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Who compose the fistful of guys that Wlad should fight but hasn't?

Cedric wrote:If Mayweather was serious about fighting Mayfield or Berto, than this makes sense. But I don't believe he was.

It looks like it will be Berto, unless they hit a snag in negotiations. Its a great thing for the fans. Lots of folks can't afford PPV. Berto isn't a popular choice, but I personally like it better than the Khan option. Khan crying like a baby when it is officially announced will be PPV worthy in itself.

Badhusker wrote:

Cedric wrote:If Mayweather was serious about fighting Mayfield or Berto, than this makes sense. But I don't believe he was.

It looks like it will be Berto, unless they hit a snag in negotiations. Its a great thing for the fans. Lots of folks can't afford PPV. Berto isn't a popular choice, but I personally like it better than the Khan option. Khan crying like a baby when it is officially announced will be PPV worthy in itself.

I would buy the ppv of Khan crying over not getting the fight.
Man I might even spring for a dvd copy so I can play it over and over

koolkc107 wrote:Backtracked from what? I said Wlad has fought nothing but stiffs the last decade.

True.

I said there are a fistful of guys out there he really should fight but isn't.

Also true.

And some of them he should have got to a long time ago.

He is fighting Tyson Fury next.

Tyson Fury.

Tyson "I nearly got KTFO by a cruiserweight and had to foul said cruiser with my forearms to get a KO" Fury.

So spare me on the "how great Wlad is" nonsense.

There is a double standard. Too many of the same folks who are fine with Wladimir's antics and Pac's farces are rushing to yell foul about this fight.

A fight involving an opponent who, in spite of all his faults, is actually a more credible opponent than half the guys Wlad and Pac have faced their last 4 or 5 fights...and Floyd is doing it FREE!

That is the hypocrisy I speak of.

You backtracked on the mythical double standard of Rios/Algieri being lauded by fans.

Now who are the fistful Wlad should fight but isn't? What contenders has he missed or dodged?

Sounds like you lost some money on Fury/Cunningham Tyson Fury is a much better defense of a title than Andre "I just got stopped by Soto Karass" Berto.

Time to move on brut, your act is old and stale.

If you call yourself TBE you should only be fighting the best opponent available at the time, that's far from berto, Loma and rigo have the right idea, like or hate them it seems they're willing to back themselves

punchoutsb wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Backtracked from what? I said Wlad has fought nothing but stiffs the last decade.

True.

I said there are a fistful of guys out there he really should fight but isn't.

Also true.

And some of them he should have got to a long time ago.

He is fighting Tyson Fury next.

Tyson Fury.

Tyson "I nearly got KTFO by a cruiserweight and had to foul said cruiser with my forearms to get a KO" Fury.

So spare me on the "how great Wlad is" nonsense.

There is a double standard. Too many of the same folks who are fine with Wladimir's antics and Pac's farces are rushing to yell foul about this fight.

A fight involving an opponent who, in spite of all his faults, is actually a more credible opponent than half the guys Wlad and Pac have faced their last 4 or 5 fights...and Floyd is doing it FREE!

That is the hypocrisy I speak of.

You backtracked on the mythical double standard of Rios/Algieri being lauded by fans.

Now who are the fistful Wlad should fight but isn't? What contenders has he missed or dodged?

Sounds like you lost some money on Fury/Cunningham Tyson Fury is a much better defense of a title than Andre "I just got stopped by Soto Karass" Berto.

Time to move on brut, your act is old and stale.

I did no such thing.

My original statement was that most of Pac's fanboys were fine with him fighting Rios and Algieri.

I stand by that.

But I do allow that there were some here who like boxing first who were as outraged as they should have been.

Berto just beat Josecito Lopez. That is as legit as anything Fury has ever done and he didn't have to foul to get his KO like Fury did Cunningham.

And name one clear cut, none controversial win by Rios or Algieri that is better than said KO by Berto. I'll wait.

As to Wlad, I am not even going to bother. If you follow the sport like you say you do then you can name the 4 or 5 easily.

Klitschko has avoided no-one and it's obvious you can't name anyone he has.

Haye, Povetkin, and fury all best up and comers that Wlad has faced.

Don't say Wilder as he'd not exactly jumping at the Povetkin fight is he.

Come on kc, please name the fistful of fighters Wlad should fight but hasn't.

When you don't give names it makes it seem like even you realize that you're full of shitt.

koolkc107 wrote:I did no such thing.

My original statement was that most of Pac's fanboys were fine with him fighting Rios and Algieri.

I stand by that.

But I do allow that there were some here who like boxing first who were as outraged as they should have been.

Berto just beat Josecito Lopez. That is as legit as anything Fury has ever done and he didn't have to foul to get his KO like Fury did Cunningham.

And name one clear cut, none controversial win by Rios or Algieri that is better than said KO by Berto. I'll wait.

As to Wlad, I am not even going to bother. If you follow the sport like you say you do then you can name the 4 or 5 easily.

Talk about going out with a whimper. Time for you to make yet another fake account I guess.

Well at least I don't have to fork over $100 this time, free is my favourite word.

koolkc107 wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Backtracked from what? I said Wlad has fought nothing but stiffs the last decade.

True.

I said there are a fistful of guys out there he really should fight but isn't.

Also true.

And some of them he should have got to a long time ago.

He is fighting Tyson Fury next.

Tyson Fury.

Tyson "I nearly got KTFO by a cruiserweight and had to foul said cruiser with my forearms to get a KO" Fury.

So spare me on the "how great Wlad is" nonsense.

There is a double standard. Too many of the same folks who are fine with Wladimir's antics and Pac's farces are rushing to yell foul about this fight.

A fight involving an opponent who, in spite of all his faults, is actually a more credible opponent than half the guys Wlad and Pac have faced their last 4 or 5 fights...and Floyd is doing it FREE!

That is the hypocrisy I speak of.

You backtracked on the mythical double standard of Rios/Algieri being lauded by fans.

Now who are the fistful Wlad should fight but isn't? What contenders has he missed or dodged?

Sounds like you lost some money on Fury/Cunningham Tyson Fury is a much better defense of a title than Andre "I just got stopped by Soto Karass" Berto.

Time to move on brut, your act is old and stale.

I did no such thing.

My original statement was that most of Pac's fanboys were fine with him fighting Rios and Algieri.

I stand by that.

But I do allow that there were some here who like boxing first who were as outraged as they should have been.

Berto just beat Josecito Lopez. That is as legit as anything Fury has ever done and he didn't have to foul to get his KO like Fury did Cunningham.

And name one clear cut, none controversial win by Rios or Algieri that is better than said KO by Berto. I'll wait.

As to Wlad, I am not even going to bother. If you follow the sport like you say you do then you can name the 4 or 5 easily.

If it's so easy, name them then.

If this is for real then I'm ok with it. Floyd fighting a dude like Berto on CBS on a Tuesday as a farewell fight for his fans.

If this was a Showtime or PPV I'd be pissed.

There's no way to make a Khan,Thurman fight and afford to put it on CBS on a Tuesday. Floyd is a douche but he's earned a gimme as a farewell at the age of 38.

hurricanemitch14 wrote:If this is for real then I'm ok with it. Floyd fighting a dude like Berto on CBS on a Tuesday as a farewell fight for his fans.

If this was a Showtime or PPV I'd be pissed.

There's no way to make a Khan,Thurman fight and afford to put it on CBS on a Tuesday. Floyd is a douche but he's earned a gimme as a farewell at the age of 38.

I'm just always happy to have a free fight!!

I don't think any *really* believes that this is Floyd's last fight. After the fact all his jock surfers who are "allowing" him this gimme since it's his last fight will change their stories to accommodate.

Impractical Poster wrote:KBB, what do you think about this match-up? Other than it being free.

No worse than when Pac fought Algieri.

That's a comparison, should this fight happen or not

KBB wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:KBB, what do you think about this match-up? Other than it being free.

No worse than when Pac fought Algieri.

What's your prediction?

KBB wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:KBB, what do you think about this match-up? Other than it being free.

No worse than when Pac fought Algieri.

Given the circumstances, it's quite a bit worse. Berto stands no chance at all and recently got smoked by Karass and Guerrero. At least Chris was undefeated when Manny faced him. This is possibly Floyd's last bout. And he claims he is the best ever. Piss poor move. It's hard to believe even his loyalest supporters supporting this.

Impractical Poster wrote:

KBB wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:KBB, what do you think about this match-up? Other than it being free.

No worse than when Pac fought Algieri.

Given the circumstances, it's quite a bit worse. Berto stands no chance at all and recently got smoked by Karass and Guerrero. At least Chris was undefeated when Manny faced him. This is possibly Floyd's last bout. And he claims he is the best ever. Piss poor move. It's hard to believe even his loyalest supporters supporting this.

Quite a bit worse? Imagine the backlash Floyd would have got if he fought Rios and Algieri. Neither are even true 147 pounders. Algieri was unbeaten, yes, but only had 20 fights total in his lifetime.

Berto is a career welter, champion for 2 years, the number 1 WBA contender (I think most of the rankings are BS), but lost to Guerrero and Karass. You did however fail to mention his re-dedication and 2 impressive wins after the losses. His latest was a KO of Joseito Lopez, which in my mind is as good as Rios or Algieri. Berto took him out about the same way Canelo and Maidana did. None of the 3 are elite competition. No, Berto is not elite either, but like I said in another post, this fight is not about the biggest challenges or legacies. Its about giving the fans an entertaining fight for free. If Floyd wanted the biggest PPV draw, he wouldn't be fighting Berto, you can bank on that. Floyd says he is the best ever, yes, but we all know this may be his last fight and he is a lot closer to 40 than 35. Maybe Berto KO's Floyd, then you can rejoice.

tiny_acres wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

Cedric wrote:If Mayweather was serious about fighting Mayfield or Berto, than this makes sense. But I don't believe he was.

It looks like it will be Berto, unless they hit a snag in negotiations. Its a great thing for the fans. Lots of folks can't afford PPV. Berto isn't a popular choice, but I personally like it better than the Khan option. Khan crying like a baby when it is officially announced will be PPV worthy in itself.

I would buy the ppv of Khan crying over not getting the fight.
Man I might even spring for a dvd copy so I can play it over and over

Since I don't know how to post pictures or GIF's I will give a link that has a pretty funny one about Khan. Scroll down to the 3rd comment. (GIF) "Floyd!, I got these cheeseburgers, Floyd! http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/7/15/89 ... bs-sept-12

His two impressive wins since the loss to Karass? Chambers isn't even in BoxRec's top 220, hadn't fought in over a year, and in that fight was stopped in four rounds by Eddie Gomez. Quiet a stretch to call Berto's win over him impressive.

As for Lopez, he's lost to every top 10 fighter he's faced barring Ortiz, and shortly before facing Berto he was dropped by faded Mike Arnaoutis and generally had quite a tough time. Considering Berto is 3-3 in his last 6, has only 2 wins in the last 4 years, and was stopped 3 fights ago by Karass, I don't think wins over Chambers and Lopez should put him near a Mayweather fight, regardless of who Pacquiao fought.

If he wants to give back to the fans, fight a legit contender and put it on tv for free, the fans made him very rich, give the fans something decent back for repayment

punchoutsb wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:I did no such thing.

My original statement was that most of Pac's fanboys were fine with him fighting Rios and Algieri.

I stand by that.

But I do allow that there were some here who like boxing first who were as outraged as they should have been.

Berto just beat Josecito Lopez. That is as legit as anything Fury has ever done and he didn't have to foul to get his KO like Fury did Cunningham.

And name one clear cut, none controversial win by Rios or Algieri that is better than said KO by Berto. I'll wait.

As to Wlad, I am not even going to bother. If you follow the sport like you say you do then you can name the 4 or 5 easily.

Talk about going out with a whimper. Time for you to make yet another fake account I guess.

Dude please keep my name out of your mouth, I've told you time and time again that I have 1 other account that I used to use. The problem with idiotic retards such as yourself is a very low level of reading comprehension.

Kool and I are two different individuals who just so happens to not buy into your I Hate Floyd campaign and because we agree your dumb ass think we are one in the same of which we're not.

I could just as well label you Bnovelist because you act and post the same garbage he does.

berto's losses to karass, guerrero, and ortiz were all very entertaining fights.
i keep hearing on here how berto was smoked and blown out and bla bla.
berto is not nearly the bum he is being painted to be, here. welter is a stacked
division and for that reason berto would be just outside my top 10 (floyd, pac,
bradley, marquez, thurman, brook, porter, maidana, guerrero, khan), but outside
that top 10 it wouldn't be easy to favor anyone over berto and lots of berto
matchups against those next 10 would be very interesting fights. nobody was happy
about pac fighting algieri but CA was undefeated with a title and fit the bill for a macao
gambler audience. berto does have a better resume than algieri did, but reality
is that most casual observers won't recognize that. in boxing if you lose then you're
considered a bum by lots of fans and at least half of the boxrec posters, no
matter how valiantly you performed in the loss, and you won't get the benefit of
the doubt that an undefeated title holder gets. i like berto, but i still doubt he is
going to be floyd's opponent and i doubt this is floyd's last fight. i would never have
imagined floyd picking someone outside the top 10. scratch off bradley, marquez,
guerrero, maidana, pac, and you still have thurman, brook, porter, and khan. i would
even thow garcia in the mix. i have to think it's going to be one of those guys

KBB wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:I did no such thing.

My original statement was that most of Pac's fanboys were fine with him fighting Rios and Algieri.

I stand by that.

But I do allow that there were some here who like boxing first who were as outraged as they should have been.

Berto just beat Josecito Lopez. That is as legit as anything Fury has ever done and he didn't have to foul to get his KO like Fury did Cunningham.

And name one clear cut, none controversial win by Rios or Algieri that is better than said KO by Berto. I'll wait.

As to Wlad, I am not even going to bother. If you follow the sport like you say you do then you can name the 4 or 5 easily.

Talk about going out with a whimper. Time for you to make yet another fake account I guess.

Dude please keep my name out of your mouth, I've told you time and time again that I have 1 other account that I used to use. The problem with idiotic retards such as yourself is a very low level of reading comprehension.

Kool and I are two different individuals who just so happens to not buy into your I Hate Floyd campaign and because we agree your dumb ass think we are one in the same of which we're not.

I could just as well label you Bnovelist because you act and post the same garbage he does.

While we're waiting on him/you/whatever to provide the "fistful of guys" Wlad's avoided, you can provide a list of posts of mine that would equate to me hating Floyd, or ANY similarities to me and bnov. But just like him/you/whatever you won't be able to either because it doesn't exist.

Have a good one

crusader wrote:His two impressive wins since the loss to Karass? Chambers isn't even in BoxRec's top 220, hadn't fought in over a year, and in that fight was stopped in four rounds by Eddie Gomez. Quiet a stretch to call Berto's win over him impressive.

As for Lopez, he's lost to every top 10 fighter he's faced barring Ortiz, and shortly before facing Berto he was dropped by faded Mike Arnaoutis and generally had quite a tough time. Considering Berto is 3-3 in his last 6, has only 2 wins in the last 4 years, and was stopped 3 fights ago by Karass, I don't think wins over Chambers and Lopez should put him near a Mayweather fight, regardless of who Pacquiao fought.

Point taken. Take out the word impressive. The point is that I am not trying to hype Berto as a top opponent. Read the rest of what I had to say.