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So many fights...Coggi vs Gonzalez
Oleydong vs Porpramook 2 (think Martinez vs Cintron, another that deserves a mention)
Lazarte vs Solis (both fights)

Julius Francis v Sinan Samil Sam was very fishy.

Julius couldn't wait to lose that one & he crumpled in an exaggarated heap from a body shop & got 'counted out'.

Was it not quite widely accepted (if not proven) that Margacheato had his gloves loaded in the Cotto win? Not the decision of the fight but the circumstances surrounding that fight were dodgy as fornicate!

Roberto Bolonti and his farcical fight with Jean Pascal.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

95gerog wrote:Wasn't Primo Carnera in numerous fixed/fishy bouts??

My dad use to tell me that max baer refused to take a dive vs carnera and proceeded to beat him around the ring.
Not sure how accurate this is.

I heard the same from my old man.

Keith I feel better about this now, I think we both say this is now a fact.

I watched Antwon Echols v Brian Baronet and that ended a bit unfairly; Baronet seemed to be bossing a close fight and was hit with a glancing shot, he ducked and topppled out of the ring on to and then through the media tables. The ring apron was maybe 5 or 6 inches wide! The referree seemed to start his count as soon as Baronet went through the ropes and he got to 20 just as he got back into the ring and was on his feet and rising. I'm not sure about how long an fghter gets to get back in the ring but it seemed a bit unfair on Baronet.

Boxing Prospect wrote:So many fights...Coggi vs Gonzalez
Oleydong vs Porpramook 2 (think Martinez vs Cintron, another that deserves a mention)
Lazarte vs Solis (both fights)

i didnt see ote wrong with oledong v porpramook 2. great fight if i remember correctly, but didnt think the scoring was hooky at the time.

I still have my doubts about De La Hoyas exit vs Hopkins. A terrible 'fight' right up till the 'knockout blow'. I've still not seen anyone pound the canvas like that instead of just getting up...

Emmseegee wrote:Hatton v Pacquiao.

Clear fix, Punch never even connected.

Hatton should have had a Oscar for that.

Tomasino wrote:I still have my doubts about De La Hoyas exit vs Hopkins. A terrible 'fight' right up till the 'knockout blow'. I've still not seen anyone pound the canvas like that instead of just getting up...

Mickey Ward knocked out Alfonso Sanchez with a single hook and Sanchez did something similar (from memory), Sanchez never fought again.

Tomasino wrote:I still have my doubts about De La Hoyas exit vs Hopkins. A terrible 'fight' right up till the 'knockout blow'. I've still not seen anyone pound the canvas like that instead of just getting up...

Yeah I thought that. It was too melodramatic. Oscar will certainly never get an Oscar for his acting....

What about Dirrell against AA. That seemed a bit OTT. All this 'where am I man?' Bollux!

reggaereggae wrote:

Tomasino wrote:I still have my doubts about De La Hoyas exit vs Hopkins. A terrible 'fight' right up till the 'knockout blow'. I've still not seen anyone pound the canvas like that instead of just getting up...

Yeah I thought that. It was too melodramatic. Oscar will certainly never get an Oscar for his acting....

Did the Hatton v Castillo finish look above board to you? I thought it was and some on CS claimed Castillo threw the bout.

reggaereggae wrote:

Tomasino wrote:I still have my doubts about De La Hoyas exit vs Hopkins. A terrible 'fight' right up till the 'knockout blow'. I've still not seen anyone pound the canvas like that instead of just getting up...

Yeah I thought that. It was too melodramatic. Oscar will certainly never get an Oscar for his acting....

Was there anything said about this at the time? I remember watching the fight and just thinking DLH got done by a good shot but I haven't watched it back.

palooka wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:

Tomasino wrote:I still have my doubts about De La Hoyas exit vs Hopkins. A terrible 'fight' right up till the 'knockout blow'. I've still not seen anyone pound the canvas like that instead of just getting up...

Yeah I thought that. It was too melodramatic. Oscar will certainly never get an Oscar for his acting....

Did the Hatton v Castillo finish look above board to you? I thought it was and some on CS claimed Castillo threw the bout.

Didn't he break 3 of his ribs with that? I remember there was a bit of a delay before Castillo took a knee but that's usually the case with body shots.

Stuarty30 wrote:

palooka wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:
Yeah I thought that. It was too melodramatic. Oscar will certainly never get an Oscar for his acting....

Did the Hatton v Castillo finish look above board to you? I thought it was and some on CS claimed Castillo threw the bout.

Didn't he break 3 of his ribs with that? I remember there was a bit of a delay before Castillo took a knee but that's usually the case with body shots.

I believe and have never heard otherwise that that win was 100% legitimate. The actual delay before Castillo dropped is especially convincing. It happens a lot with body shots, often takes half a second before it takes effect

Just watched the ending in O De La H - Hopkins fight and it's very odd. One the one hand, it looks like a well placed and quick body shot from a naturally bigger fighter.... But it also looks like an arm shot.... Oscar's initial reaction is convincing but all the rolling around and banging the canvas seems acted. Also Oscar goes on about it, when with the cornermen he mimics the punch as if to 'explain' what happened (as if no one saw.)

He doesn't actually seem that concerned or gutted by the result and is overly demonstrative. Then he goes into business' with Hopkins as well and jointly promotes him.

It's definitely a little fishy but I am not convinced of a conspiracy / set up. Maybe Oscar got hurt by a good shot and was a bit embarrassed so overacted to try and retain some 'dignity'. I think that's the most likely explanation.... His mind was possibly riddled with Coke and he was thinking about wearing women's underwear and hanging out with hookers... Who knows!

Stuarty30 wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:

Tomasino wrote:I still have my doubts about De La Hoyas exit vs Hopkins. A terrible 'fight' right up till the 'knockout blow'. I've still not seen anyone pound the canvas like that instead of just getting up...

Yeah I thought that. It was too melodramatic. Oscar will certainly never get an Oscar for his acting....

Was there anything said about this at the time? I remember watching the fight and just thinking DLH got done by a good shot but I haven't watched it back.

Chopped liver with Hopkins' sauce.

veriton wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:So many fights...Coggi vs Gonzalez
Oleydong vs Porpramook 2 (think Martinez vs Cintron, another that deserves a mention)
Lazarte vs Solis (both fights)

i didnt see ote wrong with oledong v porpramook 2. great fight if i remember correctly, but didnt think the scoring was hooky at the time.

Iirc Oleydong did his ankle and was down about 4 times in a round due to it...yet still escaped with a draw in a bout that he should have been stopped in....then again my memory sucks

also from memory he was down, but then was on the back foot and came on strong at the end. didnt the other guy do some press ups at the final bell? i thought oledong deserved it but it was close.

reggaereggae wrote:Just watched the ending in O De La H - Hopkins fight and it's very odd. One the one hand, it looks like a well placed and quick body shot from a naturally bigger fighter.... But it also looks like an arm shot.... Oscar's initial reaction is convincing but all the rolling around and banging the canvas seems acted. Also Oscar goes on about it, when with the cornermen he mimics the punch as if to 'explain' what happened (as if no one saw.)

He doesn't actually seem that concerned or gutted by the result and is overly demonstrative. Then he goes into business' with Hopkins as well and jointly promotes him.

It's definitely a little fishy but I am not convinced of a conspiracy / set up. Maybe Oscar got hurt by a good shot and was a bit embarrassed so overacted to try and retain some 'dignity'. I think that's the most likely explanation.... His mind was possibly riddled with Coke and he was thinking about wearing women's underwear and hanging out with hookers... Who knows!

You've covered all the details mate...it was a money fight and Hopkins toyed with him till the slap in the side that 'finished it'. Then they started what they hoped would be the biggest promotional company ever with Sugar Shane and Marco A B tagging along...it's all turned out well

I've just started The Years Of The Locust - Fat Rick seems a douche already.

Tyson vs McNeeley
fixed to end within the first 90 seconds

ttornado wrote:Tyson vs McNeeley
fixed to end within the first 90 seconds

I don't think the McNeeley fight needed to be fixed: McNeeley would have fallen over if Tyson had farted near him, that's how poor he was!

Tyson v Seldon; now that was fishy!

Londonirish wrote:

J wrote:crab vs squid very fishy!


in seriousness barnes (or was it walker I forget) vs Vincent was a daylight robbery.

I boxed on that Bill and remember thinking WTF

Didn't David Barnes was Boxing till i just looked him up.....

yes martin I remember you well! hope all is well with you mate, fully retired now or still in the game in some capacity mate?