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Re: Hearing rumours that Haye is fighting on the Bad Intentions undercard!
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 16:32
by asdfjkl
Rexob wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Dixonian wrote:
You should know that he struggled to make the cruiserweight limit and that's a key reason why he went up to heavyweight. It's also the reason he was almost getting KO'ed by the likes of Lolenga Mock, yet at heavy took a few decent digs from the likes of Klitschko, Barrett and Chisora.
A lot of people repeat the line that Haye is just a blown up cruiser. He's not, he's a natural heavy who has fought in an era when super-heavies rule the roost.
Whether he'll be effective after his layoff and injury problems remains to be seen, however.
As far as I know it was the other way around, he struggled to become a heavyweight in the first place and
once he was he was very tactionally selecting his opponends and let's get real, what has Chisora for example achieved in his boxing carreer? Have you seen what he looks like today?
Barrett? Has he actually won ever since? Oh yea, one match against a 39 year old who hasn't won ever since either.
Great business in other words?
That's certainly correct, he's still great business actually, he got attention whenever he likes while the guy wasn't even in the ring at all.
Re: Hearing rumours that Haye is fighting on the Bad Intentions undercard!
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 16:53
by Dixonian
asdfjkl wrote:Dixonian wrote:
You should know that he struggled to make the cruiserweight limit and that's a key reason why he went up to heavyweight. It's also the reason he was almost getting KO'ed by the likes of Lolenga Mock, yet at heavy took a few decent digs from the likes of Klitschko, Barrett and Chisora.
A lot of people repeat the line that Haye is just a blown up cruiser. He's not, he's a natural heavy who has fought in an era when super-heavies rule the roost.
Whether he'll be effective after his layoff and injury problems remains to be seen, however.
As far as I know it was the other way around, he struggled to become a heavyweight in the first place and once he was he was very tactionally selecting his opponends and let's get real, what has Chisora for example achieved in his boxing carreer? Have you seen what he looks like today?
Barrett? Has he actually won ever since? Oh yea, one match against a 39 year old who hasn't won ever since either.
Chisora was rated at the time (took Vitali the distance, was robbed against Helenius) and was never the same after Haye finished with him. And don't forget Haye did win the WBA title against a guy who was 7ft 2 tall and his only defeat was against Wladimir Klitschko.
Btw, every boxer's manager chooses bouts tactically.
Re: Hearing rumours that Haye is fighting on the Bad Intentions undercard!
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 17:06
by asdfjkl
Dixonian wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Dixonian wrote:
You should know that he struggled to make the cruiserweight limit and that's a key reason why he went up to heavyweight. It's also the reason he was almost getting KO'ed by the likes of Lolenga Mock, yet at heavy took a few decent digs from the likes of Klitschko, Barrett and Chisora.
A lot of people repeat the line that Haye is just a blown up cruiser. He's not, he's a natural heavy who has fought in an era when super-heavies rule the roost.
Whether he'll be effective after his layoff and injury problems remains to be seen, however.
As far as I know it was the other way around, he struggled to become a heavyweight in the first place and once he was he was very tactionally selecting his opponends and let's get real, what has Chisora for example achieved in his boxing carreer? Have you seen what he looks like today?
Barrett? Has he actually won ever since? Oh yea, one match against a 39 year old who hasn't won ever since either.
Chisora was rated at the time (took Vitali the distance, was robbed against Helenius) and was never the same after Haye finished with him. And don't forget Haye did win the WBA title against a guy who was 7ft 2 tall and his only defeat was against Wladimir Klitschko.
Btw, every boxer's manager chooses bouts tactically.
7ft1, and that guy had pain in pretty much all his bones. The only thing Haye did was running around like a chicken and that's pretty much the only style he couldn't handle while beïng in pain with every move he made.
Next to that he was still winning and was actually robbed in that fight, the fight before somehow, when he fought a 45 year old, he was uncredebly lucky, because that 45 year old was robbed.
Re: Hearing rumours that Haye is fighting on the Bad Intentions undercard!
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 17:57
by Dan Dares
His heavyweight career was a bit of a joke really, even though he earned plenty. His best win was Chisora, a good scrap. Valuev and Klitschko were two really boring fights, and it wasn't very exciting watching him beat up old man Ruiz and rabbit in the headlights Harrison.
That said, I'd like to see him in with Wilder. I have a feeling that he'll break down in training and it'll be 'doctors have advised me to retire' again.
Bellew v Haye is one of the silliest things I've heard.
Re: Hearing rumours that Haye is fighting on the Bad Intentions undercard!
Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 19:14
by Counter-puncher
Dan Dares wrote:
That said, I'd like to see him in with Wilder. I have a feeling that he'll break down in training and it'll be 'doctors have advised me to retire' again.
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For the money involved, if he possibly could, I'm sure he would find a way to get into the ring for the opening bell.
People have managed to make a few quid over the years here or there turning up for fights it later transpired they didn't seem fully fit for. No need to name names, I'm sure.