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Like a boss will agree to disagree.

What ? Rating BJ Flores as some legit win at 195 ? What next on here rating Greeny's win over Dominguez as something special.

omg!

what is wrong with u people?

u guys really need help, lol.

DA GOOSE wrote:bogan whisperer I have not watched a Green fight live since Tarver. Detract from his achievements... his biggest achievements were winning a world title against a guy who wouldn't fight back and retiring without making a single defence. Oh and beating a well past it RJJ(possibly using loaded gloves) hardly a great list of achievements. Though he has made a lot of money off Anthony Mundines name so that's an achievement I suppose.

You forgot to mention fighting for a world title after only 16 fights and completely embarrassing the guy. Then winning the wbc interum by demolishing lucas in five long before Mundine.

Only two Australian's have won recognised world belts above super middleweight, Danny Green (WBA) and Jeff Harding (WBC), and both dethroned the reigning champions.

By contrast Anthony Mundine has never won a recognised world belt by defeating the reigning champion.

bogan whisperer wrote:Only two Australian's have won recognised world belts above super middleweight, Danny Green (WBA) and Jeff Harding (WBC), and both dethroned the reigning champions.

By contrast Anthony Mundine has never won a recognised world belt by defeating the reigning champion.

Mundine 1 v Green 0

bogan whisperer wrote:Only two Australian's have won recognised world belts above super middleweight, Danny Green (WBA) and Jeff Harding (WBC), and both dethroned the reigning champions.

By contrast Anthony Mundine has never won a recognised world belt by defeating the reigning champion.

In contrast Stipe Drews won a vacant WBA title after Branco defeated Siaca for an Interim WBA
Stipe Drews was never regarded a legitimate champion. Danny Green took an easier option when the elite LHW weren't interested in the WBA title, Danny Greens WBA title can be classed as an interim and is no better than Mundines regular belts

scottearley123456 wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:bogan whisperer I have not watched a Green fight live since Tarver. Detract from his achievements... his biggest achievements were winning a world title against a guy who wouldn't fight back and retiring without making a single defence. Oh and beating a well past it RJJ(possibly using loaded gloves) hardly a great list of achievements. Though he has made a lot of money off Anthony Mundines name so that's an achievement I suppose.

You forgot to mention fighting for a world title after only 16 fights and completely embarrassing the guy. Then winning the wbc interum by demolishing lucas in five long before Mundine.

The Lucas fight IMO was his best win(go to Daily Motion and watch Lucas-Beyer.Lucas was robbed) duly noted but technically it was only an interim title like Mundines titles. But yes impressive wins a shame he headbutted Beyer opening up a pre-existing cut or he would of been the WBC SMW champion.

bogan whisperer wrote:Only two Australian's have won recognised world belts above super middleweight, Danny Green (WBA) and Jeff Harding (WBC), and both dethroned the reigning champions.

By contrast Anthony Mundine has never won a recognised world belt by defeating the reigning champion.

Sven Ottke was the reigning WBA super middleweight champion he wisely retired without giving Mundine a rematch so Mundine was in fact the fully fledged world champion when he lost the WBA title to Manny Siaca if you check the the international boxing hall of fame Mundine will be there as a world champion at Super Middle if you check if Greens WBC interim Super middleweight title qualifies him as a legit world champ at that weight you'll be disappointed because interim world titles don't qualify neither does the IBO so if we are talking world title's green has held one legit world title and he didn't defend it once...........So the truth is they have both been world champion's..........it was out of Mundines control what Ottke did as for beating the reigning world champion Green beat one of the worst world champion's in the history of the light heavyweight division what was that Croation blokes name he was scarred to let one go [ a punch ] he should have been booked for loitering.
and the truth is if Green beat both Klitschko's and ten Roy Jones that will never change the fact that Mundine schooled him for 12 round's

GhostBoxing15 wrote:

bogan whisperer wrote:Only two Australian's have won recognised world belts above super middleweight, Danny Green (WBA) and Jeff Harding (WBC), and both dethroned the reigning champions.

By contrast Anthony Mundine has never won a recognised world belt by defeating the reigning champion.

In contrast Stipe Drews won a vacant WBA title after Branco defeated Siaca for an Interim WBA
Stipe Drews was never regarded a legitimate champion. Danny Green took an easier option when the elite LHW weren't interested in the WBA title, Danny Greens WBA title can be classed as an interim and is no better than Mundines regular belts

These are interesting comments and shed a lot more light on Green farcical WBA title win over Drews who did not engage at all and never fought again

Kelandbeave wrote:

GhostBoxing15 wrote:

bogan whisperer wrote:Only two Australian's have won recognised world belts above super middleweight, Danny Green (WBA) and Jeff Harding (WBC), and both dethroned the reigning champions.

By contrast Anthony Mundine has never won a recognised world belt by defeating the reigning champion.

In contrast Stipe Drews won a vacant WBA title after Branco defeated Siaca for an Interim WBA
Stipe Drews was never regarded a legitimate champion. Danny Green took an easier option when the elite LHW weren't interested in the WBA title, Danny Greens WBA title can be classed as an interim and is no better than Mundines regular belts

These are interesting comments and shed a lot more light on Green farcical WBA title win over Drews who did not engage at all and never fought again

Green humbled and retired the reigning WBA champion taking his title in the process. They are the facts whether they suit your agenda or not.

Kelandbeave wrote:

GhostBoxing15 wrote:

bogan whisperer wrote:Only two Australian's have won recognised world belts above super middleweight, Danny Green (WBA) and Jeff Harding (WBC), and both dethroned the reigning champions.

By contrast Anthony Mundine has never won a recognised world belt by defeating the reigning champion.

In contrast Stipe Drews won a vacant WBA title after Branco defeated Siaca for an Interim WBA
Stipe Drews was never regarded a legitimate champion. Danny Green took an easier option when the elite LHW weren't interested in the WBA title, Danny Greens WBA title can be classed as an interim and is no better than Mundines regular belts

These are interesting comments and shed a lot more light on Green farcical WBA title win over Drews who did not engage at all and never fought again

Yeah a pathetic performance by Drews a lot of people were suss after that victory suggesting money and bikers were involved. As pathetic as Drews effort was at least he attempted to defend his title. He didn't talk tough like this and then have a epiphany and cry.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/exfact ... 44191.html

Next minute.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-03-25/t ... er/1082650

Who do you think Green's next opponent will be in December? A blown up LHW with a padded record fighting at least 10lbs above his normal weightclass I suspect. The past is usually a good indication of future behaviour.

Who do you think Green's next opponent will be in December? A blown up LHW with a padded record fighting at least 10lbs above his normal weightclass I suspect. The past is usually a good indication of future behaviour.[/quote]

Agreed, no doubt it will be someone in their late 30's or early 40's.

MidniteProwler wrote: Who do you think Green's next opponent will be in December? A blown up LHW with a padded record fighting at least 10lbs above his normal weightclass I suspect. The past is usually a good indication of future behaviour.

Agreed, no doubt it will be someone in their late 30's or early 40's.[/quote]

Yes he will probably fight someone up to 10 years younger than himself. But he will likely make up for what he lacks in the way of youth with his wealth of experience.

He will probably fight someone like Alfonso Gomez at 185lb and build it up as fighting "a big name in the States" like he did with the Santiago pr fight build up.

Francis75 wrote:He will probably fight someone like Alfonso Gomez at 185lb and build it up as fighting "a big name in the States" like he did with the Santiago pr fight build up.

Do you think it will be suspicious like many people thought the Drews fight was in the below thread Francis?

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=74696

Boxing forums have always been a home for imaginations gone mad. Like someone recently claiming Sam Soliman was pretending his knee was injured whilst someone took the world title he'd worked his whole life to win, off him

bogan whisperer wrote:Boxing forums have always been a home for imaginations gone mad. Like someone recently claiming Sam Soliman was pretending his knee was injured whilst someone took the world title he'd worked his whole life to win, off him

Hey stranger things have happened in boxing. Many people thought the Green-Briggs fight was a dive(even Danny). But we found out the next day watching the punch in super slow motion it was a legit punch to the soft part of the skull.

DA GOOSE wrote:

bogan whisperer wrote:Boxing forums have always been a home for imaginations gone mad. Like someone recently claiming Sam Soliman was pretending his knee was injured whilst someone took the world title he'd worked his whole life to win, off him

Hey stranger things have happened in boxing. Many people thought the Green-Briggs fight was a dive(even Danny). But we found out the next day watching the punch in super slow motion it was a legit punch to the soft part of the skull.

The most reliable source of information is the record book. Not nameless people making stuff up on boxing forums that suits their biased agendas.

DA GOOSE wrote:

Francis75 wrote:He will probably fight someone like Alfonso Gomez at 185lb and build it up as fighting "a big name in the States" like he did with the Santiago pr fight build up.

Do you think it will be suspicious like many people thought the Drews fight was in the below thread Francis?

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=74696

Any boxing fan who saw that fight would have to admit at the very least that Drews could have and should have done more to retain his belt. Very suspicious indeed.

Francis75 wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:

Francis75 wrote:He will probably fight someone like Alfonso Gomez at 185lb and build it up as fighting "a big name in the States" like he did with the Santiago pr fight build up.

Do you think it will be suspicious like many people thought the Drews fight was in the below thread Francis?

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=74696

Any boxing fan who saw that fight would have to admit at the very least that Drews could have and should have done more to retain his belt. Very suspicious indeed.

Many world champions were knocked out in title fights. Some in the very early rounds. Do you think they are all suspicious losses? Should they have all done more to retain their belts? Did they all take dives? I await your detailed synopsis...

bogan whisperer wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:

bogan whisperer wrote:Boxing forums have always been a home for imaginations gone mad. Like someone recently claiming Sam Soliman was pretending his knee was injured whilst someone took the world title he'd worked his whole life to win, off him

Hey stranger things have happened in boxing. Many people thought the Green-Briggs fight was a dive(even Danny). But we found out the next day watching the punch in super slow motion it was a legit punch to the soft part of the skull.

The most reliable source of information is the record book. Not nameless people making stuff up on boxing forums that suits their biased agendas.

Yes the record books say Green KO Briggs 29 seconds in round 1. The fact 100's and 1000's worth of dollars were bet on a1st round KO is not suspicious at all. . As for making stuff up to suit agendas what would saying you were beaten fair and square for 2 years then saying you were a dehydrated ghost be classified as mate?
Any way regarding Greens next opponent Im willing to bet he will be (a) obscure and unknown by almost all boxing fans and (b)forced to fight outside his regular weight range by fighting at least 10lbs lighter or heavier than what he normally fights at. Lets see if Im on the money.

DA GOOSE wrote:

bogan whisperer wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:
Hey stranger things have happened in boxing. Many people thought the Green-Briggs fight was a dive(even Danny). But we found out the next day watching the punch in super slow motion it was a legit punch to the soft part of the skull.

The most reliable source of information is the record book. Not nameless people making stuff up on boxing forums that suits their biased agendas.

Yes the record books say Green KO Briggs 29 seconds in round 1. The fact 100's and 1000's worth of dollars were bet on a1st round KO is not suspicious at all. . As for making stuff up to suit agendas what would saying you were beaten fair and square for 2 years then saying you were a dehydrated ghost be classified as mate?
Any way regarding Greens next opponent Im willing to bet he will be (a) obscure and unknown by almost all boxing fans and (b)forced to fight outside his regular weight range by fighting at least 10lbs lighter or heavier than what he normally fights at. Lets see if Im on the money.

You were the guy who claimed Soliman was pretending to be injured. Enough said

bogan whisperer wrote:

Francis75 wrote:
Many world champions were knocked out in title fights. Some in the very early rounds. Do you think they are all suspicious losses? Should they have all done more to retain their belts? Did they all take dives? I await your detailed synopsis...

Thats called going out on your shield, something Drews didn't do.

Francis75 wrote:

bogan whisperer wrote:

Francis75 wrote:
Many world champions were knocked out in title fights. Some in the very early rounds. Do you think they are all suspicious losses? Should they have all done more to retain their belts? Did they all take dives? I await your detailed synopsis...

Thats called going out on your shield, something Drews didn't do.

If Green had knocked Drews out early you would be claiming Drews took a dive. It's all about agenda with someone as habitually negative as you