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Tanzio, I get it.

You like Khan. So do I.

But, I see what I see with him.

His speed wasn't a problem for Swift.
His speed wasn't a problem for Peterson.

His power wasn't a problem for Alexander.
His problem wasn't a problem for Collazo.

Both Floyd and Manny are faster and hit harder than the above.

Floyd is exponentially more skilled than the lot of them.

Even now, Manny is lightyears ahead of those four athletically.

They both crush Amir.

Easily.

So why give him the payday?

koolkc107 wrote:Tanzio, I get it.

You like Khan. So do I.

But, I see what I see with him.

His speed wasn't a problem for Swift.
His speed wasn't a problem for Peterson.

His power wasn't a problem for Alexander.
His problem wasn't a problem for Collazo.

Both Floyd and Manny are faster and hit harder than the above.

Floyd is exponentially more skilled than the lot of them.

Even now, Manny is lightyears ahead of those four athletically.

They both crush Amir.

Easily.

So why give him the payday?

Actually, his speed was a significant problem for Danny. Khan was cutting him to ribbons early and took too many risks leading to Danny timing him.

Peterson also had plenty of problems with Khan. I thought that Lamont shaded him but it was anything but a clear victory. Many felt that Peterson got a homer gift.

True, his power was not a problem for Alexander but his skill and quickness were far too much for Devon and Collazo. He totally dominated both of them. Sometimes had far more trouble with Collazo.

Whether FMJ and Pac are superior to those above has zero to do with the conversation. Whether or not Khan would defeat either is also not the point. Khan posed too great a threat to both Pac and FMJ to give a shot over Ramming Speed III and Berto. That is the point because a Khan fight for either would be a far bigger event.

But it isn't just Khan that they have both avoided in their final years. There is a significant list of young, hungry lions who are just as deserving as but are greater threats than the opponents that they have chosen, including each other.

I'd pick kan over Manny.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'd pick kan over Manny.

I wouldn't, I think Manny would hit and hurt him way too many times. Pacman isn't what he was, but he's still got too much for Khan.

Tanzio wrote:Khan is just one of the boxers who have been considered too high risk v reward by FMJ and Pac. That is why they have chosen the opponents that they have for years, including a less than WWE level, choreographed waltz together.

It is not just about whether they could win, it also involves how much damage they will take securing the victory.

Btw, I have never begrudged either their business decisions. In fact, I have often complimented FMJ's business acumen. He has had a spectacularly successful career in a brutal sport and he has come through it in relatively great health.

My problem is with fanboys like the two of you who refuse to face the reality of his true genius, and the limits of his legacy.

See this is what I mean about exposing your BS, first you claim they (Manny and Floyd were being risk adverse concerning fighting Khan) then you claimed you didn't say it (I can post all of this if you just go back a few pages) and here you are now reclaiming what you stated first but said you never said it.

You are full of Sh*t and a retard to boot, and just because you say something doesn't mean it it so. You talk about pure conjecture when your BS is so BS that none of the other posters dare to even remotely agree with you suggesting Manny and Floyd were afraid to face a bum like Khan who has no punching power, the worse chin in the sport and not able to counterpunch and has a flawed defense.

Get lost dumb a$$

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'd pick kan over Manny.

I wouldn't, I think Manny would hit and hurt him way too many times. Pacman isn't what he was, but he's still got too much for Khan.

I hope you're right. While never a Manny fan, I can't bare the thought of atlas jumping on a soap box and taking credit for Bradley winning, as I expect him too.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Khan is just one of the boxers who have been considered too high risk v reward by FMJ and Pac. That is why they have chosen the opponents that they have for years, including a less than WWE level, choreographed waltz together.

It is not just about whether they could win, it also involves how much damage they will take securing the victory.

Btw, I have never begrudged either their business decisions. In fact, I have often complimented FMJ's business acumen. He has had a spectacularly successful career in a brutal sport and he has come through it in relatively great health.

My problem is with fanboys like the two of you who refuse to face the reality of his true genius, and the limits of his legacy.

See this is what I mean about exposing your BS, first you claim they (Manny and Floyd were being risk adverse concerning fighting Khan) then you claimed you didn't say it (I can post all of this if you just go back a few pages) and here you are now reclaiming what you stated first but said you never said it.

You are full of Sh*t and a retard to boot, and just because you say something doesn't mean it it so. You talk about pure conjecture when your BS is so BS that none of the other posters dare to even remotely agree with you suggesting Manny and Floyd were afraid to face a bum like Khan who has no punching power, the worse chin in the sport and not able to counterpunch and has a flawed defense.

Get lost dumb a$$

The only one that will be getting lost (again) is you turB.

You lie about me. You make false accusations about me. You misrepresent what I have posted. But, that is all understandable since you lack the intellect to actually grasp what I am saying.

Never have I posted that either Pac or FMJ are "afraid to face a bum like Khan." Of course, the problem is that you lack the capacity to understand that risk aversion is not equivalent to fear, and that the ability to defeat an opponent does not eliminate the risk of actually facing that opponent.

This is where, if I were you, turB, I would accuse you of trolling me. But, as I have stated before, I am not the ignorant little bitch that you have consistently demonstrated yourself to be. You are Floydiot in the most zombie degree, turB.

FMJ chose the less risky road for a number of years. That strategy served him well and I congratulate him.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'd pick kan over Manny.

I wouldn't, I think Manny would hit and hurt him way too many times. Pacman isn't what he was, but he's still got too much for Khan.

X2

I hate Khan with a passion, but even so don't think he sees the final round vs Pac. After a few close rounds Floyd would have clowned him big time.
He is an outstanding boxer for a few rounds, but that's it unless it is a guy that fits his style perfectly, and isn't a big puncher. He has avoided Thurman, Spence, Porter, even Guerrero etc. I honestly think Berto has a legitimate shot to KO Khan. Khan turned down Provo too. He only wanted Floyd or Pac to cash out and retire. Since he didn't get them he will fight Canelo to cash out and retire. He doesn't want to fight the best, only the biggest money fight.Time will tell if I am right or not. He won't beat Canelo. UD or KO, Canelo doesn't lose decisions, and Khan isn't Mayweather.

Tanzio wrote:The only one that will be getting lost (again) is you turB. You lie about me. You make false accusations about me. You misrepresent what I have posted. But, that is all understandable since you lack the intellect to actually grasp what I am saying.

Never have I posted that either Pac or FMJ are "afraid to face a bum like Khan." Of course, the problem is that you lack the capacity to understand that risk aversion is not equivalent to fear, and that the ability to defeat an opponent does not eliminate the risk of actually facing that opponent.

This is where, if I were you, turB, I would accuse you of trolling me. But, as I have stated before, I am not the ignorant little bitch that you have consistently demonstrated yourself to be. You are Floydiot in the most zombie degree, turB.

FMJ chose the less risky road for a number of years. That strategy served him well and I congratulate him.

No one needs to lie about a little Pug like you, you are a piss ant and a little boy in my eyes and one that consistently lies and spews venomous BS about fighters just because you dislike them. Here you are again claiming Floyd avoided risk, the only person he didn't face that he probably could've is cheating/loaded brick gloved Margarito but I wouldn't dare call that a duck since he fought Baldo and got the Lineal strap.

This constant repeating of falsities by animated cartoonish characters such as yourself leaves everyone believing that you are mentally retarded, that much is very apparent.

Risk aversion does equal duck to everyone on this forum except you because instead of having the b@ll$ to say "I don't like this guy and he did duck this guy" you soft-shoe around and skirt the issue instead of being a man head on and saying outright what you think which is why to me you are a little boy.

That's difference with me and you, I have huge f*cking cohones and I'll tell it to your daddy how i feel about whatever because I really gives a good God damn about what anyone thinks or say about me.

Khan is no risk whatsoever but only in your mind you somehow fathom he is and was avoided as such a risk because Manny and Floyd were somehow afraid that he wasn't worth risking losing to, one of the funniest things I've read on here but I should've expected as much from a dumb and b@ll-less idiot like you.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:The only one that will be getting lost (again) is you turB. You lie about me. You make false accusations about me. You misrepresent what I have posted. But, that is all understandable since you lack the intellect to actually grasp what I am saying.

Never have I posted that either Pac or FMJ are "afraid to face a bum like Khan." Of course, the problem is that you lack the capacity to understand that risk aversion is not equivalent to fear, and that the ability to defeat an opponent does not eliminate the risk of actually facing that opponent.

This is where, if I were you, turB, I would accuse you of trolling me. But, as I have stated before, I am not the ignorant little bitch that you have consistently demonstrated yourself to be. You are Floydiot in the most zombie degree, turB.

FMJ chose the less risky road for a number of years. That strategy served him well and I congratulate him.

No one needs to lie about a little Pug like you, you are a piss ant and a little boy in my eyes and one that consistently lies and spews venomous BS about fighters just because you dislike them. Here you are again claiming Floyd avoided risk, the only person he didn't face that he probably could've is cheating/loaded brick gloved Margarito but I wouldn't dare call that a duck since he fought Baldo and got the Lineal strap.

This constant repeating of falsities by animated cartoonish characters such as yourself leaves everyone believing that you are mentally retarded, that much is very apparent.

Risk aversion does equal duck to everyone on this forum except you because instead of having the b@ll$ to say "I don't like this guy and he did duck this guy" you soft-shoe around and skirt the issue instead of being a man head on and saying outright what you think which is why to me you are a little boy.

That's difference with me and you, I have huge f*cking cohones and I'll tell it to your daddy how i feel about whatever because I really gives a good God damn about what anyone thinks or say about me.

Khan is no risk whatsoever but only in your mind you somehow fathom he is and was avoided as such a risk because Manny and Floyd were somehow afraid that he wasn't worth risking losing to, one of the funniest things I've read on here but I should've expected as much from a dumb and b@ll-less idiot like you.

You are a Floydiot, turB.

I don't hate FMJ or any other boxer. He assessed risk v reward and often chose the less risky road, IMO. It was a spectacularly successful career in a very dangerous industry and he came out of it relatively healthy.

You have a problem with a little thing called reality.

Tanzio wrote: Amir Khan always comes to fight. Can you remember a Khan fight over the last eight years (back to Prescott) that was not entertaining? Khan is an excellent boxer who attacks and takes unnecessary risks at times. He has outboxed some fine boxers. He has been in more than one classic fight. In his two uncontroversial losses he was stopped spectacularly. Amir's chin is a significant source of the popularity of his fights. Everyone knows that Khan can be made to do The Hitman Shuffle at the top level.

Khan's fans are less vocal than his haters and detractors. Khan is an arrogant, loudmouthed Muslim who projectile vomits pretty much whatever is on his mind. He is Ali Jr. It was the hate that made Ali great. People wanted to see Ali lose because of his loud mouth. because he was African American, because he converted to Islam, because he refused to go to Vietnam. The haters were far more vocal than his fans. But Ali is loved and respected to this day around the globe. Long ago, the haters were drowned out.

I would estimate that Khan is followed by at least a billion people. IMO, Pac and FMJ avoided Khan because they felt threatened by his youth and speed, as well as his star power. I believe that his influence has lead to a wave of increased interest in boxing across the Islamic world. I'm sure that Khan has a significant hater-base among Muslims.

I was in favor of the first Maidana fight over giving Khan his shot at that time. The second Maidana fight was simply a low risk bridge to the Pac charade. Berto was a no risk bow out. FMJ's decision to avoid Khan was based on risk v reward including but obviously not limited to the economic reward. Khan would have been a better / more entertaining fight than pretty much any of FMJ's fights since ODLH.

Khan is simply quality entertainment and he has crossover star power.

I have never claimed that Khan would defeat FMJ or Pac. Khan would have been a better show and more successful than Berto or Ramming Speed III. I believe the choices were at least partially related to the risk factor.

Tanzio wrote:I have never claimed that Khan would defeat FMJ or Pac. Khan would have been a better show and more successful than Berto or Ramming Speed III. I believe the choices were at least partially related to the risk factor.

You're a total buffoon. You have a problem, a serious one at that; you're quick to point out everyone else's conjecture but yet you repeatedly (or is that RETARDEDLY) ignore your own buffoonery??

I find that total BS that you stated, you're ASSuming (making an ass of yourself but that's kind of an oxymoron to say since you are an A$$ anyway) that Khan would have been a better show.

You don't know that with certainty and if anything based on how well they fight I'd say that Bradley PROBABLY would've been the better choice and PROBABLY would've had a more successful showing.

Since you are under the impression that licking your own b@ll$/tooting your own horn somehow makes you superior to everyone on this forum because your CONJECTURE is somehow more relevant than everyone else's then there is nothing I can say to make you swallow your own pride (b@ll$, in this case) and stop patting yourself on the butt but please take notice that I used the word "PROBABLY" which leaves room for error whereas a Turd like you answer with absolute certainty of something you haven't got a clue about.

Go flush yourself, you've just been owned @$$Clown.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:I have never claimed that Khan would defeat FMJ or Pac. Khan would have been a better show and more successful than Berto or Ramming Speed III. I believe the choices were at least partially related to the risk factor.

You're a total buffoon. You have a problem, a serious one at that; you're quick to point out everyone else's conjecture but yet you repeatedly (or is that RETARDEDLY) ignore your own buffoonery??

I find that total BS that you stated, you're ASSuming (making an ass of yourself but that's kind of an oxymoron to say since you are an A$$ anyway) that Khan would have been a better show.

You don't know that with certainty and if anything based on how well they fight I'd say that Bradley PROBABLY would've been the better choice and PROBABLY would've had a more successful showing.

Since you are under the impression that licking your own b@ll$/tooting your own horn somehow makes you superior to everyone on this forum because your CONJECTURE is somehow more relevant than everyone else's then there is nothing I can say to make you swallow your own pride (b@ll$, in this case) and stop patting yourself on the butt but please take notice that I used the word "PROBABLY" which leaves room for error whereas a Turd like you answer with absolute certainty of something you haven't got a clue about.

Go flush yourself, you've just been owned @$$Clown.

Calm down turB. Unlike many others on this site, I neither want you to die or to be banned (for the ?time).

All of my opinions are just that. I probably use "IMO" more than anyone else on this site.

I am amused that you actually consider your nearly incoherent rants as insulting to me. You have anger issues turB. You have problems delineating between reality and all of that stuff that scares you so much residing betwixt your ears.

Usually dudes who find the need to describe how large their balls are have difficulty even locating them. Have yours dropped, turB?

I have no problem with your delusions about the dude in the poster on the ceiling above your bed, anymore than I have any problems with your fantasies about conspiracies and the omnipotent figments of your imagination.

I am convinced that you need therapy and that you are a pudendum, based on my experience with pudenda like you.

FMJ chose to avoid risk to his 0 and his health, IMO. The preponderance of evidence supports my position.

Jumping up and down like a freshly neutered monkey won't change that, turB.

Tanzio wrote:Calm down turB. Unlike many others on this site, I neither want you to die or to be banned (for the ?time).

All of my opinions are just that. I probably use "IMO" more than anyone else on this site.

I am amused that you actually consider your nearly incoherent rants as insulting to me. You have anger issues turB. You have problems delineating between reality and all of that stuff that scares you so much residing betwixt your ears.

Usually dudes who find the need to describe how large their balls are have difficulty even locating them. Have yours dropped, turB?

I have no problem with your delusions about the dude in the poster on the ceiling above your bed, anymore than I have any problems with your fantasies about conspiracies and the omnipotent figments of your imagination.

I am convinced that you need therapy and that you are a pudendum, based on my experience with pudenda like you.

FMJ chose to avoid risk to his 0 and his health, IMO. The preponderance of evidence supports my position.

Jumping up and down like a freshly neutered monkey won't change that, turB.

I'm very calm and actually have no anger towards the likes of wasted semen like yourself, it's great you say you're amused when you are actually insulted which is why you came back with a reply.

Yes you should use IMO but again you've already shown how retarded you are because here you are stating that FMJ chose to avoid risk with NO FACTS!!

You see it's one thing just to bring up conjecture, it's another thing to have an unqualified opinion (of your own) without facts because if you are going to boldly (or in your case, stupidly) state stuff like this then you need to quantify it with FACTS otherwise it is conjecture covered up with an "IMO" (which means d*ck on this forum).

Why don't you take a look at this to see if he really AVOIDED RISK as you so dumbfoundedly uttered before you jump up and stick both feet into that sh*thole that sits in the lower part of your face that you call a mouth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqQAcyKTpUA

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Calm down turB. Unlike many others on this site, I neither want you to die or to be banned (for the ?time).

All of my opinions are just that. I probably use "IMO" more than anyone else on this site.

I am amused that you actually consider your nearly incoherent rants as insulting to me. You have anger issues turB. You have problems delineating between reality and all of that stuff that scares you so much residing betwixt your ears.

Usually dudes who find the need to describe how large their balls are have difficulty even locating them. Have yours dropped, turB?

I have no problem with your delusions about the dude in the poster on the ceiling above your bed, anymore than I have any problems with your fantasies about conspiracies and the omnipotent figments of your imagination.

I am convinced that you need therapy and that you are a pudendum, based on my experience with pudenda like you.

FMJ chose to avoid risk to his 0 and his health, IMO. The preponderance of evidence supports my position.

Jumping up and down like a freshly neutered monkey won't change that, turB.

I'm very calm and actually have no anger towards the likes of wasted semen like yourself, it's great you say you're amused when you are actually insulted which is why you came back with a reply.

Yes you should use IMO but again you've already shown how retarded you are because here you are stating that FMJ chose to avoid risk with NO FACTS!!

You see it's one thing just to bring up conjecture, it's another thing to have an unqualified opinion (of your own) without facts because if you are going to boldly (or in your case, stupidly) state stuff like this then you need to quantify it with FACTS otherwise it is conjecture covered up with an "IMO" (which means d*ck on this forum).

Why don't you take a look at this to see if he really AVOIDED RISK as you so dumbfoundedly uttered before you jump up and stick both feet into that sh*thole that sits in the lower part of your face that you call a mouth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqQAcyKTpUA

Who did he fight for his swansong turB?

Why did he fight Maidana twice, turB?

Why did he do everything but swallow Pac's nutsac at the final presser before their all male dancing exhibition, turB?

Three fights, all risk averse, which does not mean there was no risk. He could have turned his ankle dancing with Pacman.

Tanzio wrote:Who did he fight for his swansong turB? Why did he fight Maidana twice, turB?

Why did he do everything but swallow Pac's nutsac at the final presser before their all male dancing exhibition, turB?

Three fights, all risk averse, which does not mean there was no risk. He could have turned his ankle dancing with Pacman.

1. You tell us

2. Rematched Maidana because a bunch of idiotic people who do not know the difference between BOXING and a guy using UFC-like tactics were under the impression that the fight was competitive and some even thought Marcos won it, so just to ensure that there was no doubt as he did before in another rematch he just wanted to prove that it could be done and even easier the 2nd time around.

3. He is always professional in the ring and praising his opponent after each fight, nothing new but of course only you think it is so that makes it right.

4. Again you cannot help your RETARDATION, that you are here with your OWN OPINION so it must be right that he was avoiding risk and that the following are not to be considered risky opponents:

Berto -Zero risk, less punching power than Khan

Manny-Zero risk, less punching power than Khan

So again, all that matters is your stupid opinion that Floyd and Manny choreographed their fight.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Who did he fight for his swansong turB? Why did he fight Maidana twice, turB?

Why did he do everything but swallow Pac's nutsac at the final presser before their all male dancing exhibition, turB?

Three fights, all risk averse, which does not mean there was no risk. He could have turned his ankle dancing with Pacman.

1. You tell us

2. Rematched Maidana because a bunch of idiotic people who do not know the difference between BOXING and a guy using UFC-like tactics were under the impression that the fight was competitive and some even thought Marcos won it, so just to ensure that there was no doubt as he did before in another rematch he just wanted to prove that it could be done and even easier the 2nd time around.

3. He is always professional in the ring and praising his opponent after each fight, nothing new but of course only you think it is so that makes it right.

4. Again you cannot help your RETARDATION, that you are here with your OWN OPINION so it must be right that he was avoiding risk and that the following are not to be considered risky opponents:

Berto -Zero risk, less punching power than Khan

Manny-Zero risk, less punching power than Khan

So again, all that matters is your stupid opinion that Floyd and Manny choreographed their fight.

The funny thing is that you know that what you stated in #2 is pure feces. Even you are not brain dead enough to believe that FMJ was pressured to rematch Maidana, IMO. But, I could wrong.

FMJ rematched Maidana because it was easy money and extremely low risk. It got one more easy W out of the way. It had nothing to do with proving anything to anyone.

Your reading comprehension is failing you yet again with #3, turB. I am talking about the final presser before the Pac fight, where he did everything but give Pac head. Sorry, turB, that is not characteristic of FMJ at final pressers.

Berto was just this side of an exhibition, which Pac v FMJ was (albeit an extremely poor one).

We can agree to disagree, but somehow I think that you will find a way to disagree with that in a characteristic way.

Tanzio wrote:The funny thing is that you know that what you stated in #2 is pure feces. Even you are not brain dead enough to believe that FMJ was pressured to rematch Maidana, IMO. But, I could wrong.

FMJ rematched Maidana because it was easy money and extremely low risk. It got one more easy W out of the way. It had nothing to do with proving anything to anyone.

Your reading comprehension is failing you yet again with #3, turB. I am talking about the final presser before the Pac fight, where he did everything but give Pac head. Sorry, turB, that is not characteristic of FMJ at final pressers.

Berto was just this side of an exhibition, which Pac v FMJ was (albeit an extremely poor one).

We can agree to disagree, but somehow I think that you will find a way to disagree with that in a characteristic way.

There's no end to your RETARDATION is it??

First you say this "Even you are not brain dead enough to believe that FMJ was pressured to rematch Maidana, IMO. But, I could wrong." Of which you finally admit you could (you left out the BE)be wrong but then you turn around in the very next sentence and go back to your same old Hateful and "I said it so it must be right" conjecture BS with this comment:

"FMJ rematched Maidana because it was easy money and extremely low risk"

Like I said, you are mentally retarded, that is just your opinion. Go look at how many people were expressing the need for the a rematch and at the end of the fight that somehow people were applauding MM but booing Floyd because they believed that MM won the fight.

Again, your claim that Floyd was doing everything but giving head before the Pac fight when he has always talked decently about most of his opponents before and after fights. I could waste time posting video after video to show you but you're such a Tool that you'd find a way to try and discredit that just as you do anything associated with Floyd.

Why don't you just come out and say that "I hate Floyd" so I'm going to say hateful things about him at every turn because he beat my hero" and everyone will understand why your Butthurtedness comes out whenever you mention his name.

Berto was a gimme as two friends hooking one another up (Floyd hooking him up moreso than the latter), Andre needed money to help feed his people in Haiti, Berto knew long before that he could not beat Mayweather so it's a win-win for both.

I see no harm in Floyd taking a lesser task at 38 years old vs fighters much younger, bigger and stronger than him in his last 6 fights (for the most part).

Of course you will always find a way to hate, that's just in your hateful nature and you are too pathetic to help yourself.

I'm done, no more about this, you can have the last word because we all know that you are a "Last Word Junkie".

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:The funny thing is that you know that what you stated in #2 is pure feces. Even you are not brain dead enough to believe that FMJ was pressured to rematch Maidana, IMO. But, I could wrong.

FMJ rematched Maidana because it was easy money and extremely low risk. It got one more easy W out of the way. It had nothing to do with proving anything to anyone.

Your reading comprehension is failing you yet again with #3, turB. I am talking about the final presser before the Pac fight, where he did everything but give Pac head. Sorry, turB, that is not characteristic of FMJ at final pressers.

Berto was just this side of an exhibition, which Pac v FMJ was (albeit an extremely poor one).

We can agree to disagree, but somehow I think that you will find a way to disagree with that in a characteristic way.

There's no end to your RETARDATION is it??

First you say this "Even you are not brain dead enough to believe that FMJ was pressured to rematch Maidana, IMO. But, I could wrong." Of which you finally admit you could (you left out the BE)be wrong but then you turn around in the very next sentence and go back to your same old Hateful and "I said it so it must be right" conjecture BS with this comment:

"FMJ rematched Maidana because it was easy money and extremely low risk"

Like I said, you are mentally retarded, that is just your opinion. Go look at how many people were expressing the need for the a rematch and at the end of the fight that somehow people were applauding MM but booing Floyd because they believed that MM won the fight.

Again, your claim that Floyd was doing everything but giving head before the Pac fight when he has always talked decently about most of his opponents before and after fights. I could waste time posting video after video to show you but you're such a Tool that you'd find a way to try and discredit that just as you do anything associated with Floyd.

Why don't you just come out and say that "I hate Floyd" so I'm going to say hateful things about him at every turn because he beat my hero" and everyone will understand why your Butthurtedness comes out whenever you mention his name.

Berto was a gimme as two friends hooking one another up (Floyd hooking him up moreso than the latter), Andre needed money to help feed his people in Haiti, Berto knew long before that he could not beat Mayweather so it's a win-win for both.

I see no harm in Floyd taking a lesser task at 38 years old vs fighters much younger, bigger and stronger than him in his last 6 fights (for the most part).

Of course you will always find a way to hate, that's just in your hateful nature and you are too pathetic to help yourself.

I'm done, no more about this, you can have the last word because we all know that you are a "Last Word Junkie".

It is all opinion, you pitiful, tortured Floydiot.

So, you admit FMJ took the easy road with Berto. But you rationalize his avoidance of risk because he was being charitable to a friend.

You also rationalize Maidana II because somehow FMJ was forced to take the less risky fight although you have argued ad vomitem that FMJ is the A Side of all A Sides and cannot be forced into anything.

Just go jelly up and offer your anal cavity to FMJ for eternity, you zombie.

You admit that he is risk averse, but that's ok with you. Guess what Pong brain? I have complimented FMJ over and over for years for his business acumen, which includes but is not limited to his prowess at avoiding risk. I have never expressed an opinion that if he fought the more risky opponents that he would be an underdog or that he would lose, one ant horsepower brain.

My opinion is based on the preponderance of evidence which you have agreed with and that you have illustrated clearly. But I am hateful in your opinion because I have the unmitigated gall to disagree with your all but braindead rationalizations.

I don't hate FMJ or any other boxer. I don't hate you or any other nearly vacuum brained Floydiot. I respect FMJ's accomplishments and recognize the strategy to achieve them and the limits of their scope.

I simply pity you.

Tanzio wrote:It is all opinion, you pitiful, tortured Floydiot.

So, you admit FMJ took the easy road with Berto. But you rationalize his avoidance of risk because he was being charitable to a friend.

You also rationalize Maidana II because somehow FMJ was forced to take the less risky fight although you have argued ad vomitem that FMJ is the A Side of all A Sides and cannot be forced into anything.

Just go jelly up and offer your anal cavity to FMJ for eternity, you zombie.

You admit that he is risk averse, but that's ok with you. Guess what Pong brain? I have complimented FMJ over and over for years for his business acumen, which includes but is not limited to his prowess at avoiding risk. I have never expressed an opinion that if he fought the more risky opponents that he would be an underdog or that he would lose, one ant horsepower brain.

My opinion is based on the preponderance of evidence which you have agreed with and that you have illustrated clearly. But I am hateful in your opinion because I have the unmitigated gall to disagree with your all but braindead rationalizations.

I don't hate FMJ or any other boxer. I don't hate you or any other nearly vacuum brained Floydiot. I respect FMJ's accomplishments and recognize the strategy to achieve them and the limits of their scope.

I simply pity you.

What evidence have you provided??

Where are the links of him avoiding these supposed "Risks" you continue to refer to??

Who are the risks he avoided?

Please provide your proof, otherwise stfu you foul-mouthed, idiotic vermin.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:It is all opinion, you pitiful, tortured Floydiot.

So, you admit FMJ took the easy road with Berto. But you rationalize his avoidance of risk because he was being charitable to a friend.

You also rationalize Maidana II because somehow FMJ was forced to take the less risky fight although you have argued ad vomitem that FMJ is the A Side of all A Sides and cannot be forced into anything.

Just go jelly up and offer your anal cavity to FMJ for eternity, you zombie.

You admit that he is risk averse, but that's ok with you. Guess what Pong brain? I have complimented FMJ over and over for years for his business acumen, which includes but is not limited to his prowess at avoiding risk. I have never expressed an opinion that if he fought the more risky opponents that he would be an underdog or that he would lose, one ant horsepower brain.

My opinion is based on the preponderance of evidence which you have agreed with and that you have illustrated clearly. But I am hateful in your opinion because I have the unmitigated gall to disagree with your all but braindead rationalizations.

I don't hate FMJ or any other boxer. I don't hate you or any other nearly vacuum brained Floydiot. I respect FMJ's accomplishments and recognize the strategy to achieve them and the limits of their scope.

I simply pity you.

What evidence have you provided??

Where are the links of him avoiding these supposed "Risks" you continue to refer to??

Who are the risks he avoided?

Please provide your proof, otherwise stfu you foul-mouthed, idiotic vermin.

Wait a minute, turB, you claimed that you were done with this subject and that you were granting me the last word.

The evidence is his 49-0 record, one chirp brain. Many of his choices avoided risk. You have agreed with me on at least two.

Are you going back on that now too, oh paranoid one?

Tanzio wrote:Wait a minute, turB, you claimed that you were done with this subject and that you were granting me the last word.

The evidence is his 49-0 record, one chirp brain. Many of his choices avoided risk. You have agreed with me on at least two.

Are you going back on that now too, oh paranoid one?

You provided no proof, just like I said, all you have is your worthless opinion.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Wait a minute, turB, you claimed that you were done with this subject and that you were granting me the last word.

The evidence is his 49-0 record, one chirp brain. Many of his choices avoided risk. You have agreed with me on at least two.

Are you going back on that now too, oh paranoid one?

You provided no proof, just like I said, all you have is your worthless opinion.

You mean that "worthless opinion" that you have illustrated clearly is accurate?

Even you have admitted that FMJ took a risk averse road in the end, turB. It's ok, lightning is no more likely to strike your solitary brain cell dead than it was before.

FMJ avoided risk. Khan was one of the risks he avoided.

Tanzio wrote:You mean that "worthless opinion" that you have illustrated clearly is accurate?

Even you have admitted that FMJ took a risk averse road in the end, turB. It's ok, lightning is no more likely to strike your solitary brain cell dead than it was before.

FMJ avoided risk. Khan was one of the risks he avoided.

https://www.audioblocks.com/stock-audio ... ffect.html

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:You mean that "worthless opinion" that you have illustrated clearly is accurate?

Even you have admitted that FMJ took a risk averse road in the end, turB. It's ok, lightning is no more likely to strike your solitary brain cell dead than it was before.

FMJ avoided risk. Khan was one of the risks he avoided.

https://www.audioblocks.com/stock-audio ... ffect.html

Thank you for flushing yourself turB. Or, is that a link to how The Bush Dynasty actually caused FMJ to choose the risk averse road?