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Boxerbeetle wrote:I don't ever see this fight happening anyway tbh. Fury's camp must know he'd get knocked out; I reckon they'll try to delay the title shot until after Wlad retires.

If he wants an easy title then why isn't he going after Chagaev?

Losing to Wlad won't harm Fury's chances of getting another world title shot after Wlad retires.

Why would he avoid the big payday and a fight with a great risk vs reward balance?

Horse wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:I don't ever see this fight happening anyway tbh. Fury's camp must know he'd get knocked out; I reckon they'll try to delay the title shot until after Wlad retires.

If he wants an easy title then why isn't he going after Chagaev?

Losing to Wlad won't harm Fury's chances of getting another world title shot after Wlad retires.

Why would he avoid the big payday and a fight with a great risk vs reward balance?

Call it a hunch.

Boxerbeetle wrote:Call it a hunch.

Based on what logic?

Horse wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:Call it a hunch.

Based on what logic?

No logic in particular, it's just a hunch.

Boxerbeetle wrote:No logic in particular, it's just a hunch.

Just a hunch that Fury is a coward? He was willing to fight Haye, so why not Wlad?

How does he benefit from obviously ducking Wlad? Why become his mandatory if he wanted to duck him? It doesn't make any real sense.

expe wrote:I think it'll be easier for Tyson to find sparring partners than Wlad, won't find any on the same level but there's enough 6 foot 6 heavyweights out there for them to bring in a few decent ones to prepare him. Wlad will have good sparring partners, but where's he going to find a 6'9" switch hitting heavyweight?

I dont know about switching stances but Dong is pretty big that's for sure. Thompson would be a good southpaw to have in the camp. Also based on previous history with Fury its more likely to see Price in Klitschko camp as well.

It would be fantastic for British boxing if Fury won, good for the heavyweight division as well. I think Fury gives Wlad lots of problems until at some point he gets nailed, really hope he does it though. A 6 foot 9, singing, mad as a box of frogs champ would light the whole division up.

Manchester Massive wrote:It would be fantastic for British boxing if Fury won, good for the heavyweight division as well. I think Fury gives Wlad lots of problems until at some point he gets nailed, really hope he does it though. A 6 foot 9, singing, mad as a box of frogs champ would light the whole division up.

Yep would be fun for a while at least!

Horse wrote:

WildWaylon wrote:I think Wlad will KO Fury, but if it does go to the scorecards Wlad will still win. TBH I see Fury at European level.

Who's at world level then?

Not Fury, he only thinks he is. I want to see this fight to see Wlad put the nasty pudendum in his place.

WildWaylon wrote:Not Fury, he only thinks he is. I want to see this fight to see Wlad put the nasty pudendum in his place.

Awful answer.

WildWaylon wrote:

Horse wrote:

WildWaylon wrote:I think Wlad will KO Fury, but if it does go to the scorecards Wlad will still win. TBH I see Fury at European level.

Who's at world level then?

Not Fury, he only thinks he is. I want to see this fight to see Wlad put the nasty pudendum in his place.

Fury is definitely at world level. That may speak volumes about the current state of the Heavyweight division, but that's another argument altogether...

I'm looking forward to this fight like no other in the last ten years. I'm confident it will be held in the UK too. Age is catching up with Wlad and Fury is better than he is often given credit for. Wlad will go in a strong favourite and likely win inside the distance but at this stage in his career and given the dimensions and attitude of his opponent, I wouldn't be too surprised if he came unstuck. I like both fighters as men and hope they both put in a good showing at Wembley.

SamWise72 wrote:Fury has absolutely no chance; he's not a big hitter, can barely box at all, has a dodgy chin, is never in shape, and isn't even going to have his customary size advantage. That said, he will at least try to win, and that makes it worth watching. I expect him to force the pace, and for Wlad to have to knock him out, and I expect that he will go out on his shield.

Sorry have to comment on this!.
Can barely box!, he gave Chisora a boxing lesson (something Wlad failed to do and Dereck was proclaimed a hero and is now starting to show how good a boxer he really is. Before he has done the Macho thing but under Peter Fury he is a more compose fighter who is starting to show just what a great boxing brain he has.
Never In Shape! Since teaming up with Peter Fury he has been in the best shape of his life and better than most HW out there, believe me he is a very fit man who has been in shape over the past couple of years. Getting stronger fitter and faster.
Dodgy Chin!. Put down yes put never looked like being stopped. Put down because of balance, not in right position maybe but never ever hurt.
Absolutely no chance! At 26 Tyson is a young fit and altra confident HW, has the height & reach, can switch hit (not just for a couple of seconds but for an entire fight if he wants to!) so if he has no chance then all the other HW's might as well fight a few bums earn some money and buy a market stall. Wald is now at an age where he will get old very quickly in the ring one of these days and why not against a British HW!

It's all about opinion and every one is valid but I simply can not agree with this post. Tyson Fury has more chance than most against a good but aging champion, I honestly believe that Tyson will fulfil his destiny beat Wald and become Champion.

Of course it is HW boxing and one punch could put him on his arse and make me eat my words!

mervt wrote:

SamWise72 wrote:Fury has absolutely no chance; he's not a big hitter, can barely box at all, has a dodgy chin, is never in shape, and isn't even going to have his customary size advantage. That said, he will at least try to win, and that makes it worth watching. I expect him to force the pace, and for Wlad to have to knock him out, and I expect that he will go out on his shield.

Sorry have to comment on this!.
Can barely box!, he gave Chisora a boxing lesson (something Wlad failed to do and Dereck was proclaimed a hero and is now starting to show how good a boxer he really is. Before he has done the Macho thing but under Peter Fury he is a more compose fighter who is starting to show just what a great boxing brain he has.
Never In Shape! Since teaming up with Peter Fury he has been in the best shape of his life and better than most HW out there, believe me he is a very fit man who has been in shape over the past couple of years. Getting stronger fitter and faster.
Dodgy Chin!. Put down yes put never looked like being stopped. Put down because of balance, not in right position maybe but never ever hurt.
Absolutely no chance! At 26 Tyson is a young fit and altra confident HW, has the height & reach, can switch hit (not just for a couple of seconds but for an entire fight if he wants to!) so if he has no chance then all the other HW's might as well fight a few bums earn some money and buy a market stall. Wald is now at an age where he will get old very quickly in the ring one of these days and why not against a British HW!

It's all about opinion and every one is valid but I simply can not agree with this post. Tyson Fury has more chance than most against a good but aging champion, I honestly believe that Tyson will fulfil his destiny beat Wald and become Champion.

Of course it is HW boxing and one punch could put him on his arse and make me eat my words!

FFS, Vitali fought Chisora, not Wlad. Is it really so difficult?

Just watched wlad vs Jennings. What's relevant to fury's chances is, is wlad in decline ? I think so. He's nowhere near shot but he is in decline. Fury has a decent chance against this ageing wlad. Timing is everything in boxing and who knows maybe Tyson will be in the right place at the right time ?

mervt wrote:

SamWise72 wrote:Fury has absolutely no chance; he's not a big hitter, can barely box at all, has a dodgy chin, is never in shape, and isn't even going to have his customary size advantage. That said, he will at least try to win, and that makes it worth watching. I expect him to force the pace, and for Wlad to have to knock him out, and I expect that he will go out on his shield.

Sorry have to comment on this!.
Can barely box!, he gave Chisora a boxing lesson (something Wlad failed to do and Dereck was proclaimed a hero and is now starting to show how good a boxer he really is. Before he has done the Macho thing but under Peter Fury he is a more compose fighter who is starting to show just what a great boxing brain he has.
Never In Shape! Since teaming up with Peter Fury he has been in the best shape of his life and better than most HW out there, believe me he is a very fit man who has been in shape over the past couple of years. Getting stronger fitter and faster.
Dodgy Chin!. Put down yes put never looked like being stopped. Put down because of balance, not in right position maybe but never ever hurt.
Absolutely no chance! At 26 Tyson is a young fit and altra confident HW, has the height & reach, can switch hit (not just for a couple of seconds but for an entire fight if he wants to!) so if he has no chance then all the other HW's might as well fight a few bums earn some money and buy a market stall. Wald is now at an age where he will get old very quickly in the ring one of these days and why not against a British HW!

It's all about opinion and every one is valid but I simply can not agree with this post. Tyson Fury has more chance than most against a good but aging champion, I honestly believe that Tyson will fulfil his destiny beat Wald and become Champion.

Of course it is HW boxing and one punch could put him on his arse and make me eat my words!

Awful post, just awful.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

mervt wrote:

SamWise72 wrote:Fury has absolutely no chance; he's not a big hitter, can barely box at all, has a dodgy chin, is never in shape, and isn't even going to have his customary size advantage. That said, he will at least try to win, and that makes it worth watching. I expect him to force the pace, and for Wlad to have to knock him out, and I expect that he will go out on his shield.

Sorry have to comment on this!.
Can barely box!, he gave Chisora a boxing lesson (something Wlad failed to do and Dereck was proclaimed a hero and is now starting to show how good a boxer he really is. Before he has done the Macho thing but under Peter Fury he is a more compose fighter who is starting to show just what a great boxing brain he has.
Never In Shape! Since teaming up with Peter Fury he has been in the best shape of his life and better than most HW out there, believe me he is a very fit man who has been in shape over the past couple of years. Getting stronger fitter and faster.
Dodgy Chin!. Put down yes put never looked like being stopped. Put down because of balance, not in right position maybe but never ever hurt.
Absolutely no chance! At 26 Tyson is a young fit and altra confident HW, has the height & reach, can switch hit (not just for a couple of seconds but for an entire fight if he wants to!) so if he has no chance then all the other HW's might as well fight a few bums earn some money and buy a market stall. Wald is now at an age where he will get old very quickly in the ring one of these days and why not against a British HW!

It's all about opinion and every one is valid but I simply can not agree with this post. Tyson Fury has more chance than most against a good but aging champion, I honestly believe that Tyson will fulfil his destiny beat Wald and become Champion.

Of course it is HW boxing and one punch could put him on his arse and make me eat my words!

FFS, Vitali fought Chisora, not Wlad. Is it really so difficult?

You are of course quite correct, slip of the keyboard. And Vitali is supposed to be much the better of the two Brothers.

mervt wrote:You are of course quite correct, slip of the keyboard. And Vitali is supposed to be much the better of the two Brothers.

Wlad is much better than Vitali.

Horse wrote:

mervt wrote:You are of course quite correct, slip of the keyboard. And Vitali is supposed to be much the better of the two Brothers.

Wlad is much better than Vitali.

In many ways Wlad is better. But if they ever fought, my money would be on Vitali.

Boxerbeetle wrote:In many ways Wlad is better. But if they ever fought, my money would be on Vitali.

I'd pick Wlad.

Horse wrote:

mervt wrote:You are of course quite correct, slip of the keyboard. And Vitali is supposed to be much the better of the two Brothers.

Wlad is much better than Vitali.

You will have a logic for this statement, I am curious to hear it.

Obviously vitali is retIred and Wlad is the current champ.

So it needs to be comparing prime for prime.

Sanders brutalising Wlad and Vitali stopping him conclusively alone makes it hard for me to believe Wlad is 'much' better.

How would Wlad have fare vs Lewis. Not so good in comparison to Vitali.


Vitali had a lot of injuries but he was the more dangerous Klitschko - prime for prime - IMO

Maxsplit wrote:Sanders brutalising Wlad and Vitali stopping him conclusively alone makes it hard for me to believe Wlad is 'much' better.

Vitali lost to Byrd and Wlad beat him easily twice.

Maxsplit wrote:How would Wlad have fare vs Lewis. Not so good in comparison to Vitali.


Vitali had a lot of injuries but he was the more dangerous Klitschko - prime for prime - IMO

If Vitali was so good then why was his opposition so much inferior to Wlad's?

Did Wladimir underestimate all of his opponents that beat him? Quite possibly.

Wladimir would have been fully prepared for Lewis, no chance that he'd underestimate him. Wlad could have had an enjoyable war with Lewis as well. That fight should have happened.

Vitali was the better of the two and would've beaten Lewis had it not been for cuts.

Horse no arguing I am right and you are wrong.


Shush!!

Ian1973 wrote:Vitali was the better of the two and would've beaten Lewis had it not been for cuts.

Horse no arguing I am right and you are wrong.


Shush!!

Why did Vitali fight such chumps then?

Horse wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:Vitali was the better of the two and would've beaten Lewis had it not been for cuts.

Horse no arguing I am right and you are wrong.


Shush!!

Why did Vitali fight such chumps then?

To be fair I've seen / heard people say the same about Wladimir.

I remember when Tyson was knocking everybody out, people then said the same sort of thing - especially the Ali fans at the time.

Seems like the heavyweight division has always been full of chumps. DD