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Pugilist-specialist wrote:

thechump wrote: Thats in sparring and that was about 12 months ago joshua made that comment,imagine now with 10oz gloves on in a proper fight joshua would blow him awayif i was anyone in the heavyweights now id fancy my chances against TYSON fury.

Joshua and Hearn have both said they are not ready for Tyson Fury:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/boxing/48116 ... ddie-Hearn

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... fight.html

Yep i know they say they arnt ready but,in my opinion, if the fight happened now AJ would win

thechump wrote:

G0mez wrote:

thechump wrote: I think joshua would blow him away with 4 rounds and i think whyte would blow fury away with 6,they are too powerful and too fast for fury's one paced style to handle

You think they'd both beat Wladimir Klitschko in Germany too, if they'd make light work of Fury ?

Styles make fights but id say joshua would go for it and k.o klitschko not do a fury (who slated haye for saying this and that before the klit fight then doin nothin durin the fight) and say your gonna k.o klitschko,not keave it in the judges hands,a demolition job,isnt this what he said? Then hardly throw a punch all fight. But then again some people on here are saying he is a defensive genius now off the back of that fight. I dont think whyte would beat klit cause he is smaller than wlad and he seems to intimidate smaller guys than him. But like i say styles make fights and whyte and joshua would be too raw for fury,its only my opinion tho so people dont get too upset lol

Your totally right - styles do make fights.

My major concern for Joshua though is the lack of head movement.

The head movement and feinting by Fury kept Wladimir guessing. Tyson also covered a lot of ground to the point where his feet were bleeding all over the changing room afterwards.

Joshua's offence is his defence - and that will take him a long way when his offence is so formidable - but there is a wealth of footage of him looking like a defensive novice, stopping punches with his face and getting buzzed (Mihai Nistor, Whyte ).

In a way it's positive to be talking how a pro novice will perform against long established and dominant opposition.

But there are a lot of areas to his game that still need to be worked on and polished. It can be done and Wladimir is the perfect example of a gold medal olympian with lots of rough edges as a professional, but an abundance of physical attributes who reached his full potential with the right guidance and approach.

From Joshua prospective i don,t think so that he delighted Fury because he need more time to polish his skills against Fury. And that the thing which Fury also know from start.

G0mez wrote:

thechump wrote:

G0mez wrote:
You think they'd both beat Wladimir Klitschko in Germany too, if they'd make light work of Fury ?

Styles make fights but id say joshua would go for it and k.o klitschko not do a fury (who slated haye for saying this and that before the klit fight then doin nothin durin the fight) and say your gonna k.o klitschko,not keave it in the judges hands,a demolition job,isnt this what he said? Then hardly throw a punch all fight. But then again some people on here are saying he is a defensive genius now off the back of that fight. I dont think whyte would beat klit cause he is smaller than wlad and he seems to intimidate smaller guys than him. But like i say styles make fights and whyte and joshua would be too raw for fury,its only my opinion tho so people dont get too upset lol

Your totally right - styles do make fights.

My major concern for Joshua though is the lack of head movement.

The head movement and feinting by Fury kept Wladimir guessing. Tyson also covered a lot of ground to the point where his feet were bleeding all over the changing room afterwards.

Joshua's offence is his defence - and that will take him a long way when his offence is so formidable - but there is a wealth of footage of him looking like a defensive novice, stopping punches with his face and getting buzzed (Mihai Nistor, Whyte ).

In a way it's positive to be talking how a pro novice will perform against long established and dominant opposition.

But there are a lot of areas to his game that still need to be worked on and polished. It can be done and Wladimir is the perfect example of a gold medal olympian with lots of rough edges as a professional, but an abundance of physical attributes who reached his full potential with the right guidance and approach.

Good post - is that really true about the feet bleeding - did he have new boots or something?

Yes, the movement stopped Wlad establishing that battering ram Jab, which is really the shot which sets everything up, or in many cases wins the fight on it's own almost. Once Wlad starts landing that at will, his opponents output declines, and their will crumbles.

Possible however that Joshua could outjab Wlad, he has a longer reach, and as we saw against Fury, Wlad did struggle fighting someone taller with a longer reach than him.

Joshua has a much more technically correct jab than Fury, in fact, that's true for all of the punches in his arsenal. Fury moves ok for a big man, but his punch placement, power and accuracy are well inferior to Joshua's.