wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: I think Groves might be better than Bute. The Froch fight was one thing, but I did not like what I saw during Bute/Pascal. He was resigned to losing that fight.

We don't know. Groves purposely selected a feather-fisted opponent and was still shaken a couple of times looking unimpressive. Who knows how he would look against somebody like Bika or Rodriguez who can put him to sleep with one punch.

Isnt Rodriguez supposed to be fighting at light heavy now? Well he doesnt seem to be fighting at all at the moment but you get my drift.

digzee wrote:

lefty wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:I still think Groves is a top 10 SMW. The punch he got knocked out with would have KO'd almost everyone else at 168 also. I think Groves can beat Dirrell and Bika.

I dont believe the punch Froch landed was that big myself. Froch has hit opponents with equally big punches before and they have stood up to them. The difference between him and them is the fact that he doesnt have the best chin. It's not the worst going by any stretch either but he's always gonna be somewhat vulnerable. A bit like Bute.

Its not always about the power of the punch, at that time George was throwing a punch at the same time and didn't see it coming, it landed perfectly on the sweet spot. Anyone can get knocked out with a punch they don't see coming.