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Horse wrote: There's a good chance that a few of Joshua's opponents could have beaten him.

Na.

davie wrote:Ok. Joshua has done a slightly higher level of bugger all

I like that description

davie wrote:Ok. Joshua has done a slightly higher level of bugger all.

I'm one of the first to defend Joshuas rate of progression on here (because I don't think there's any need to rush him) but lets be honest, Joshua hasn't taken on anyone of note.
I'd back whyte to deal with Airich, Bahktov and Johnson.
Perhaps not as impressively as AJ did.

Whyte will be Joshuas best opponent, again he brings something new to the table in an unbeaten record, a bit of ambition and a rivalry.

Whyte's level of ambition will be judged on the night. Whyte hasn't shown much ambition with his matchmaking so far in his career.

Whyte's not earned the right to be considered a step up for Joshua. On paper he isn't a step up, he's actually a step down.

davie wrote:

Horse wrote: There's a good chance that a few of Joshua's opponents could have beaten him.

Na.

You're playing a dangerous game disagreeing with this Horse bloke, he's giving Keithmoonhangover HELL on the last page for doing the same.

Fuzzy Warbles wrote: he's giving Keithmoonhangover HELL on the last page for doing the same.

It's a few words on a computer screen. Trust me mate, that's not hell.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Fuzzy Warbles wrote: he's giving Keithmoonhangover HELL on the last page for doing the same.

It's a few words on a computer screen. Trust me mate, that's not hell.

We all know you're sitting at your laptop sobbing like a little girl.

Horse wrote: Whyte's not earned the right to be considered a step up for Joshua. On paper he isn't a step up, he's actually a step down.

Wrong

davie wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Fuzzy Warbles wrote: he's giving Keithmoonhangover HELL on the last page for doing the same.

It's a few words on a computer screen. Trust me mate, that's not hell.

We all know you're sitting at your laptop sobbing like a little girl.

I'm sobbing, but only because I can't find any decent midget porn to watch. Wine and tramadol to cushion the blow.

keithmoonhangover wrote:It's a few words on a computer screen. Trust me mate, that's not hell.

I was being facetious

Fuzzy Warbles wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:It's a few words on a computer screen. Trust me mate, that's not hell.

I was being facetious

Nice one

davie wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:It's a few words on a computer screen. Trust me mate, that's not hell.

We all know you're sitting at your laptop sobbing like a little girl.

I know I would be if an anthropomorphic HORSE was abusing me in such a fashion

davie wrote:Wrong

No, Whyte is a step down.

Johnson, Bakhtov & Sprott are all higher ranked by BoxRec and all have better records than Whyte.

Simply being unbeaten doesn't mean that a fighter is any good.

Fuzzy Warbles wrote:

davie wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:It's a few words on a computer screen. Trust me mate, that's not hell.

We all know you're sitting at your laptop sobbing like a little girl.

I know I would be if an anthropomorphic HORSE was abusing me in such a fashion

Are you being facetious again?

Horse wrote:

davie wrote:Wrong

No, Whyte is a step down.

Johnson, Bakhtov & Sprott are all higher ranked by BoxRec and all have better records than Whyte.

Simply being unbeaten doesn't mean that a fighter is any good.

No, it doesn't but i still fancy Whyte to beat any of those guys at the point AJ faced th.

Those names may be higher ranked and have faced higher level of opposition in their careers but at the point they faced Joshua they knew they were going in there as cannon fodder.
Whyte will fancy the job and believe he can beat a man he has a win against.

davie wrote:Are you being facetious again?

Yes ... sorry

Whyte looks better then his shitty record so far but the question is how much better. I hope Eddie puts him with someone at least half alive prior to Joshua fight so that we get some idea about his level.

Whilst Whyte has faced no one of note (although he did KO that Brazilian guy a lot more efficiently and effectively than the highly touted Joseph Parker did 6 months previously) Joshua has faced some dreadful opponents and ones that were once a challenge but are on losing streaks and turn up with no ambition.

I envisage this being both fighters toughest to date.

Boxing is massively reliant on psychology and confidence and for all AJs immaculate preparation and professional team behind him, it will be the first fight he is entering with even the tiniest element of doubt. Whyte cleaned his clock through headgear a good few times when they fought and dropped him twice. So he'll know he could be dropped in this fight.

For what its worth I think it will be Joshua who prevails, but this should be a barn burner for as long as it lasts. Whtye empirically knows he has the power to hurt Joshua. Up until now AJ hasn't had to deal with that fact going into a fight.

Tarkus wrote:Whyte looks better then his shitty record so far but the question is how much better. I hope Eddie puts him with someone at least half alive prior to Joshua fight so that we get some idea about his level.

He's fighting Irineu Beato Costa Junior

ProMayhem wrote:He's fighting Irineu Beato Costa Junior

That's not bad actually, and he's coming here on a win.

Win over someone with 1/12 record. And four losses before that.

Horse wrote:Johnson, Bakhtov & Sprott are all higher ranked by BoxRec and all have better records than Whyte.

This line of argument comes up a lot, and in reality it's probably accurate, but the former three are known quantities, while the latter isn't.

We've always seen more from the proven guys, but if we don't fancy them to bring ambition or have much of a chance of winning, I think it's more interesting to match against relative unknowns of good repute. Until some belts are on the table, like.

At least Whyte will very likely be coming to win, unlike A lot of Joshua's recent foes like Johnson etc, he seems a confident type and the way he dropped Joshua a few years back means he can punch & will probably fancy he can repeat the trick.
He'll rightly be a massive underdog but he's probably going to go for it so could be exciting while it lasts ...

keithmoonhangover wrote: It's a few words on a computer screen. Trust me mate, that's not hell.

Well, if big talk on an internet forum means nothing, then what are we all doing with our life?

Grilling Machine wrote:

Horse wrote:Johnson, Bakhtov & Sprott are all higher ranked by BoxRec and all have better records than Whyte.

This line of argument comes up a lot, and in reality it's probably accurate, but the former three are known quantities, while the latter isn't.

We've always seen more from the proven guys, but if we don't fancy them to bring ambition or have much of a chance of winning, I think it's more interesting to match against relative unknowns of good repute. Until some belts are on the table, like.

You also have to take into account where these guys are in their respective careers and how much they had left.
Take Johnson, he was fringe world level but by the time Joshua fought him he was little more than a high level journey man, a punch bag with a few top names on his CV who was picked for his durability (and even that he could not provide on fight night)

ILikeBeer wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote: It's a few words on a computer screen. Trust me mate, that's not hell.

Well, if big talk on an internet forum means nothing, then what are we all doing with our life?