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Everyone knows what Khan is, never over-rated, fast hands, good movement and can cause problems ............. boom on the night face down or face up

diddy wrote:He caught a guy with a weak beard after badly losing the early rounds. Khan has since changed his fighting tactics. If they fought again tmrw I suspect it would be different.

Garcia doesnt look great lately. He lost to Herrera. He arguably lost tonight. He seems to have already hit his peak and is on the downtrend. Time will tell. Good fighter. Not great. I'd like to see a rematch of this fight tonight. One in which Peterson fights the entire fight like he did the 2nd half - coming forward.

Khan hasn't changed d*ck since he fought Garcia, he just looked ok vs a nobody in Collazo and ok vs a guy who was coming off a punishing loss (Alexander) to Porter.

If they fought again Garcia would knock his china chinned ass out even sooner than he did the first time. Sure, I agree he lost to Herrera but Herrera is very underrated on his boxing skills/abilities and would give anyone fits in their weight class which is why many avoid facing him.

I don't think Garcia lost arguably, I thought Peterson gave away too many of the early rounds and then came on too late. I'd love to see a rematch and if LP walks him down early like he did late in tonight's fight then he should be able to win easily or by stoppage.

I still disagree with you in regards to Garcia because even in his toughest fights to both Herrera and Peterson he was not totally dominated or beaten so badly that he looked average.

KBB wrote:

macaca wrote:Lucas couldn't see for most of the fight retard. KBB

Really? Do you honestly believe that is true? I saw the fight and he could see fine, sure his eye puff up a bit but they were able to manage the swelling and he was able to see fine, it was not totally closed.

Stop making excuses retard.

TIME FOR BED D!CKHEAD

KBB wrote:

macaca wrote:Lucas couldn't see for most of the fight retard. KBB

Really? Do you honestly believe that is true? I saw the fight and he could see fine, sure his eye puff up a bit but they were able to manage the swelling and he was able to see fine, it was not totally closed.

Stop making excuses retard.

Wow thats an amazing ability you have. How am I seeing? i think I need glasses but not sure. What do you think?

ruin795 wrote:Wow thats an amazing ability you have. How am I seeing? i think I need glasses but not sure. What do you think?

So what? You posted a pic where his eye was somewhat closed but go and look at the fight and you will see where the eye was opened up and never totally closed.

Yeah that pic sure proved a lot.

KBB wrote:

ruin795 wrote:Wow thats an amazing ability you have. How am I seeing? i think I need glasses but not sure. What do you think?

So what? You posted a pic where his eye was somewhat closed but go and look at the fight and you will see where the eye was opened up and never totally closed.

Yeah that pic sure proved a lot.

Proof ... Holy fornicate

Go to bed ...

KBB wrote:

ruin795 wrote:Wow thats an amazing ability you have. How am I seeing? i think I need glasses but not sure. What do you think?

So what? You posted a pic where his eye was somewhat closed but go and look at the fight and you will see where the eye was opened up and never totally closed.

Yeah that pic sure proved a lot.

Thats great but I didn't post the pic... Starting to doubt your eyesight now......

....and your other retarded middleweight thread? How is that going D!ckhead? (KBB)

macaca wrote:....and your other retarded middleweight thread? How is that going D!ckhead? (KBB)

Everyone should simply put him on ignore.

Baby Face Finster wrote:

macaca wrote:....and your other retarded middleweight thread? How is that going D!ckhead? (KBB)

Everyone should simply put him on ignore.

True

Done.

Gotta say i love the passion that all my fellow boxrecers show.

We all get pissed and worked up for smallest shiit
myself included.
DD

kidbazooka1 wrote:Gotta say i love the passion that all my fellow boxrecers show.

We all get pissed and worked up for smallest shiit
myself included.
DD

Baby Face Finster wrote:

macaca wrote:....and your other retarded middleweight thread? How is that going D!ckhead? (KBB)

Everyone should simply put him on ignore.

Please do. Just be like a little girl who calls herself "babyface". A flat out Coward.

I thought Danny Garcia won.
Lamont Peterson's running or borderline running may have cost him rounds and an eventual decision, he did come on later in the fight but it wasn't enough.

KBB wrote:

diddy wrote:He caught a guy with a weak beard after badly losing the early rounds. Khan has since changed his fighting tactics. If they fought again tmrw I suspect it would be different.

Garcia doesnt look great lately. He lost to Herrera. He arguably lost tonight. He seems to have already hit his peak and is on the downtrend. Time will tell. Good fighter. Not great. I'd like to see a rematch of this fight tonight. One in which Peterson fights the entire fight like he did the 2nd half - coming forward.

Khan hasn't changed d*ck since he fought Garcia, he just looked ok vs a nobody in Collazo and ok vs a guy who was coming off a punishing loss (Alexander) to Porter.

If they fought again Garcia would knock his china chinned ass out even sooner than he did the first time. Sure, I agree he lost to Herrera but Herrera is very underrated on his boxing skills/abilities and would give anyone fits in their weight class which is why many avoid facing him.

I don't think Garcia lost arguably, I thought Peterson gave away too many of the early rounds and then came on too late. I'd love to see a rematch and if LP walks him down early like he did late in tonight's fight then he should be able to win easily or by stoppage.

I still disagree with you in regards to Garcia because even in his toughest fights to both Herrera and Peterson he was not totally dominated or beaten so badly that he looked average.

You are ignorant if you think Khan hasnt changed anything since Garcia. He fights more off the back foot now. TONS of movement side to side. He gets his work in and gets out of harm's way much moreso than before when he stayed in the pocket for an extra second giving his opponent more time to get in a meaningful counter. His changes are apparent. He is much more safety oriented than before and doesnt overcommit throwing the extra punch at the end of his combinations - the extra punch that got him into trouble repeatedly. He's learned a little less = alot more.

I thought Garcia won the fight. He landed more shots than Peterson who may have done the eye catching stuff, but more of the scoring shots landed were by Garcia. It's about scoring shots, not shuffling about and looking flashy,

I thought the judges were right.

I'm flabbergasted that anyone thinks Peterson won this. He had success when he came forward and walked Garcia down, but that was like 20% of the fight. Most of the time was spent with Peterson dancing around doing absolutely nothing.

It can mean that but that just is not what he was doing.
It was not just "movement" it was blatant running.
Try all you want but you can't justify your guy blatantly running and good luck finding judges who give rounds to blatant runners.
They gave him the rounds he won, the close scorecards show that but he didn't win enough rounds to deserve the win.

Do you think they have a clock to so they can see how many laps the boxers can do around the ring in three minutes?
Saying boxing is a combat sport not a race is not ridiculous it is an indisputable fact.
Boxing is not a race period.
Peterson did a good job of making a lot rounds look like a track meet tonight.

Rounds aren't supposed to be scored solely on whether one guy 'ran' or not and movement is an important part of boxing that is one of the first things fighters are taught. Someone can move excessively, just as they can plod forward or do many other things excessively, but there are still other criteria that are be considered in scoring and fighters should be compared on all of these in each round. By reducing it to 'but he ran!' those factors are overlooked and the focus is explicitly on one fighter with little account of how the other performed.

Using the line 'boxing is not a race' is ridiculous in the manner it was used. It adds zero strength to your argument and ignores the fact that Peterson was still throwing punches and showing effective defense, which are obviously things one doesn't do in a race; it was equally ridiculous when people used it with reference to the Lara-Canelo fight when Lara landed more punches and marked Canelo's face up, again, things that don't occur in races. While it's true that boxing isn't a race, it isn't snooker, darts, a beauty pageant, or advanced calculus either. I guess those are unassailable points to use in your future arguments since they're factual statements too.

Keep in mind that I think the decision was very justifiable, but the way certain people scream ''runner!" and determine their deserved winner based on no stated reasons other than someone moving too much for their liking is risible.

LP 115 113. Any thoughts of Garcia fighting at 147 need to be scrapped immediately.

Yay for PBC & its exciting nail-biting match-ups that deliver exactly what the fans want! Clear number ones in every division & tooth & nail slugfests!

YAY

Datsue wrote:Yay for PBC & its exciting nail-biting match-ups that deliver exactly what the fans want! Clear number ones in every division & tooth & nail slugfests!

YAY

PED BOY ran away for 6 rounds and didnt throw enough punches to win rounds. Yes he showed movement and may have done so in order to figure out Garcia. Stop whining. He still RAN AWAY nonetheless and didnt deserve to win enough rounds that would give him a decision. He clearly beat the sh*t out of Danny "Dogsh*t" Garcia but he didnt deserve the decision on points.

I think the running Peterson did in the first half, although sometimes effective and made Garcia look slow and confused, made the judges frustrated along with the fans. What was irritating to me was the sound coming from Peterson everytime he threw....reminded me of Broner. It reminded me of Canelo vs Lara. Did Peterson land more total punches? Not sure, but did show he was the better boxer. The second half though, Peterson was for the most part the aggressor, and won most of those rounds.

I won't complain about a decision either way, even though I thought Peterson should have gotten the nod. I saw a comment on another site from a video where they said it looked like Garcia said he lost. Anyway, it was a nothing fight at a catch-weight. Both are plenty big enough to be at 147.

diddy wrote:You are ignorant if you think Khan hasnt changed anything since Garcia. He fights more off the back foot now. TONS of movement side to side. He gets his work in and gets out of harm's way much moreso than before when he stayed in the pocket for an extra second giving his opponent more time to get in a meaningful counter. His changes are apparent. He is much more safety oriented than before and doesnt overcommit throwing the extra punch at the end of his combinations - the extra punch that got him into trouble repeatedly. He's learned a little less = alot more.

And you're ignorant if you think Khan proved he was so different since facing Garcia, you claimed he proved it by facing very limited opposition like Collazo (who doesn't know how to cut off a ring if it killed him), vs Alexander (who doesn't know how to spell adjustment, let alone make any).

It's just too bad your fanboy love for Amir blinds you to these obvious facts, but as soon as he grows some balls to face a guy like Kell, Thurman, and actually earns his way into a fight vs Manny or Floyd then you'll see how easily he is exposed for not being able to show he's changed anything.

I had it 117-111 garcia. That said, there was definitely one round that i probably could have gave to lamont but didn't just because i was so irritated watching him run.

Awful game plan. He won't but should fire barry hunter for coming up with that game plan.