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Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 05:46
by freddydoesdallas
Benelio wrote:the_doctor wrote:
Can we just dispel this myth about Fury being a genuine switch-hitter? Have we all forgotten that the ref actually had to stop the Chisora rematch part way through because Fury wasn't throwing the jab correctly?
Not true. Chisora's corner pulled him out.
I think he means he had to stop it to tell Fury to punch properly during the fight
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 05:48
by SteveDow
The more I think about this from a purely objective perspective, taking out all of the hype and chat Fury has been giving about how he's going to make Klitschko look silly and how he's going to KO him and taking away the patriotic angle, Fury faces a task of truly epic proportions here.
He's fighting a guy away from home who is better technically than him in almost all areas, has significantly more power than him, has a chin which is no worse than his and has bags more experience. Let's face it, if Tyson wins this it'd be one of the biggest upsets in the sport in a long while. I think the only real way anyone can beat Klitschko now is to stop him. He won't be outboxed by Fury that's for sure and even if he is Fury would have to be utterly dominant in my view to get the decision (which seems a very remote possibility). Fury also is not a big puncher and I'd be amazed if he could take Wlad out with one shot. Haye hit Wlad with a couple of huge shots in their fight and never had Wlad in any real trouble. Does Fury hit harder than Haye? No chance in my view. Added to the fact that Fury himself hardly has a great defence or chin. It's almost impossible to see Wlad not landing numerous big shots himself.
I actually think the 1/4 the bookies are offering on a Wlad win is pretty fair. If Fury wasn't British I'm pretty sure Wlad would be more like 1/8.
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 06:20
by Counter-puncher
Pretty sure haye didn't land any 'huge' shots on wlad. Clipped him a couple of times, maybe
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 06:28
by Boxerbeetle
freddydoesdallas wrote:Benelio wrote:the_doctor wrote:
Can we just dispel this myth about Fury being a genuine switch-hitter? Have we all forgotten that the ref actually had to stop the Chisora rematch part way through because Fury wasn't throwing the jab correctly?
Not true. Chisora's corner pulled him out.
I think he means he had to stop it to tell Fury to punch properly during the fight
Yep I remember that clearly. No way does Fury last more than 3 rounds with Wlad if he tries to box southpaw - he'll be even more wide open for Wlad's big right hand than usual.
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 06:36
by SteveDow
Counter-puncher wrote:Pretty sure haye didn't land any 'huge' shots on wlad. Clipped him a couple of times, maybe
Look at the shot he landed in the 12th round.
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 19:17
by wesshaw1985
Hughie Fury has had another opponent pull out on him.
Get a call into Bakhtov, Kreiskott, Saglam, Airich, Mazikin, Tom Dallas or Sidon, somebody/anybody...
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 23:34
by Taansend
In case anyone is interested the percentage results of the poll only adds up to 99%.
Pete Tong, mate.
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 23:39
by macaca
Taansend wrote:In case anyone is interested the percentage results of the poll only adds up to 99%.
Pete Tong, mate.
Fixed it
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 08:20
by wesshaw1985
Well according to the poll its going to be a Klitschko stoppage, 10/11 with Paddy Power.
I might put £110 on, get £210 back. Shame because I want Fury to win, just can't see it happening.
Anybody else having a punt?
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 08:32
by MightyWarrior
Amazed to read the Box Monthly poll where a lot of people think Fury is going to win, or give him a great chance. Seems to be a strange case of collective mass delusion in the Brit fight game.
Surely Fury has no chance here. Not only is he stepping up into genuine world class for the first time, he's attempting to do so in the champions home town, against a man who's actually had more world title fights than Fury has had actual fights. That's a sobering thought right there.
I doubt Tyson actually believes he can win, and if he does, I reckon that will evaporate as the ring walk moment arrives ...even if his nerves hold up, when he gets hit for the first time by a genuine heavyweight puncher I think he's in for a shocking realization: he's miles out of his depth here.
I think Wlad is going to bounce him off the canvas several times for an early and brutal KO.
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 09:00
by Boxerbeetle
MightyWarrior wrote:Amazed to read the Box Monthly poll where a lot of people think Fury is going to win, or give him a great chance. Seems to be a strange case of collective mass delusion in the Brit fight game.
Surely Fury has no chance here. Not only is he stepping up into genuine world class for the first time, he's attempting to do so in the champions home town, against a man who's actually had more world title fights than Fury has had actual fights. That's a sobering thought right there.
I doubt Tyson actually believes he can win, and if he does, I reckon that will evaporate as the ring walk moment arrives ...even if his nerves hold up, when he gets hit for the first time by a genuine heavyweight puncher I think he's in for a shocking realization: he's miles out of his depth here.
I think Wlad is going to bounce him off the canvas several times for an early and brutal KO.
Well put, my thoughts exactly.
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 09:03
by freddydoesdallas
wesshaw1985 wrote:Well according to the poll its going to be a Klitschko stoppage, 10/11 with Paddy Power.
I might put £110 on, get £210 back. Shame because I want Fury to win, just can't see it happening.
Anybody else having a punt?
I'm on this, have about £100 odd (been building gradually on it) at prices between 11/10 and evs
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 09:24
by Dixonian
SteveDow wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:Pretty sure haye didn't land any 'huge' shots on wlad. Clipped him a couple of times, maybe
Look at the shot he landed in the 12th round.
Yeah he rocked him a couple of times. But Wlad shook them off pretty quickly.
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 09:29
by Dixonian
MightyWarrior wrote:Amazed to read the Box Monthly poll where a lot of people think Fury is going to win, or give him a great chance. Seems to be a strange case of collective mass delusion in the Brit fight game.
Surely Fury has no chance here. Not only is he stepping up into genuine world class for the first time, he's attempting to do so in the champions home town, against a man who's actually had more world title fights than Fury has had actual fights. That's a sobering thought right there.
I doubt Tyson actually believes he can win, and if he does, I reckon that will evaporate as the ring walk moment arrives ...even if his nerves hold up, when he gets hit for the first time by a genuine heavyweight puncher I think he's in for a shocking realization: he's miles out of his depth here.
I think Wlad is going to bounce him off the canvas several times for an early and brutal KO.
This kind of thing happens a lot. The British boxing commentariat get all patriotic, and whipped by the pre-fight hype. Perhaps because these people may know Fury, or have some association with him, they want to believe. And so they do. Must admit, I often find it difficult to separate my head from my heart when making predictions.
However, I think this will be a 6-round stoppage for Wlad.
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 09:51
by wesshaw1985
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 10:38
by MarkMcBurney
Sky and a couple of other news websites said Fury refused a hand shake?
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 10:56
by wesshaw1985
MarkMcBurney wrote:Sky and a couple of other news websites said Fury refused a hand shake?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebr7MM5juhY
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 11:06
by MarkMcBurney
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 14:19
by jtourettes
I'm shocked that 22% of people on this forum are predicting a Fury win, that's laughable.
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 14:25
by crusader
jtourettes wrote:I'm shocked that 22% of people on this forum are predicting a Fury win, that's laughable.
He's taller though and he beat Hammer and Chisora.
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 14:30
by freddydoesdallas
crusader wrote:jtourettes wrote:I'm shocked that 22% of people on this forum are predicting a Fury win, that's laughable.
He's taller though and he beat Hammer and Chisora.
Don't forget big bad john and marty rogan
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 14:54
by jtourettes
crusader wrote:
He's taller though and he beat Hammer and Chisora.
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Don't forget big bad john and marty rogan
Oh yeah, forgot about that pedigree.
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 14:55
by jamiem26
jtourettes wrote:I'm shocked that 22% of people on this forum are predicting a Fury win, that's laughable.
I know, surprised it's that low...
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 17:35
by Coco
I really hope Fury pulls it off, I'm sure he will go all out, I do feel though that Vlad will need to get old for him to pull off the upset though.
Re: Wladamir Klitschko (c) vs. Tyson Fury - November 28th 2015
Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 17:42
by wesshaw1985
Konstantin Airich has stepped up to face Hughie Fury at the last minute...