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Posted: **30 Nov 2017, 21:08**

Yeah.... Like he boxed Iran Barkley's ears off...right??? ... Most of the time Tommy was picking his ass of the canvas or getting counted out.

Don't tell me Hearns couldn't see Iran Barkley's punches coming -- but would see Floyd's which are 20 times as deceptive, quick, and slick.

Posted: **30 Nov 2017, 21:12**

You don't understand the sport. I wouldn't have the patience to try and teach it to you.barkley has nothing to do with this. Floyd isn't a giant middleweight you silly little boy.

Posted: **01 Dec 2017, 02:03**

Foolish ass... You don't know crap about the game.. Giant Middleweight??? WTF?

Hagler was no giant Middleweight – and Barkley got his ass beaten royally by tougher and more powerful Middleweights.. Those 2 boys ran the weak Hearns over like he was a Featherweight.. SRL finished off the Welterweight version of Hearns like he was taking out a Lightweight.

The referee saved the flimsy Hearns from destruction by Leonard.. I felt sorry for the skinny thing and was glad the ref intervened.

Canelo and De La Hoya both entered the ring well above 160 for their battles with Mayweather.. They both won World Titles at Middleweight. Hearns lacked the chin and physical toughness they had... Floyd took their best shots without even blinking... He grinned at their weak efforts.

Posted: **01 Dec 2017, 14:47**

They asked Oscar who would win between him and hearns. "It wouldn't be me".

Posted: **01 Dec 2017, 14:51**

Floyd took Canelo and DLH's best shots

Priceless, considering neither could hit him with a bag full of Sand.

Posted: **01 Dec 2017, 15:58**

The difference is natural size between Barkley and FMM.

Barkley was 6'1" (74" reach) and FMM was 5'8" (72" reach).

FMM doesn't have the frame to be a middleweight, the heaviest he ever weighed in his career was 151lb whereas the lightest Barkley ever managed was 156lb, he then ended up fighting as a HW

Posted: **01 Dec 2017, 16:40**

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 14:51 Floyd took Canelo and DLH's best shots

Priceless, considering neither could hit him with a bag full of Sand.

I don't recall Canelo landing a single notable punch in his fight with Floyd.

Posted: **01 Dec 2017, 16:41**

Kalan wrote: ↑30 Nov 2017, 21:08 Yeah.... Like he boxed Iran Barkley's ears off...right??? ... Most of the time Tommy was picking his ass of the canvas or getting counted out.

Don't tell me Hearns couldn't see Iran Barkley's punches coming -- but would see Floyd's which are 20 times as deceptive, quick, and slick.

Goddamn you're powerful stupid

Posted: **01 Dec 2017, 21:32**

You're talking yourself again Gilgamesh... Next stop is the nuthouse for you A-hole.

Everyone knows Barkley got beaten many times and Floyd never did.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 13:42**

golden oldie wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 09:08 If a 39 year old Mosley can have him all over the place inside 4 minutes

Mosley wasn't 39 you ignorant, lying, exaggerating piece of shitt..

That’s the best you can DO? Floyd getting wobbled and coming back to win very easily over Shane Mosley – one History’s greatest 3-Division World Champions??? The next round Mayweather had Mosley retreating all over the ring behind a sustained, high-powered assault that hurt Shane.. That backed Mosley off for good.. How does that compare to Tommy getting flattened by the crude, slow punching, and inept Iran Barkley??? Barkley LOST his next 3 fights after blasting Tommy Hearns unconscious – going down to his 6th defeat (6 losses) in 32 fights.

Barkley finally got back into the winning column again when he fought perennial punching bag Juan Hernandez, 4-13... Barkley beat the long shot by an extremely unpopular decision.. Hernandez went down to his 10th straight loss – but he floored Barkley and nearly knocked him out. The referee constantly intervened to help Barkley survive – and when the decision was announced the crowd wouldn’t let up booing.. It was a rotten decision.. Barkley was lucky to come out alive against a 5th rater who never scored a KO in his ENTIRE CAREER!!!

That’s right!! … Juan Hernandez’s KO ratio was a big fat 0% but he floored Iran Barkley hard and nearly knocked him out.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 13:48**

Kalan wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 13:42
Mosley wasn't 39 you ignorant, lying, exaggerating piece of shitt..

That’s the best you can DO? Floyd getting wobbled and coming back to win very easily over Shane Mosley – one History’s greatest 3-Division World Champions??? The next round Mayweather had Mosley retreating all over the ring behind a sustained, high-powered assault that hurt Shane.. That backed Mosley off for good.. How does that compare to Tommy getting flattened by the crude, slow punching, and inept Iran Barkley??? Barkley LOST his next 3 fights after blasting Tommy Hearns unconscious – going down to his 6th defeat (6 losses) in 32 fights.

Barkley finally got back into the winning column again when he fought perennial punching bag Juan Hernandez, 4-13... Barkley beat the long shot by an extremely unpopular decision.. Hernandez went down to his 10th straight loss – but he floored Barkley and nearly knocked him out. The referee constantly intervened to help Barkley survive – and when the decision was announced the crowd wouldn’t let up booing.. It was a rotten decision.. Barkley was lucky to come out alive against a 5th rater who never scored a KO in his ENTIRE CAREER!!!

That’s right!! … Juan Hernandez’s KO ratio was a big fat 0% but he floored Iran Barkley hard and nearly knocked him out of there.

Let me explain this so you even you can understand it Kalan.

Tommy Hearns was tall and athletic (I know you love that)

He was a natural 147 pounder. Floyd began his career at 130 pounds.

Frankly, he's too damn big for Floyd. I don't doubt that Floyd could hang with him, and have his moments, but Tommy's reach, power, jab, bodywork, and significant size advantage (5 inches in height, and significant reach advantages as well).

Tommy ain't no Diego Corrales. He knew how to use his height, and he was fast and efficient with his jab and power punches. Floyd doesn't have the punching power to hurt Tommy Hearns. Tommy Hearns has the punching power to hurt every Welterweight that ever lived.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 13:55**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 13:48
Kalan wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 13:42
Mosley wasn't 39 you ignorant, lying, exaggerating piece of shitt..

That’s the best you can DO? Floyd getting wobbled and coming back to win very easily over Shane Mosley – one History’s greatest 3-Division World Champions??? The next round Mayweather had Mosley retreating all over the ring behind a sustained, high-powered assault that hurt Shane.. That backed Mosley off for good.. How does that compare to Tommy getting flattened by the crude, slow punching, and inept Iran Barkley??? Barkley LOST his next 3 fights after blasting Tommy Hearns unconscious – going down to his 6th defeat (6 losses) in 32 fights.

Barkley finally got back into the winning column again when he fought perennial punching bag Juan Hernandez, 4-13... Barkley beat the long shot by an extremely unpopular decision.. Hernandez went down to his 10th straight loss – but he floored Barkley and nearly knocked him out. The referee constantly intervened to help Barkley survive – and when the decision was announced the crowd wouldn’t let up booing.. It was a rotten decision.. Barkley was lucky to come out alive against a 5th rater who never scored a KO in his ENTIRE CAREER!!!

That’s right!! … Juan Hernandez’s KO ratio was a big fat 0% but he floored Iran Barkley hard and nearly knocked him out of there.
Let me explain this so you even you can understand it Kalan.

Tommy Hearns was tall and athletic (I know you love that)

He was a natural 147 pounder. Floyd began his career at 130 pounds.

Frankly, he's too damn big for Floyd. I don't doubt that Floyd could hang with him, and have his moments, but Tommy's reach, power, jab, bodywork, and significant size advantage (5 inches in height, and significant reach advantages as well).

Tommy ain't no Diego Corrales. He knew how to use his height, and he was fast and efficient with his jab and power punches. Floyd doesn't have the punching power to hurt Tommy Hearns. Tommy Hearns has the punching power to hurt every Welterweight that ever lived.

Let me explain something to YOU Gilgamesh... Not that you'll understand it because you'd have to shed your bias a small fraction... It DOESN'T MATTER HOW tall and long Hearns was when an inept swinger like Barkley can knock the fukking shitt out of him... READ my post to find out how Barkley fared in his NEXT FOUR (4) fights after knocking Tommy Hearns unconscious... THEN comment, if that isn't beyond you.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 14:02**

I'm well aware of the career of Iran Barkley.

Now let me hit you with another counterpoint.

I'll grant that Barkley is nowhere near the Boxing talent that Mayweather was. That's obvious.

But Barkley was a VERY big MIDDLEWEIGHT. 160 pounds. 6'1. He was a big powerful guy. In the first fight with Hearns he was taking as ass kicking for 2 and a half rounds before he landed a solid shot that caught Hearns and took him out.

Mayweather could and would land more punches on Tommy than Barkley did, but he wouldn't have the power that Barkley had when he landed because he's not that big of a man.

Mayweather's only 5'8 and began his fighting career at 130 pounds. He was never a particularly big Welterweight, and looked outright small at 154. Tommy Hearns is too damn big for him, even IF Mayweather could hurt Tommy if he landed say 50 to 100 punches on him, there's no way he'd land that many before Tommy landed the 1 or 2 that would be all he needed to end the fight.

Tommy's one of the all time punchers in the sport, and he's a great boxer too. Big punchers could take advantage of his chin, and get KO's over him. Floyd is not a big puncher nor a big man. While a great boxer, he'd just never be able to hurt Tommy before Tommy could hurt him. There's just no way.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 14:10**

I think Tommy would go into the fight to put on a boxing clinic.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 14:11**

Kalan wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 13:42
golden oldie wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 09:08 If a 39 year old Mosley can have him all over the place inside 4 minutes
Mosley wasn't 39 you ignorant, lying, exaggerating piece of shitt..

That’s the best you can DO? Floyd getting wobbled and coming back to win very easily over Shane Mosley – one History’s greatest 3-Division World Champions??? The next round Mayweather had Mosley retreating all over the ring behind a sustained, high-powered assault that hurt Shane.. That backed Mosley off for good.. How does that compare to Tommy getting flattened by the crude, slow punching, and inept Iran Barkley??? Barkley LOST his next 3 fights after blasting Tommy Hearns unconscious – going down to his 6th defeat (6 losses) in 32 fights.

Barkley finally got back into the winning column again when he fought perennial punching bag Juan Hernandez, 4-13... Barkley beat the long shot by an extremely unpopular decision.. Hernandez went down to his 10th straight loss – but he floored Barkley and nearly knocked him out. The referee constantly intervened to help Barkley survive – and when the decision was announced the crowd wouldn’t let up booing.. It was a rotten decision.. Barkley was lucky to come out alive against a 5th rater who never scored a KO in his ENTIRE CAREER!!!

That’s right!! … Juan Hernandez’s KO ratio was a big fat 0% but he floored Iran Barkley hard and nearly knocked him out.

Mosley was born in 1971, Mayweather fought Mosley in 2010.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 15:31**

When Mosley was 38 and coming off his most decisive victory... Floyd fought his toughest opponent at age 38 and was never beaten.

Hearns was knocked out 3 times in his 20's -- and knocked out by inept Iran Barkley who fared very poorly in his NEXT 4 FIGHTS!!!

Including his fight with perennial punching bag Juan Hernandez, 4-13, who smashed Barkley to the canvas and nearly knocked him out.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 15:39**

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 14:10 I think Tommy would go into the fight to put on a boxing clinic

Why not? ... When he was in his 20's he put on clinics on how to get hit with a knockout punch -- including by Iran Barkley.

Barkley also did clinics on getting hit... He was floored hard and barely escaped getting KO'd by Juan Hernandez, 4-13, with NO knockouts.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 16:06**

Kalan wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 15:39
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 14:10 I think Tommy would go into the fight to put on a boxing clinic
Why not? ... When he was in his 20's he put on clinics on how to get hit with a knockout punch -- including by Iran Barkley.

Barkley also did clinics on getting hit... He was floored hard and barely escaped getting KO'd by Juan Hernandez, 4-13, with NO knockouts.

Barkley ain't got a damn thing to do with Hearns vs Mayweather. Mayweather ain't the size of Barkley, and don't hit like Barkley.

Besides Hearns vs Mayweather would be between a younger, better version of Tommy than ever faced Barkley to begin with so it's completely irrelevant to bring him up.

Tommy was a beast at Welterweight. The only one to defeat him was Leonard, and Leonard had to go through hell to do it. The attack mode he went into to finish Tommy in that fight is not anything we've ever seen out of Floyd. If he attempted to go on the offensive like that against Tommy he'd be taking a nap shortly thereafter.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 16:24**

Kalan wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 15:31 When Mosley was 38 and coming off his most decisive victory... Floyd fought his toughest opponent at age 38 and was never beaten.

Hearns was knocked out 3 times in his 20's -- and knocked out by inept Iran Barkley who fared very poorly in his NEXT 4 FIGHTS!!!

Including his fight with perennial punching bag Juan Hernandez, 4-13, who smashed Barkley to the canvas and nearly knocked him out.

Mosley was closer to 39 than 38 though. So it's not ridiculous to say Mosley was 39.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 16:46**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 16:06
Kalan wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 15:39
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 14:10 I think Tommy would go into the fight to put on a boxing clinic
Why not? ... When he was in his 20's he put on clinics on how to get hit with a knockout punch -- including by Iran Barkley.

Barkley also did clinics on getting hit... He was floored hard and barely escaped getting KO'd by Juan Hernandez, 4-13, with NO knockouts.
Barkley ain't got a damn thing to do with Hearns vs Mayweather. Mayweather ain't the size of Barkley, and don't hit like Barkley.

Besides Hearns vs Mayweather would be between a younger, better version of Tommy than ever faced Barkley to begin with so it's completely irrelevant to bring him up.

Tommy was a beast at Welterweight. The only one to defeat him was Leonard, and Leonard had to go through hell to do it. The attack mode he went into to finish Tommy in that fight is not anything we've ever seen out of Floyd. If he attempted to go on the offensive like that against Tommy he'd be taking a nap shortly thereafter

Iran Barkley has everything to do with it... It shows how hittable Hearns was... Leonard, Hagler and Barkley got TH with loaded swings.

Duran had 60-something fights from 119 to 135, but was able to finesse Barkley at age 37 when he was fat and pudgy.. The 4-11 Juan Hernandez would have given Barkley his 4th straight loss after knocking out Hearns -- if Boxing weren't so corrupt.. Barkley couldn't get a KO punch on good boxers like Nunn, Kalambay, Toney, Benn, etc. who all beat him -- but somehow Barkley hit Hearns squarely on the chin and dumped him several times in their 2 fights.. Tommy was wide open.. Floyd knocked out most of his opponents and fought guys who were physically much bigger than him with longer reaches who couldn't get good punches on Floyd.

Floyd beat 2 Middleweight champions who would have made bird seed out of the inept Iran Barkley... Mayweather would finesse the hittable Hearns with his masterful all-around game -- and thump the kid royally until he was knocked out or badly beaten.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 16:49**

At welterweight I see Hearns winning, too big and strong. FMM wasn't a big guy, he pretty much weighed the same on fight night as he did at the weigh in.

FMM only had 12 fights at welterweight and only stopped 3, Hatton (who was a natural light welterweight), Mitchell (who was stopped in all his defeats and not a natural welterweight) and Ortiz (we all know how that one happened), his power wouldn't have troubled Hearns.

FMM never fought a tall welterweight either, they all ranged between 5'5" and 5'9", only Mosley, Ortiz, Guerrero were a tad taller than the 5'8" FMM. Hearns was a beast at welterweight and his loss to Barkley at middleweight is irrelevant as Mayweather never had that kinda power and Barkley naturally the much bigger guy, hence him fighting at HW and knocking HWs out in his later years.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 16:56**

p4p1 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 16:24 Mosley was closer to 39 than 38 though. So it's not ridiculous to say Mosley was 39

It is too... It's not accurate is it??? ... Otherwise you could go out drinking or go and vote before you're 18 years old.

"Wait!! You don't understand judge...I'll be 18 in 3 months." .... "Good...then wait until you're 18 before you say you're 18."

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 17:03**

Controversial wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 16:49 FMM only had 12 fights at welterweight and only stopped 3, Hatton (who was a natural light welterweight), Mitchell (who was stopped in all his defeats and not a natural welterweight) and Ortiz (we all know how that one happened), his power wouldn't have troubled Hearns

It would have... Because Tommy was so hittable like Ricky Hatton (who was 43-0 and had never been knocked out before) and Floyd would be laying one shot after another... He wouldn't go in 3 rounds... But 9 or 10 rounds of constant pounding on a weak chin and Hearns is gone.

You see...Hearns got hit by Barkley and dropped 3 times in 2 fights...and knocked out and beaten on points as well... And Barkley couldn't do that do good defenders like Kalambay, Nunn, Sims, Toney and other good boxers and defenders who he fought.

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 17:04**

Kalan wrote: ↑02 Dec 2017, 16:46
Iran Barkley has everything to do with it... It shows how hittable Hearns was... Leonard, Hagler and Barkley got TH with loaded swings.

Duran had 60-something fights from 119 to 135, but was able to finesse Barkley at age 37 when he was fat and pudgy.. The 4-11 Juan Hernandez would have given Barkley his 4th straight loss after knocking out Hearns -- if Boxing weren't so corrupt.. Barkley couldn't get a KO punch on good boxers like Nunn, Kalambay, Toney, Benn, etc. who all beat him -- but somehow Barkley hit Hearns squarely on the chin and dumped him several times in their 2 fights.. Tommy was wide open.. Floyd knocked out most of his opponents and fought guys who were physically much bigger than him with longer reaches who couldn't get good punches on Floyd.

Floyd beat 2 Middleweight champions who would have made bird seed out of the inept Iran Barkley... Mayweather would finesse the hittable Hearns with his masterful all-around game -- and thump the kid royally until he was knocked out or badly beaten.

Tommy blitzed Roberto Duran in 2 rounds. We're talking Prime Tommy here. Welterweight Tommy. He's way too much for Floyd.

Oh and by the way. Floyd only has 3 KO wins at Welterweight or heavier. He went the distance in 80% of his fights from 147 on up. The KO's were over Ricky Hatton, Victor Ortiz and Conor McGregor. Tommy Hearns is so far beyond those guys it ain't even funny.

You seem to complete ignore all of Tommy's strengths as a fighter, and only zero in on his flaws.

I guess the Tall and Athletic thing only fits when you want it to huh?

Posted: **02 Dec 2017, 17:22**

Being tall and athletic does give you an advantage... It didn't help Tommy that he was taller and rangier than Leonard, Hagler, and Barkley.. Barkley was fairly tall but Hearns had much longer arms... But that didn't help him.

You'll agree that you have to be able to use those assets... Hearns did well with the more hittable and punchable Wilfred Benitez -- who was knocked out several times in his career.. They both scored knock downs, but Hearns couldn't stop the hittable Benitez at 154, a much better weight for Tommy. After all Leonard stopped Benitez earlier -- why couldn't Hearns do it??? ... What makes you think he could do the much more elusive, skilled, and smarter Mayweather if he couldn't get Benitez out??? ... Benitez was finished early he was getting beat to trash so much.

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